Worst Leader your (RL) Country ever had?

[The Silver Bloods]

America -

Jimmy Carter

Barack Obama

You've never heard of Buchanan, Pierce, Grant, or Harding, have you?

Also, evidence?

I agree with Buchanan and Pierce, with them being my fourth and fifth.

[Anglo-California]

Barack Obama

Jimmy Carter

Lyndon B. Johnson

Carter and Obama were/are lame ducks, but Johnson was atrocious.

[Elepis]

So people who are melting our ice caps, which will one day lead to the flooding of New York, London, St Petersburg, Venice and much more, our on our side> How do you figure that out.

The oil companies like selling things in USD, they like being able to sell to countries like the US with large demand for oil because they make more money.

so, they are still going to drown hundreds of huge cities

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

We can be less dependent on oil when there is a reason to be less dependent on it. The free market is the free market, and as long as oil is cheaper, we will use it.

Or at least until it runs out, when your precious Free Market will be to blame for the poverty.

Boom & Bust
When the oil bubble finally pops and there's none left, there will be a depression, but it will recover as we find alternatives.

[Solorni]

I'm not sure really. I don't think Canada has ever had a -really- bad leader. According to Macleans, our worst Prime Minister was Kim Cambell... but she was only Prime Minister for a very short time in the tail end of an increasingly unpopular conservative government.

The U.S. one is far more interesting and in recent memory it would have to be Reagan.

[Kanaria]

Buchanan, Reagan, Coolidge, maybe Bush II can all take the cake, the exploding cake, up their asses.

Reagan? Are you insane?

No, I'm a democratic socialist. The puke helped strengthen subtly racist anti-government not helping them and them only achieve their utopia conservative retards.
Coolidge just sat back and did absolutely nothing because of his antipathy toward government and ignorance of the situation, leading to the depression.
Buchanan also did nothing at all, although I should thank him for that because I hate the South.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Well, I don't plan to get married, so it doesn't benefit me in the slightest to pay for everyone else's weddings and not get a return investment.

health care you use that, food, you eat that, water, you drink that, electricity you are using that now. Wouldn't it be so much better if it was cheaper and state run?

No, because then my burden would have to be carried by everyone else, which is unfair to everyone else.

[The Silver Bloods]

Barack Obama

Jimmy Carter

Lyndon B. Johnson

Carter and Obama were/are lame ducks, but Johnson was atrocious.

That being the reason why they are my Top 3 Worst Presidents

[Kelinfort]

Barack Obama

Jimmy Carter

Lyndon B. Johnson

Carter and Obama were/are lame ducks, but Johnson was atrocious.

Ignoring foreign policy, he was solid.

[Kingdom of Viana]

America -

Jimmy Carter

Barack Obama

You've never heard of Buchanan, Pierce, Grant, or Harding, have you?

Also, evidence?

Jimmy Carter nearly drove the country to the ground. The economy was terrible unemployment was bad. He was so bad that New York voted republican to get rid of him.

Obama - high unemployment rate, 17 trillion dollars in debt and rejected keystone pipeline which could have helped, immigration executive order which is highly unpopular.

These idiots make Busch look like an excellent leader

[Elepis]

Or at least until it runs out, when your precious Free Market will be to blame for the poverty.

Boom & Bust
When the oil bubble finally pops and there's none left, there will be a depression, but it will recover as we find alternatives.

no, we will all be living in caves tying to create fire because human civilization will have disappeared after out main cities go along with government, fiance and all other things modern civilization needs

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

The oil companies like selling things in USD, they like being able to sell to countries like the US with large demand for oil because they make more money.

so, they are still going to drown hundreds of huge cities

Cities can be rebuilt in other places, we'd be able to evacuate them all in time.

[The Silver Bloods]

Carter and Obama were/are lame ducks, but Johnson was atrocious.

Ignoring foreign policy, he was solid.

Yeah just putting Vietnam aside he was solid.

[Elepis]

health care you use that, food, you eat that, water, you drink that, electricity you are using that now. Wouldn't it be so much better if it was cheaper and state run?

No, because then my burden would have to be carried by everyone else, which is unfair to everyone else.

no because everyone gets it cheaper and more efficiently

[Anglo-California]

However, World War I thankfully destroyed many European ethnic identities in the United States and brought about a strong feeling of Americaness. But I guess we have Theodore Roosevelt to thank for that.

Which ones? The Polish, German, Irish, Italian remain pretty strong nationally. Not to mention, the Armenians in Southern California, Greeks and Swedes in sparse parts of the nation, and Lithuanians in Chicago.

Ethnic nationalism really died down though.

The German-American identity today is NOTHING compared to what it was in 1910. And the Irish one is a farce. Bunch of plastic paddies, and the Italian one has largely been dead since the 1950s. All they have to fall back on now are mobster movies and their accents. Poles? Lol.

