Worst Leader your (RL) Country ever had?

[Anglo-California]

Ron Paul would have saved us all. He would've made anime real.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Jimmy Carter nearly drove the country to the ground. The economy was terrible unemployment was bad. He was so bad that New York voted republican to get rid of him.

Obama - high unemployment rate, 17 trillion dollars in debt and rejected keystone pipeline which could have helped, immigration executive order which is highly unpopular.

These idiots make Busch look like an excellent leader

The Soviets didn't invade during Carter's term, so I think we were okay under him. Under Obama the unemployment rate's been falling, although attribution as to why...might not be good.

Maybe you will, the capitalist is more clever than the caveman.

So capitalists know how to do something other than whatever they want to enrich themselves? They're clever in any and every environment, and can ensure the endurance of modern civilization? I strongly doubt it.

Cities can be rebuilt in other places, we'd be able to evacuate them all in time.

Really? Millions of people can be evacuated in time? And where, exactly, will they go? Who will coordinate this? Will they even be willing?

Yes, because ensuring the survival of modern civilization means more MONEY. It really isn't that hard to evacuate a city over the span of a century or more.

[Kanaria]

we all will. How will the capie survive without his banks, bonds and shares?

Banks will not die just because oil runs out, that's absurd. Oil companies will die, and investors who invested in them will lose lots of money, but society will not just melt away.

Power's gonna run out, and there will be no transportation for the vast majority of people other than their feet and bikes.

what if you are poor,statistically if you are born poor, you will die poor. Social mobility is virtually non-existent

I was born well below the poverty level, I now am in the top 20% of income earners, take your concept of 'no social mobility' and shove them up your arse.

Virtually nonexistent does not mean you are impossible, my friend; it means that you are as rare an occurrence as a supernova in this galaxy whose GRB is aimed at this planet.

[Elepis]

what if you are poor,statistically if you are born poor, you will die poor. Social mobility is virtually non-existent

I was born well below the poverty level, I now am in the top 20% of income earners, take your concept of 'no social mobility' and shove them up your arse.

you are an exception, say what you just said to the billions in Africa or the millions on benefits who never went to a good school and no jobs will take on, even if they are smart.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Banks will not die just because oil runs out, that's absurd. Oil companies will die, and investors who invested in them will lose lots of money, but society will not just melt away.

You haven't been listening, oil melts sea lice, water rises, huge cities go underwater. No banks, no stocks, no shares

The banks will move somewhere else, just because NYC goes underwater, does not mean the economy is going to become nonexistent.

[Kanaria]

The Soviets didn't invade during Carter's term, so I think we were okay under him. Under Obama the unemployment rate's been falling, although attribution as to why...might not be good.

So capitalists know how to do something other than whatever they want to enrich themselves? They're clever in any and every environment, and can ensure the endurance of modern civilization? I strongly doubt it.

Really? Millions of people can be evacuated in time? And where, exactly, will they go? Who will coordinate this? Will they even be willing?

Yes, because ensuring the survival of modern civilization means more MONEY. It really isn't that hard to evacuate a city over the span of a century or more.

In that case, I suppose they will try to administer the rubble for a profit, and we can start fucking with Florida's economy right about now before Miami is integrated into the Atlantic Ocean.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Banks will not die just because oil runs out, that's absurd. Oil companies will die, and investors who invested in them will lose lots of money, but society will not just melt away.

Power's gonna run out, and there will be no transportation for the vast majority of people other than their feet and bikes.

I was born well below the poverty level, I now am in the top 20% of income earners, take your concept of 'no social mobility' and shove them up your arse.

Virtually nonexistent does not mean you are impossible, my friend; it means that you are as rare an occurrence as a supernova in this galaxy whose GRB is aimed at this planet.

The power isn't going to run out when oil runs out, there are other means of obtaining electricity. I wouldn't say it was a rare occurrence that I escaped poverty, I just got a Navy ROTC scholarship.

[Kanaria]

Ron Paul would have saved us all. He would've made anime real.

You gave me a dirty idea, my friend...

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

I was born well below the poverty level, I now am in the top 20% of income earners, take your concept of 'no social mobility' and shove them up your arse.

you are an exception, say what you just said to the billions in Africa or the millions on benefits who never went to a good school and no jobs will take on, even if they are smart.

If they're smart, they'll build good schools and jobs.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Ron Paul would have saved us all. He would've made anime real.

You gave me a dirty idea, my friend...

let's not R34 this one, please.

[Kingdom of Viana]

Jimmy Carter nearly drove the country to the ground. The economy was terrible unemployment was bad. He was so bad that New York voted republican to get rid of him.

Obama - high unemployment rate, 17 trillion dollars in debt and rejected keystone pipeline which could have helped, immigration executive order which is highly unpopular.

These idiots make Busch look like an excellent leader

You can't blame Carter for a crisis that was out of his control. The economy was driven by the worldwide oil crisis and stagflation of the late 70's. Carter had no chance of reelection with his dour mood, but he did start deregulation, something Reagan would continue.

Oh, yes, unemployment after a terrible recession is so high and terrible. Goodness me, the Great Depression ended in a couple of years. Seventeen trillion dollar debt...do you understand how debt works? We're in no trouble of defaulting or going under, just check economic policy and look at the Treasury bond rates. The other two are primarily ideological, so I cannot change those.

Obama created obamacare (hence the name obviously) is responsible for a huge chunk of that debt, and he rejected keystone pipeline that could've helped.

