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Panzerjaeger
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Sun May 02, 2010 7:04 pm

Scarsaw wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Pretty close to mine except I am way more authoritarian. :lol:


*shhhh* If Greater Americania knows, you'll get kicked out of the Nationalist Union!

I know...ever since you got kicked out I started looking for another residence. :?


Yeah, I don't think he realize that nationalism can be both applied to a capitalist and socialist economic system. :lol: Good luck though.

Me either and one of the reasons I even showed up was that me and GA had a pretty good discussion via TG and you were there so I was like this could be good. Then it crumbled apart rather quickly. :p
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Scarsaw
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Postby Scarsaw » Sun May 02, 2010 7:07 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Pretty close to mine except I am way more authoritarian. :lol:


*shhhh* If Greater Americania knows, you'll get kicked out of the Nationalist Union!

I know...ever since you got kicked out I started looking for another residence. :?


Yeah, I don't think he realize that nationalism can be both applied to a capitalist and socialist economic system. :lol: Good luck though.

Me either and one of the reasons I even showed up was that me and GA had a pretty good discussion via TG and you were there so I was like this could be good. Then it crumbled apart rather quickly. :p


See, I joined because he invited me as I used to belong to Nazi Europe and we've had some good talks before; however, the leader of Nazi Europe banned me as he was growing afraid that I would take his delegate position away since I was gaining quite a bit in influence. I find that is the largest problem at NS, there is not enough good nazi/national socialist regions. :(
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Panzerjaeger
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Sun May 02, 2010 7:10 pm

Scarsaw wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:
Panzerjaeger wrote:Pretty close to mine except I am way more authoritarian. :lol:


*shhhh* If Greater Americania knows, you'll get kicked out of the Nationalist Union!

I know...ever since you got kicked out I started looking for another residence. :?


Yeah, I don't think he realize that nationalism can be both applied to a capitalist and socialist economic system. :lol: Good luck though.

Me either and one of the reasons I even showed up was that me and GA had a pretty good discussion via TG and you were there so I was like this could be good. Then it crumbled apart rather quickly. :p


See, I joined because he invited me as I used to belong to Nazi Europe and we've had some good talks before; however, the leader of Nazi Europe banned me as he was growing afraid that I would take his delegate position away since I was gaining quite a bit in influence. I find that is the largest problem at NS, there is not enough good nazi/national socialist regions. :(

Completely agreed then again I found Nazi Europe laughably dull regardless of all the hate it gets. I just tend to float around regions now just going wherever the wind takes me. :lol:
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Natapoc
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Postby Natapoc » Sun May 02, 2010 7:13 pm

Conservative Alliances wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
Conservative Alliances wrote:
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Conservative Alliances wrote:As far as federal government, I do not believe that the govenment should be able to enforce "morality" and should consist solely of courts and the military. It should operate on "everyone is free to do what they want as long as it does not infringe on anyone else's right to do what they want." Obviously, for practical reasons, that is just a general rule. I think state governments and lower should be allowed to democratically pass whatever they want as long as it does no conflict with established federal law, which should be scant. However, my personal beliefs are very conservative. I believe in a strong religious upbringing, I believe in marriage before sex, I don't think abortion should be legal, I don't want gay marriage, I don't want gun regulation, I don't want affirmative action, I don't want welfare, I want the death penalty, I want drug laws, and I want stronger sentences for all crimes. But, I wouldn't force these beliefs on anybody and when it comes down to it, they aren't a high priority compared to my economic beliefs. What does that make me?


Okay lets say in this regional area you had the right to pass a law restricting drug use and increasing tougher sentences for all crimes. Would you vote for that law?

I would.


Then you are an authoritarian, or a conservative who respects the rights of other states to be run under different laws.

So a libertarian when it comes to government structure and a conservative otherwise?


