If the Confederacy Won

[Benuty]

Well, I guess I would probably be racist and have a much more pronounced Southern accent.

Most likely you wouldn't have either existed or died in the nuclear ash.

[United States Kingdom]

I actually think that overtime, the Confederacy if it survived all the shit that would happen after they won, would be able to become like the North, although it would take a long time. Centuries in a worst case scenario

[United Marxist Nations]

Well, I guess I would probably be racist and have a much more pronounced Southern accent.

Most likely you wouldn't have either existed or died in the nuclear ash.

Well, if a hypothetical me would have existed.

You know, for a theologian, you are being a little too literal.

[Digital Planets]

We would have a lot more than just Ferguson happening.

[Benuty]

Most likely you wouldn't have either existed or died in the nuclear ash.

Well, if a hypothetical me would have existed.

You know, for a theologian, you are being a little too literal.

I was more or so referring to your (alternate universe )parents being killed thus the (alternate universe) you wouldn't exist.

Possibly due to a long protracted series of wars.

[Benuty]

We would have a lot more than just Ferguson happening.

It would be worse.

Minorities would probably be living in assigned "districts of autonomy" requiring a passbook system just to get to work outside.

[Digital Planets]

We would have a lot more than just Ferguson happening.

It would be worse.

Minorities would probably be living in assigned "districts of autonomy" requiring a passbook system just to get to work outside.

On the other hand, if the Confederacy won, things might have not changed at all, save maybe social issues like acceptance of homosexuality being pushed back at least 40 years from the level of acceptance we have now.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Well, I guess I would probably be racist and have a much more pronounced Southern accent.

I actually heard that the variation in accents between the North and the South got much more pronounced after the Civil War and was partly a way for Southerners to set themselves apart -- similar to what blacks do with "ghetto" accents.

[Rio Cana]

If the CSA had won then more then likely they would have tried to annex part of Northern Mexico in order to get to the Pacific Ocean. Thus, chances are Mexico, the US and Spain would ally against the CSA. Spain controlled Cuba and more then likely the CSA would want to take Cuba by force.

Read this. Its short. Its about the CSA plan to conquer parts of Latin America.
http://www.neatorama.com/2011/01/06/the ... n-america/

[Untaroicht]

I probably wouldn't be alive or if I was I'd be a second-class citizen- and that's coming from a 100% white guy (I'm greek though, a white ethnic minority that would have been easily targeted for discrimination)

[The-South]

I think the people would be better off. Now I am not saying slavery is a good thing, the war was about northern aggression and states rights.

[United Marxist Nations]

I think the people would be better off. Now I am not saying slavery is a good thing, the war was about northern aggression and states rights.

A state's right to what, and Northern aggression against what?

[The-South]

I think the people would be better off. Now I am not saying slavery is a good thing, the war was about northern aggression and states rights.

A state's right to what, and Northern aggression against what?

It was about northern overreach to tell the states what they could do, the slavery issue being one of them. The South then left the union, as they had done with the British when they became tyrannical, and the north declared a war on them. This makes it northern aggression and the north hypocrites.

[United Marxist Nations]

A state's right to what, and Northern aggression against what?

It was about northern overreach to tell the states what they could do, the slavery issue being one of them. The South then left the union, as they had done with the British when they became tyrannical, and the north declared a war on them. This makes it northern aggression and the north hypocrites.

What was it telling them to do? Nothing. It was just trying to limit the spread of Slavery.

[The-South]

It was about northern overreach to tell the states what they could do, the slavery issue being one of them. The South then left the union, as they had done with the British when they became tyrannical, and the north declared a war on them. This makes it northern aggression and the north hypocrites.

What was it telling them to do? Nothing. It was just trying to limit the spread of Slavery.

That's what the problem was. They had no right to limit slavery it was the states choice to make that decision.

[United Marxist Nations]

What was it telling them to do? Nothing. It was just trying to limit the spread of Slavery.

That's what the problem was. They had no right to limit slavery it was the states choice to make that decision.

Slavery isn't a right.

[The-South]

That's what the problem was. They had no right to limit slavery it was the states choice to make that decision.

Slavery isn't a right.

It doesn't matter, it was legal at the time and should have been up to the states to choose.

[The Cobalt Sky]

It would be worse.

Minorities would probably be living in assigned "districts of autonomy" requiring a passbook system just to get to work outside.

On the other hand, if the Confederacy won, things might have not changed at all, save maybe social issues like acceptance of homosexuality being pushed back at least 40 years from the level of acceptance we have now.

Probably more than just 40. I'd say there's a good chance slavery wouldn't end without outside intervention.

[United Marxist Nations]

Slavery isn't a right.

It doesn't matter, it was legal at the time and should have been up to the states to choose.

Then we wouldn't have gotten rid of it for several more decades, and likely many more would have died. It was necessary to get rid of slavery, as it was a horrible institution.

[The Cobalt Sky]

Slavery isn't a right.

It doesn't matter, it was legal at the time and should have been up to the states to choose.

No. I think you're blinded by this whole state's rights thing. People shouldn't have had that right to begin with. All across the board. Check yourself.

[Pantokrators]

I actually think that overtime, the Confederacy if it survived all the shit that would happen after they won, would be able to become like the North, although it would take a long time. Centuries in a worst case scenario

If the Confederacy it would probably be like Brasil today. A big intermixed population.

[Lancaster of Wessex]

Slavery isn't a right.

It doesn't matter, it was legal at the time and should have been up to the states to choose.

The Federal government disagreed. They had the right to legislate on the matter, and people who wanted to oppress a helpless minority and preserve their wealth - the landed plantation owners and those in government - got pissy about it.

I love the revisionist argument stating slavery had nothing to do with the Civil War. It became a war to stop secession and slavery became a focal point, as it was prior, but especially so with the emancipation proclamation.

[Seangoli]

A state's right to what, and Northern aggression against what?

It was about northern overreach to tell the states what they could do, the slavery issue being one of them. The South then left the union, as they had done with the British when they became tyrannical, and the north declared a war on them. This makes it northern aggression and the north hypocrites.

Do you know what the first battle of the civil war was? The Battle of Fort Sumter, started by the bloody Confederates attacking a Union fort on April 12th, 1861. The concept of "Northern Aggression" falls completely apart when the very first shots fired were by the south directed at a Union fort. The Confederates were the first aggressors in the war. Anything else is pure apologism and historical revisionism.

[The Cobalt Sky]

I think the people would be better off. Now I am not saying slavery is a good thing, the war was about northern aggression and states rights.

That completely ignores slavery continuing.

[Pantokrators]

I think the people would be better off. Now I am not saying slavery is a good thing, the war was about northern aggression and states rights.

A state's right to what, and Northern aggression against what?

It was about that the Southernes considered themself to be a nation on its own so they wanted selfdetermination.