Worst Leader your (RL) Country ever had?

[Arkinesia]

Hands down, no contest, James Buchanan.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

One person cannot, but a pool of a few hundred people making that much could probably do it

No they couldn't society isn't like that. When and why could some poor people from south London just build a school?

I thought we were talking about Africa, not London. There's no land in London on which to build a school, anyways.

[Solorni]

I thought it was the Affordable Care Act? As well.. tax cuts under Reagan are why the US debt is so high.
Since when is Quebec a city? And since when are Toronto & Montreal coastal cities?

A: Quebec City, in Quebec
B: If the sea level rises, so will the water level in river, like the St Lawrence which leads in to lake Ontario which those cities are on

I'm not sure if that is true since the St Lawrence feeds into the Ocean and not the other way around. Even if it were true that the water levels on Lake Ontario would rise... the city of Toronto for example is already a good metre or so above the water level since they have built into the water. I'm pretty sure they could easily prevent flooding by building up those areas.

[Arkinesia]

Ignoring foreign policy, he was solid.

He opened America's borders to the Third World with that bastard Ted Kennedy, who promised that America's ethnic composition would not change. They blatantly lied.

I bet the English colonists told the Massasoit that in the 17th century, too.

[Elepis]

No they couldn't society isn't like that. When and why could some poor people from south London just build a school?

I thought we were talking about Africa, not London. There's no land in London on which to build a school, anyways.

so they couldn't build a good school. How are they going to get an education and a job

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Well, then the inland cities will be huge and rich.

No because everyone will be reeling from the loss of the huge cities which will create anarchy (not the good type either)


It is like arguing with a dolphin!

It takes a lot more than a handful of flooded cities to create anarchy, m8.

[Sisterhood]

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[Elepis]

No because everyone will be reeling from the loss of the huge cities which will create anarchy (not the good type either)


It is like arguing with a dolphin!

It takes a lot more than a handful of flooded cities to create anarchy, m8.

Not a handful, hundreds, thousands. Imagine Nigeria's biggest and richest city goes under. The economy collapses, massive civil war. Then imagine that in Sierra Leon, Cameroon, Angola, Mozambique even Australia just ti name a few

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

I thought we were talking about Africa, not London. There's no land in London on which to build a school, anyways.

so they couldn't build a good school. How are they going to get an education and a job

The same way the western world created their civilization and got education and jobs. The bank lends some of them money to start business that mine and refine raw materials, the companies employ people, the people then buy those raw materials and use them to build a school, a school board is formed and teachers are hired. there we go, we've got companies giving people jobs and schools to educate people.

[Elepis]

A: Quebec City, in Quebec
B: If the sea level rises, so will the water level in river, like the St Lawrence which leads in to lake Ontario which those cities are on

I'm not sure if that is true since the St Lawrence feeds into the Ocean and not the other way around. Even if it were true that the water levels on Lake Ontario would rise... the city of Toronto for example is already a good metre or so above the water level since they have built into the water. I'm pretty sure they could easily prevent flooding by building up those areas.

so you think there will just be a big 6 meter wall of water where the St Lawrence meets the ocean? Also the water level will rise above 6 meters in rivers

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

It takes a lot more than a handful of flooded cities to create anarchy, m8.

Not a handful, hundreds, thousands. Imagine Nigeria's biggest and richest city goes under. The economy collapses, massive civil war. Then imagine that in Sierra Leon, Cameroon, Angola, Mozambique even Australia just ti name a few

All the countries you listed except Australia hardly even have an economy to begin with.

[Solorni]

so they couldn't build a good school. How are they going to get an education and a job

The same way the western world created their civilization and got education and jobs. The bank lends some of them money to start business that mine and refine raw materials, the companies employ people, the people then buy those raw materials and use them to build a school, a school board is formed and teachers are hired. there we go, we've got companies giving people jobs and schools to educate people.

I think you are putting the cart before the horse. Banks started when merchants with extra capital needed a way to put that capital into use. I don't buy the theory that banks came before the businesses but rather that business came before the bank since it is a natural extension of that process. Although of course the banks drove further growth.

[Louisistan]

Hitler, hands down!
Next up: Everyone from the Weimar Republic!

[Arkinesia]

Jimmy Carter nearly drove the country to the ground. The economy was terrible unemployment was bad. He was so bad that New York voted republican to get rid of him.