Nah not libertarian at all even when it comes to structure. You are a conservative who believes in state sovereignty. Which is better then a conservative that does not believe in state sovereignty :)
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Scarsaw
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Postby Scarsaw » Sun May 02, 2010 7:23 pm

Panzerjaeger wrote:Completely agreed then again I found Nazi Europe laughably dull regardless of all the hate it gets. I just tend to float around regions now just going wherever the wind takes me. :lol:


Well the region has gotten bad this last year, but last year it was actually pretty good place and we used to have good conversations about nazi germany or nazism. Now a days, it seems to be nothing but neo-nazis who circle jerk as they cry "kill da Jew!"...nothing but a shell of itself.

But there is much to say about those who drift by the wind, as you'll meet and see quite a few that way *nods*
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The REAL Glasers
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Postby The REAL Glasers » Sun May 02, 2010 8:17 pm

Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.33

A lot closer to Anarchism than I thought I'd be.
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SaintB
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Postby SaintB » Sun May 02, 2010 8:24 pm

Economic Left 5.00
Social Libertarian 4.92

Almost exactly center bottom left.
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Postby Natapoc » Sun May 02, 2010 8:42 pm

SaintB wrote:Economic Left 5.00
Social Libertarian 4.92

Almost exactly center bottom left.


Did you mean to put a minus sign in front of at least one of the numbers there?
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SaintB
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Postby SaintB » Sun May 02, 2010 9:02 pm

Natapoc wrote:
SaintB wrote:Economic Left 5.00
Social Libertarian 4.92

Almost exactly center bottom left.


Did you mean to put a minus sign in front of at least one of the numbers there?

They are both in the negative spectrum on the line, (-5, -4.92) but I instead removed the - and just kept the proper word so it read Left Libertarian.
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Tunizcha
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Postby Tunizcha » Sun May 02, 2010 11:08 pm

I took it again. I moved to the right.
Economic Left 8.2
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Postby Delator » Sun May 02, 2010 11:32 pm

Retook the test for the first time in a while.

Stayed the same socially, but have moved significantly to the left economically...I used to hover between -2.5 and -3.

Economic: -6.75
Social: -5.64
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Cheeseoslavia
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Postby Cheeseoslavia » Sun May 02, 2010 11:39 pm

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -0.62
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.51


I personally view myself as a Libertarian, or, in extreme situations, borderline anarchist. This may or may not stem from my issues with submitting to authority...

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Lackadaisical2
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Sun May 02, 2010 11:41 pm

Tunizcha wrote:I took it again. I moved to the right.
Economic Left 8.2
Social Libertarian 10.0

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New Immortallia
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Postby New Immortallia » Sun May 02, 2010 11:43 pm

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Port Angus
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Postby Port Angus » Mon May 03, 2010 12:25 am

Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.90
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The Galirandi
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Postby The Galirandi » Tue May 04, 2010 8:50 am

Natapoc wrote:
The Galirandi wrote:
Natapoc wrote:
The Galirandi wrote:
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Economic Left/Right: 1.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.13

Last time I took it I was somewhere in the vicinity of (0.88, -5.69), I think. Based on my political views relative to those of the rest of my family and friends, though, I've always felt my social scores to be a few points too high, with the -9 to -10 range being more accurate.

I wonder how they calculate these things?


Do you believe the government should not exist, prisons should not exist, ect.

Government? Ideally it wouldn't be necessary. In practice, some government is desirable, although honestly I don't trust it as far as I can throw it, and the ultimate aim of society should be to reach a state where we can get rid of government altogether. Prisons? No reason for them. Violation of basic human rights and waste of resources -- the reason criminal actions are criminal is because of the harm they do to people and society, but causing more harm to people and society to deal with them seems pointless.


You must have picked some measures that indicated you supported the existence of governments, prisons, restrictions on use of substances, death penalty, ect.

To get -10 you cannot support any authoritarian power structure (not even a little bit).

It's quite possible. I said "strongly agree" to giving public funding to theatres and museums for instance -- which probably implied that I supported the existence of a government of some kind.

