What are your thoughts on Atheism?

[New Socialist South Africa]

According to a poll we are just slightly less hated than Muslims in the USA.

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/21/the_numbers_are_in_america_still_distrusts_atheists_and_muslims_partner/

The study I saw on secular talk says we are about the same with Muslims except Muslims are hated slightly less.

Ya I heard something along those lines on The Young Turks, this is just what this poll states.

[Infected Mushroom]

i suppose...

Great, because I have literally never met a Gnostic Atheist. The vast majority of us are Agnostic Atheists.

really?

They are over-represented on my campus' scientific faculties.

[The Smith Protectorate]

and the greeks?, the flat world was a play on words and you didn't Google globus cruciger and your last number was very ignorant, citation for OP?! no. so please don't contradict, it's a discussion not a bash.

The Greeks did not live in mesopatamia at the time the Old Testament was written.
The areas in which it was written suffered from many unpredictable floods, and the way it was written, the writers of the bible viewed the world as if it was a flat world with a firmament sky, witha dome shape, because that's how it looks. Like we're inside a really really big snow globe is how they described it.

I'm not talking about genesis's origins, I'm talking about peoples belief for the past 2 millennia on the fact that the world is not flat. stop changing the subject. People did not believe the world was flat. It was made up by
John William Draper 1811–1882 in his book 'History of the Conflict between Religion and Science' (1874). And the Greek concepts of a spherical world are not solely contained in Greece they were wide spread across the globe. ^_^

[Creepoc Infinite]

i suppose...

Great, because I have literally never met a Gnostic Atheist. The vast majority of us are Agnostic Atheists.

I am both. I believe we can definitively say that all the religions are wrong.

[Infected Mushroom]

Great, because I have literally never met a Gnostic Atheist. The vast majority of us are Agnostic Atheists.

I am both. I believe we can definitively say that all the religions are wrong.

... HOW

[Creepoc Infinite]

The Greeks did not live in mesopatamia at the time the Old Testament was written.
The areas in which it was written suffered from many unpredictable floods, and the way it was written, the writers of the bible viewed the world as if it was a flat world with a firmament sky, witha dome shape, because that's how it looks. Like we're inside a really really big snow globe is how they described it.

I'm not talking about genesis's origins, I'm talking about peoples belief for the past 2 millennia on the fact that the world is not flat. stop changing the subject. People did not believe the world was flat it was made up by
John William Draper 1811–1882 in his book 'History of the Conflict between Religion and Science' (1874). And the Greek concepts of a spherical world are not solely contained in Greece they were wide spread across the globe. ^_^

I don't really think it matters. They are not right no matter what.

[New Socialist South Africa]

Great, because I have literally never met a Gnostic Atheist. The vast majority of us are Agnostic Atheists.

really?

They are over-represented on my campus' scientific faculties.

That's strange. Ask them if there was a way to literally, scientifically prove that god existed they would believe in god. If the answer is yes they are Agnostic Atheists. If the answer is no then they aren't very good scientists and are Gnostic Atheists.

[Paid To Troll]

Great, because I have literally never met a Gnostic Atheist. The vast majority of us are Agnostic Atheists.

I am both. I believe we can definitively say that all the religions are wrong.

[Creepoc Infinite]

I am both. I believe we can definitively say that all the religions are wrong.

... HOW

My position on Deist god: I am agnostic atheist
My position on personal gods: they are all obviously bullshit, and are false. I am gnostic atheist.

[New Socialist South Africa]

Great, because I have literally never met a Gnostic Atheist. The vast majority of us are Agnostic Atheists.

I am both. I believe we can definitively say that all the religions are wrong.

How can you both be absolutely certain that god does not exist, and not believe in any god but not be certain that one or more actually do exist?

[Creepoc Infinite]

I am both. I believe we can definitively say that all the religions are wrong.

How can you both be absolutely certain that god does not exist, and not believe in any god but not be certain that one or more actually do exist?

Because I am agnostic in regards to deism
But I know the religions are all bullshit. or I'm at least very very sure.