The Armenians maybe, but are they European?

As for ethnic nationalism, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about many ethnic identities in the United States, and the World Wars and the 1924 immigration quotas destroyed these and really Americanized everybody.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Boom & Bust
When the oil bubble finally pops and there's none left, there will be a depression, but it will recover as we find alternatives.

no, we will all be living in caves tying to create fire because human civilization will have disappeared after out main cities go along with government, fiance and all other things modern civilization needs

Maybe you will, the capitalist is more clever than the caveman.

[Anglo-California]

Carter and Obama were/are lame ducks, but Johnson was atrocious.

Ignoring foreign policy, he was solid.

He opened America's borders to the Third World with that bastard Ted Kennedy, who promised that America's ethnic composition would not change. They blatantly lied.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

No, because then my burden would have to be carried by everyone else, which is unfair to everyone else.

no because everyone gets it cheaper and more efficiently

My philosophy is simple. If you need something, you pay for it yourself. My burden is not yours, yours is not mine. Personal responsibility is important.

[Elepis]

no, we will all be living in caves tying to create fire because human civilization will have disappeared after out main cities go along with government, fiance and all other things modern civilization needs

Maybe you will, the capitalist is more clever than the caveman.

we all will. How will the capie survive without his banks, bonds and shares?

[Kelinfort]

You've never heard of Buchanan, Pierce, Grant, or Harding, have you?

Also, evidence?

Jimmy Carter nearly drove the country to the ground. The economy was terrible unemployment was bad. He was so bad that New York voted republican to get rid of him.

Obama - high unemployment rate, 17 trillion dollars in debt and rejected keystone pipeline which could have helped, immigration executive order which is highly unpopular.

These idiots make Busch look like an excellent leader

You can't blame Carter for a crisis that was out of his control. The economy was driven by the worldwide oil crisis and stagflation of the late 70's. Carter had no chance of reelection with his dour mood, but he did start deregulation, something Reagan would continue.

Oh, yes, unemployment after a terrible recession is so high and terrible. Goodness me, the Great Depression ended in a couple of years. Seventeen trillion dollar debt...do you understand how debt works? We're in no trouble of defaulting or going under, just check economic policy and look at the Treasury bond rates. The other two are primarily ideological, so I cannot change those.

[Elepis]

no because everyone gets it cheaper and more efficiently

My philosophy is simple. If you need something, you pay for it yourself. My burden is not yours, yours is not mine. Personal responsibility is important.

what if you are poor,statistically if you are born poor, you will die poor. Social mobility is virtually non-existent

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Maybe you will, the capitalist is more clever than the caveman.

we all will. How will the capie survive without his banks, bonds and shares?

Banks will not die just because oil runs out, that's absurd. Oil companies will die, and investors who invested in them will lose lots of money, but society will not just melt away.

[Kanaria]

You've never heard of Buchanan, Pierce, Grant, or Harding, have you?

Also, evidence?

Jimmy Carter nearly drove the country to the ground. The economy was terrible unemployment was bad. He was so bad that New York voted republican to get rid of him.

Obama - high unemployment rate, 17 trillion dollars in debt and rejected keystone pipeline which could have helped, immigration executive order which is highly unpopular.

These idiots make Busch look like an excellent leader

The Soviets didn't invade during Carter's term, so I think we were okay under him. Under Obama the unemployment rate's been falling, although attribution as to why...might not be good.

no, we will all be living in caves tying to create fire because human civilization will have disappeared after out main cities go along with government, fiance and all other things modern civilization needs

Maybe you will, the capitalist is more clever than the caveman.

So capitalists know how to do something other than whatever they want to enrich themselves? They're clever in any and every environment, and can ensure the endurance of modern civilization? I strongly doubt it.

so, they are still going to drown hundreds of huge cities

Cities can be rebuilt in other places, we'd be able to evacuate them all in time.

Really? Millions of people can be evacuated in time? And where, exactly, will they go? Who will coordinate this? Will they even be willing?

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

My philosophy is simple. If you need something, you pay for it yourself. My burden is not yours, yours is not mine. Personal responsibility is important.

what if you are poor,statistically if you are born poor, you will die poor. Social mobility is virtually non-existent

I was born well below the poverty level, I now am in the top 20% of income earners, take your concept of 'no social mobility' and shove them up your arse.

[Elepis]

we all will. How will the capie survive without his banks, bonds and shares?

Banks will not die just because oil runs out, that's absurd. Oil companies will die, and investors who invested in them will lose lots of money, but society will not just melt away.

You haven't been listening, oil melts sea lice, water rises, huge cities go underwater. No banks, no stocks, no shares