[Elepis]

You haven't been listening, oil melts sea lice, water rises, huge cities go underwater. No banks, no stocks, no shares

The banks will move somewhere else, just because NYC goes underwater, does not mean the economy is going to become nonexistent.

and Washington, and Philadelphia, and Boston, and Quebec, and Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver and Seattle and Portland and Los Angeles and EVERY COASTAL CITY

[Kanaria]

you are an exception, say what you just said to the billions in Africa or the millions on benefits who never went to a good school and no jobs will take on, even if they are smart.

If they're smart, they'll build good schools and jobs.

Once they can muster the resources and time, yes. Although I doubt it's easy in Africa or in downtown Toledo to do that.

You gave me a dirty idea, my friend...

let's not R34 this one, please.

Okay, I won't.

[Kelinfort]

You can't blame Carter for a crisis that was out of his control. The economy was driven by the worldwide oil crisis and stagflation of the late 70's. Carter had no chance of reelection with his dour mood, but he did start deregulation, something Reagan would continue.

Oh, yes, unemployment after a terrible recession is so high and terrible. Goodness me, the Great Depression ended in a couple of years. Seventeen trillion dollar debt...do you understand how debt works? We're in no trouble of defaulting or going under, just check economic policy and look at the Treasury bond rates. The other two are primarily ideological, so I cannot change those.

Obama created obamacare (hence the name obviously) is responsible for a huge chunk of that debt, and he rejected keystone pipeline that could've helped.

No, it's not.

Could've helped what?

[Elepis]

you are an exception, say what you just said to the billions in Africa or the millions on benefits who never went to a good school and no jobs will take on, even if they are smart.

If they're smart, they'll build good schools and jobs.

so someone with 5 pounds an hour will build a good school. How?

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

The banks will move somewhere else, just because NYC goes underwater, does not mean the economy is going to become nonexistent.

and Washington, and Philadelphia, and Boston, and Quebec, and Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver and Seattle and Portland and Los Angeles and EVERY COASTAL CITY

Not every city is on the coast, right?

[Kelinfort]

you are an exception, say what you just said to the billions in Africa or the millions on benefits who never went to a good school and no jobs will take on, even if they are smart.

If they're smart, they'll build good schools and jobs.

Society doesn't work like that, buddy.

[Solorni]

You can't blame Carter for a crisis that was out of his control. The economy was driven by the worldwide oil crisis and stagflation of the late 70's. Carter had no chance of reelection with his dour mood, but he did start deregulation, something Reagan would continue.

Oh, yes, unemployment after a terrible recession is so high and terrible. Goodness me, the Great Depression ended in a couple of years. Seventeen trillion dollar debt...do you understand how debt works? We're in no trouble of defaulting or going under, just check economic policy and look at the Treasury bond rates. The other two are primarily ideological, so I cannot change those.

Obama created obamacare (hence the name obviously) is responsible for a huge chunk of that debt, and he rejected keystone pipeline that could've helped.

I thought it was the Affordable Care Act? As well.. tax cuts under Reagan are why the US debt is so high.

The banks will move somewhere else, just because NYC goes underwater, does not mean the economy is going to become nonexistent.

and Washington, and Philadelphia, and Boston, and Quebec, and Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver and Seattle and Portland and Los Angeles and EVERY COASTAL CITY

Since when is Quebec a city? And since when are Toronto & Montreal coastal cities?

[Elepis]

and Washington, and Philadelphia, and Boston, and Quebec, and Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver and Seattle and Portland and Los Angeles and EVERY COASTAL CITY

Not every city is on the coast, right?

Most of the huge, rich ones are

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

If they're smart, they'll build good schools and jobs.

so someone with 5 pounds an hour will build a good school. How?

One person cannot, but a pool of a few hundred people making that much could probably do it

[Elepis]

Obama created obamacare (hence the name obviously) is responsible for a huge chunk of that debt, and he rejected keystone pipeline that could've helped.

I thought it was the Affordable Care Act? As well.. tax cuts under Reagan are why the US debt is so high.

and Washington, and Philadelphia, and Boston, and Quebec, and Montreal and Toronto and Vancouver and Seattle and Portland and Los Angeles and EVERY COASTAL CITY

Since when is Quebec a city? And since when are Toronto & Montreal coastal cities?

A: Quebec City, in Quebec
B: If the sea level rises, so will the water level in river, like the St Lawrence which leads in to lake Ontario which those cities are on

[Elepis]

so someone with 5 pounds an hour will build a good school. How?

One person cannot, but a pool of a few hundred people making that much could probably do it

No they couldn't society isn't like that. When and why could some poor people from south London just build a school?

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Not every city is on the coast, right?

Most of the huge, rich ones are

Well, then the inland cities will be huge and rich.

[Elepis]

Most of the huge, rich ones are

Well, then the inland cities will be huge and rich.

No because everyone will be reeling from the loss of the huge cities which will create anarchy (not the good type either)


It is like arguing with a dolphin!

[Kelinfort]

Ignoring foreign policy, he was solid.

He opened America's borders to the Third World with that bastard Ted Kennedy, who promised that America's ethnic composition would not change. They blatantly lied.

Yes, America is being balkanised before our very eyes. These poor brown people will ruin this nation's great past! *nod*

Seriously, why does it matter? The US has only grown stronger and still has the world's largest economy. We're not worse for new immigrants.