Rosetta mission scientist Dr Matt Taylor persecuted by SJWs

[The Two Jerseys]

Sooo... the consumer of said shirt is criticized and not the producer?

Apparently it was custom-made, so it's not like the manufacturer is actually marketing it.

[Ifreann]

I heard about this when I noticed small horse cartoonist and feminist Lauren Faust applauding Dr. Taylor on Twitter for apologising for his shirt. Fuckin' unreasonable SJWs, eh?

Oho! Something constructive. Got a link, hon?

https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/533503115707023360
https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/533354979768029184

[The Holy Therns]

Oho! Something constructive. Got a link, hon?

https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/533503115707023360
https://twitter.com/Fyre_flye/status/533354979768029184

Lovely! Issue settled, then. Thank you for the clarification.

[Frazers]

Ridiculous. The man did something incredible and the petty idiots used him for there own stupid little agenda. The man should be lauded.

"used him" = Asked him to apologise and were apparently satisfied when he did so. He's been correctly celebrated for what he did right, so he should also apologise for what he did wrong.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. They're small people with small minds who can't fathom that perhaps everything isn't an attack on them. They can fuck right off. It doesn't matter that they're satisfied that they achieved a stupid aim. They should never have aimed for it in the first place. This was more about furthering their own agenda than actually giving a shit about him. He was nothing more than a very public figure to attach their message to. Fuck the lot of them.

[Novorobo]

EDIT: NVM, misinterpreted story.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

In the effort of salvaging the discussion: I'd disagree. The inherent problem isn't so much that he owns and wears a shirt like this, it's the context in which he wore it. That would be a responsibility beyond the manufacturer's scope.

Yeah.

It's not like people are supposed to be sex-negative?

I think sex-critical (is it even a majority within social justice and feminism?) is nice and all, but it might be counterproductive if we direct it at the wrong audience in the wrong time. If anything dominant class folks who have an interest in less slut-shaming are useful allies, because they see use in our politics for their own benefit.

Gender is super organic and magic to me and other non-binary people, but do cis people like learning about it to the point they know it to a rainbow-puking point? Generally no. They only really learn about it, when they do, is because 1. they're already into our politics 2. they're trying to have empathy

People who are dominant class hate 1 because "feminism is nasty" and as average people they're not interested in 2, waxing about empathy when it comes to groups that aren't theirs and that they hold as a distant complementary role with fully different expectations and ~fate as inborn nature~ for their ultimate functions in life (dyadic cishet women) or that they shouldn't really enter in huge contact with or hold as an example to their own stuff (queer people) doesn't sound like a common exercise, given the popularity of people like Charlie Sheen. (Did I already say the Brazilian fandom of Two and A Half Men is repugnant and vile?)

So yeah, long story short, I doubt people are complaining about the shirt, or will ever do something similar in the future.

[Alyakia]

So apparently it's not reasonable to complain about women wearing skimpy clothing, but it's reasonable to complain about men wearing something that shows a woman wearing skimpy clothing?

swing and a miss.

"used him" = Asked him to apologise and were apparently satisfied when he did so. He's been correctly celebrated for what he did right, so he should also apologise for what he did wrong.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. They're small people with small minds who can't fathom that perhaps everything isn't an attack on them. They can fuck right off. It doesn't matter that they're satisfied that they achieved a stupid aim. They should never have aimed for it in the first place. This was more about furthering their own agenda than actually giving a shit about him. He was nothing more than a very public figure to attach their message to. Fuck the lot of them.

to be fair taking off your proper professional clothes to put on a comic shirt probably isn't the best idea period

[Frazers]

So apparently it's not reasonable to complain about women wearing skimpy clothing, but it's reasonable to complain about men wearing something that shows a woman wearing skimpy clothing?

swing and a miss.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. They're small people with small minds who can't fathom that perhaps everything isn't an attack on them. They can fuck right off. It doesn't matter that they're satisfied that they achieved a stupid aim. They should never have aimed for it in the first place. This was more about furthering their own agenda than actually giving a shit about him. He was nothing more than a very public figure to attach their message to. Fuck the lot of them.

to be fair taking off your proper professional clothes to put on a comic shirt probably isn't the best idea period

And it's ridiculous that someone in his position and with his kind of achievement should be judged by what he's wearing rather than the calibre of his scientific mind.

I suppose he was asking for it given what he was wearing though. Right guys?

[Allancia]

Personally, I blame Obama.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

He did absolutely nothing wrong. They're small people with small minds who can't fathom that perhaps everything isn't an attack on them. They can fuck right off. It doesn't matter that they're satisfied that they achieved a stupid aim. They should never have aimed for it in the first place. This was more about furthering their own agenda than actually giving a shit about him. He was nothing more than a very public figure to attach their message to. Fuck the lot of them.

It's because of people like you that we should do it.

Manly frustration = mission accomplished.

[Revanchism]

swing and a miss.



to be fair taking off your proper professional clothes to put on a comic shirt probably isn't the best idea period

And it's ridiculous that someone in his position and with his kind of achievement should be judged by what he's wearing rather than the calibre of his scientific mind.

I suppose he was asking for it given what he was wearing though. Right guys?

Do you even have a job?

[Alyakia]

swing and a miss.



to be fair taking off your proper professional clothes to put on a comic shirt probably isn't the best idea period

And it's ridiculous that someone in his position and with his kind of achievement should be judged by what he's wearing rather than the calibre of his scientific mind.