Are we talking about the same Jimmy Carter? The one who selected arguably the Fed's greatest chairman, the one who was the first to develop a successful counter-strike strategy against the Soviet Union, and the one who managed to actually start a turnaround for our economy and military after almost a decade in the doldrums for each? Let's not forget he was the first President to manage a nuclear reactor failure personally.

I don't know what Jimmy Carter you're talking about, but the real one did all of these things.

The real Carter lost the election because of a sleazy Italian organization. Not because of bad policies.

Obama - high unemployment rate, 17 trillion dollars in debt and rejected keystone pipeline which could have helped, immigration executive order which is highly unpopular.

These idiots make Busch look like an excellent leader

Obama has not rejected Keystone (that's the Senate you're thinking of) and unemployment itself is not high. Labor participation is sinking because of the baby boomers beginning to leave the workforce. We don't even know what the immigration executive order is. Are you telling me you came from the future?

[Elepis]

Not a handful, hundreds, thousands. Imagine Nigeria's biggest and richest city goes under. The economy collapses, massive civil war. Then imagine that in Sierra Leon, Cameroon, Angola, Mozambique even Australia just ti name a few

All the countries you listed except Australia hardly even have an economy to begin with.

so you want more MEDC's then New Zealand will collapse along side Belgium, the Netherlands, UK, Norway, Sweden, Qatar, Kuwait, Indonesia, Denmark, Ireland just to name some out of many

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

The same way the western world created their civilization and got education and jobs. The bank lends some of them money to start business that mine and refine raw materials, the companies employ people, the people then buy those raw materials and use them to build a school, a school board is formed and teachers are hired. there we go, we've got companies giving people jobs and schools to educate people.

I think you are putting the cart before the horse. Banks started when merchants with extra capital needed a way to put that capital into use. I don't buy the theory that banks came before the businesses but rather that business came before the bank since it is a natural extension of that process. Although of course the banks drove further growth.

The private bank was an extension of the early government-controlled treasuries, they both essentially did the same thing when loaning money.

[Elepis]

I think you are putting the cart before the horse. Banks started when merchants with extra capital needed a way to put that capital into use. I don't buy the theory that banks came before the businesses but rather that business came before the bank since it is a natural extension of that process. Although of course the banks drove further growth.

The private bank was an extension of the early government-controlled treasuries, they both essentially did the same thing when loaning money.

Learn history. The powerful Banks came about in the 15th century CE (AD). Businesses started in the 20th century BCE (BC).

[Brydog]

Nixon and Obama

Nixon for being a dickhole bastard.
Obama for the people he surrounded himself with and the stuff that he currently involved in.

[Kingdom of Viana]

Obama created obamacare (hence the name obviously) is responsible for a huge chunk of that debt, and he rejected keystone pipeline that could've helped.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2014/08/27/yes-obamacare-is-
cutting-the-deficit/]No, it's not.[/url]

Yes it is.

Keystone pipeline could have created more job opportunities, decrease the national debt, and improve our economy and now that it's rejected that debt will keep growing.

Oh well, Obamacare will be repealed and the pipeline will be built once our new senate majority takes over. Then we can put america back on the right track.
Could've helped what?

[Devvo Mate]

Anthony Eden, no question.

[Elepis]

Anthony Eden, no question.

over Thatcher?

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

All the countries you listed except Australia hardly even have an economy to begin with.

so you want more MEDC's then New Zealand will collapse along side Belgium, the Netherlands, UK, Norway, Sweden, Qatar, Kuwait, Indonesia, Denmark, Ireland just to name some out of many

Too bad

[Kingdom of Viana]

Nixon and Obama

Nixon for being a dickhole bastard.
Obama for the people he surrounded himself with and the stuff that he currently involved in.

Obama, I agree.

But you are out of your mind if you think Raegan was awful.

[Solorni]

I feel like Nixon is a really mixed bag. Yes, Watergate was terrible. But the outreach to China was amazing.

EDIT: Reagan was really terrible though... one of the worst Presidents of all time.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

The private bank was an extension of the early government-controlled treasuries, they both essentially did the same thing when loaning money.

Learn history. The powerful Banks came about in the 15th century CE (AD). Businesses started in the 20th century BCE (BC).

And governments loaning and lending money predate both