Central Slavia wrote:
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Government? Ideally it wouldn't be necessary. In practice, some government is desirable, although honestly I don't trust it as far as I can throw it, and the ultimate aim of society should be to reach a state where we can get rid of government altogether. Prisons? No reason for them. Violation of basic human rights and waste of resources -- the reason criminal actions are criminal is because of the harm they do to people and society, but causing more harm to people and society to deal with them seems pointless.


Please tell me you are not serious, or at least that you support execution or at least exile of villains.
How do you expect to curb criminality if you will lack any punishment?

Don't get me wrong; there is "punishment." Just not in the strict sense of imprisonment or otherwise harming a criminal (in most cases). For an example, let's say a white-collar worker commits fraud, causing a company to lose millions of dollars. What's her punishment? Well, the company was deprived of millions of dollars, so it makes the most sense for her to give the money back. Thus a proportion of her income will go to that company in exchange until the balance of her fraud and the cost to society of the trial have been made up (and the purpose of law enforcement will be to stick around to make sure she goes through with it). The businessperson, after all, can still be productive; she just needs an incentive to be good.

Or going down further to the streets, a career criminal might break into a house and steal a television. His punishment? Again, a homeowner's been deprived of a television (and whatever else he broke or stole while B&Eing), as has the company that made it if he sold it, so he has to build a new television set for them. And make a new windowpane, and whatever. This is especially useful because it both makes up the damage to the victim and teaches the career criminal useful skills which will make him employable -- if he had such skills beforehand, after all, he wouldn't be a career criminal. Crime is generally a profession taken up by those who aren't smart or educated enough to work.

Of course, with violent criminals we run into problems with this model. A murderer, for instance, can't possibly restore her victim to life. A rapist can't undo the psychological and physical trauma he's caused. There's also not much chance of some violent criminals being easily re-integrated into society; rehabilitation can be attempted, but it doesn't always work. I'd suppose we could enlist them in "schools", where they'd receive psychological counseling and therapy as a form of rehabilitation and be assigned some kind of work to do during the daytime (presumably some kind of manual labour, like building roads -- just to keep them from sitting around doing nothing). The point would basically be for them to contribute to society more than others in exchange for having harmed it more than others, so most likely they wouldn't be paid for doing this kind of work, unless they were sufficiently rehabilitated to be deemed reformed. Even after being reformed I like the idea of a community service quota for ex-cons, if it's a violent crime they committed. Not sure how realistic that is though.

furthermore , legal punishment does not deal harm to society rather to those who have separated themselves from it voluntarily by their vile actions

Prisons are expensive, inefficient, drain tax money, take up land and workers that could be better used for other things, and lower real estate prices in their immediate vicinity. They also promote a culture of violence among inmates and wardens which does nothing to actually stop crime, let alone offsetting it; merely move it to behind bars. Finally, every prisoner is a potential contributor to society and, if they were not in prison, could be engaged in doing something productive which would help others. So yeah, it does harm society. It might even harm you personally, if you have trouble paying your rent because the government takes too much of your income to fund its bloated and inefficient prison system, although that's a better argument for abolishing the military.

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Postby Briganti » Tue May 04, 2010 9:01 am

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The Moet
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Postby The Moet » Fri May 14, 2010 5:55 am

Economic Left/Right: 9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.23

Far right, slightly authroitarian. Exactly where I belong.

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Postby South Norwega » Fri May 14, 2010 6:01 am


He certainly isn't ever wrong, that's for sure! :D

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Economic Left/Right: 0.60
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23
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Economic Left/Right: 0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.00

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Postby Bafuria » Fri May 14, 2010 10:15 am

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Postby Bust Nexus » Fri May 14, 2010 11:06 am

Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.74

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Postby American MapleStory » Fri May 14, 2010 11:24 am

Look at my compass (in sig)
Just like George W Bush. :)
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Postby Panzerjaeger » Fri May 14, 2010 12:00 pm

American MapleStory wrote:Look at my compass (in sig)
Just like George W Bush. :)

That is something I would never, ever brag about. :?
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