I suppose he was asking for it given what he was wearing though. Right guys?

it's ridiclous that he decided to take off his professional uniform to put on something unprofessional. i'm not saying get the pikes out but really.

[Frazers]

And it's ridiculous that someone in his position and with his kind of achievement should be judged by what he's wearing rather than the calibre of his scientific mind.

I suppose he was asking for it given what he was wearing though. Right guys?

Do you even have a job?

Actuary
Landlord

Yes.

[Washington Resistance Army]

[T]hough it's absolutely horrible that people have obviously hurt such an intelligent man

No. It's exactly because he's intelligent and has a reputation of intelligence, that he shouldn't do dumb things that are harmful to people who hold less relevance to other people's eyes.

So wearing a cheesy shirt is dumb now

Screw them, it's a fucking shirt it doesn't dissuade women from doing anything.

Not directly.

Indirectly, symbolism would have, depending on the perspective of who sees it, a big man doing something great in the history of mankind where woman are a secondary figure of aesthetics and sexualization under the gaze of tru protagonists of history.

You have a male perspective. So don't be so eager to call BS and desperate attempts of gathering controversy.

Sorry but I'm just not seeing it, yes it's a cheesy shirt and not something you should wear for something so official but the SJW's are just being stupid like always. It's a shirt, they just need to get over it because no one was hurt by it.

[Frazers]

And it's ridiculous that someone in his position and with his kind of achievement should be judged by what he's wearing rather than the calibre of his scientific mind.

I suppose he was asking for it given what he was wearing though. Right guys?

it's ridiclous that he decided to take off his professional uniform to put on something unprofessional. i'm not saying get the pikes out but really.

He put on something he felt comfortable in to celebrate the culmination of a careers work. Fuck that guy

[Glasgia]

"used him" = Asked him to apologise and were apparently satisfied when he did so. He's been correctly celebrated for what he did right, so he should also apologise for what he did wrong.

He did absolutely nothing wrong. They're small people with small minds who can't fathom that perhaps everything isn't an attack on them. They can fuck right off. It doesn't matter that they're satisfied that they achieved a stupid aim. They should never have aimed for it in the first place. This was more about furthering their own agenda than actually giving a shit about him. He was nothing more than a very public figure to attach their message to. Fuck the lot of them.

That's some cute language you're using there. I don't see how asking for Matt to apologise for a degrading shirt, without actually suggesting it as any kind of "attack on them", is "furthering their own agenda". He did the right, he apologised, people accepted the apology - End of.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

And it's ridiculous that someone in his position and with his kind of achievement should be judged by what he's wearing rather than the calibre of his scientific mind.

Academicism is ugly.

Sometimes scientists are oppressive too. We should expect high standards from them exactly because, like politicians, educators, people who work in the media, and so on, they are powerful and advance certain ideologies.

In his case, it's exactly because he's estimated as a symbol of power through knowledge.

[Alyakia]

it's ridiclous that he decided to take off his professional uniform to put on something unprofessional. i'm not saying get the pikes out but really.

He put on something he felt comfortable in to celebrate the culmination of a careers work. Fuck that guy

yes. it's the culmination of a careers work. the presidents of several countries are watching. if you want to be comfortable do it when you're not talking to the world. he was apparently comfortable enough that he didn't decide to wear it until the event, after which he promptly took it off again. ho hum.

[Frazers]

And it's ridiculous that someone in his position and with his kind of achievement should be judged by what he's wearing rather than the calibre of his scientific mind.

Academicism is ugly.

Sometimes scientists are oppressive too. We should expect high standards from them exactly because, like politicians, educators, people who work in the media, and so on, they are powerful and advance certain ideologies.

In his case, it's exactly because he's estimated as a symbol of power through knowledge.

What bearing does his clothing have on any of that?

[Frazers]

He put on something he felt comfortable in to celebrate the culmination of a careers work. Fuck that guy

yes. it's the culmination of a careers work. the presidents of several countries are watching. if you want to be comfortable do it when you're not talking to the world. he was apparently comfortable enough that he didn't decide to wear it until the event, after which he promptly took it off again. ho hum.

Bow down to the authorities? I didn't expect that from you

[Laerod]

And it's ridiculous that someone in his position and with his kind of achievement should be judged by what he's wearing rather than the calibre of his scientific mind.

Someone with that kind of avatar would say that...

I suppose he was asking for it given what he was wearing though. Right guys?

For comments on the appropriateness of his attire in the function he was in? Sure. Is implying that this is similar to rape a disgusting thing and should you be ashamed of yourself? Yes.

[Frazers]

And it's ridiculous that someone in his position and with his kind of achievement should be judged by what he's wearing rather than the calibre of his scientific mind.

Someone with that kind of avatar would say that...

Meaning?

[Murkwood]

I'm stuck between my prudishness and my intense dislike of SJWs.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Sorry but I'm just not seeing it, yes it's a cheesy shirt and not something you should wear for something so official but the SJW's are just being stupid like always. It's a shirt, they just need to get over it because no one was hurt by it.

No one was hurt, but it represents a pattern inside society!

Sexuality does represent class power when it's objectifying and in an unilateral way. It would even if said objectification became equal - what I doubt as we don't socially expect the acquiring of sexual conquest skills by women, we don't even hold it as biologically logical -, because [dyadic cishet] men are still historically privileged over other groups.

[Sdaeriji]

The reaction to the reaction has completely outscaled the reaction itself.