[The Smith Protectorate]

I'm not talking about genesis's origins, I'm talking about peoples belief for the past 2 millennia on the fact that the world is not flat. stop changing the subject. People did not believe the world was flat it was made up by
John William Draper 1811–1882 in his book 'History of the Conflict between Religion and Science' (1874). And the Greek concepts of a spherical world are not solely contained in Greece they were wide spread across the globe. ^_^

I don't really think it matters. They are not right no matter what.

wow, I wouldn't have thought you'd be so... ignorant. A man of atheism, the 'obvious definition for forward thinking and creativity. here being a total fool in the face of truth- I thought your point was that atheists are the future. in your case your not even as bad as Christians of old, your worse. they did not believe the world was flat. change the OP.

[New Socialist South Africa]

... HOW

My position on Deist god: I am agnostic atheist
My position on personal gods: they are all obviously bullshit, and are false. I am gnostic atheist.

Theoretically, what if there were substantial and scientific evidence of a personal god? Would you believe in one of those then?

[New Socialist South Africa]

How can you both be absolutely certain that god does not exist, and not believe in any god but not be certain that one or more actually do exist?

Because I am agnostic in regards to deism
But I know the religions are all bullshit. or I'm at least very very sure.

Theoretically, what if there were substantial and scientific evidence of a personal god? Would you believe in one of those then?

[Creepoc Infinite]

I don't really think it matters. They are not right no matter what.

wow, I wouldn't have thought you'd be so... ignorant. A man of atheism, the 'obvious definition for forward thinking and creativity. here being a total fool in the face of truth- I thought your point was that atheists are the future. in your case your not even as bad as Christians of old, your worse. they did not believe the world was flat. change the OP.

This topic is irrelevant. Christians are WRONG Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! No way that bipulkshit religion can be true, not after what I went through.

[Creepoc Infinite]

Because I am agnostic in regards to deism
But I know the religions are all bullshit. or I'm at least very very sure.

Theoretically, what if there were substantial and scientific evidence of a personal god? Would you believe in one of those then?

Probably, but that's not gonna happen

[Big Jim P]

I am both. I believe we can definitively say that all the religions are wrong.

How can you both be absolutely certain that god does not exist, and not believe in any god but not be certain that one or more actually do exist?

There is no certainty that god (any god) does not exist, however, with there being no evidence of their existence, it is a pretty safe assumption that they do not.

[Reverend Norv]

wow, I wouldn't have thought you'd be so... ignorant. A man of atheism, the 'obvious definition for forward thinking and creativity. here being a total fool in the face of truth- I thought your point was that atheists are the future. in your case your not even as bad as Christians of old, your worse. they did not believe the world was flat. change the OP.

This topic is irrelevant. Christians are WRONG Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! No way that bipulkshit religion can be true, not after what I went through.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what true faith looks like.

[New Socialist South Africa]

Theoretically, what if there were substantial and scientific evidence of a personal god? Would you believe in one of those then?

Probably, but that's not gonna happen

Then you're still just an Agnostic Atheist. I agree it is incredibly unlikely that that would ever happen though.

[The Smith Protectorate]

wow, I wouldn't have thought you'd be so... ignorant. A man of atheism, the 'obvious definition for forward thinking and creativity. here being a total fool in the face of truth- I thought your point was that atheists are the future. in your case your not even as bad as Christians of old, your worse. they did not believe the world was flat. change the OP.

This topic is irrelevant. Christians are WRONG Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!! No way that bipulkshit religion can be true, not after what I went through.

Sorry.

[Creepoc Infinite]

Probably, but that's not gonna happen

Then you're still just an Agnostic Atheist. I agree it is incredibly unlikely that that would ever happen though.

No. Hypothetically speaking if they DID have substantial evidence, I probably would. But they don't and it's not gonna happen.

[New Socialist South Africa]

How can you both be absolutely certain that god does not exist, and not believe in any god but not be certain that one or more actually do exist?

There is no certainty that god (any god) does not exist, however, with there being no evidence of their existence, it is a pretty safe assumption that they do not.

Ya I know. That's why I'm an Agnostic Atheist. It is just that Creepoc Infinite stated he was both a Gnostic Atheist and an Agnostic Atheist, which is logically impossible.

[Creepoc Infinite]

There is no certainty that god (any god) does not exist, however, with there being no evidence of their existence, it is a pretty safe assumption that they do not.

Ya I know. That's why I'm an Agnostic Atheist. It is just that Creepoc Infinite stated he was both a Gnostic Atheist and an Agnostic Atheist, which is logically impossible.

It is when I am talking about a more nuanced position of being agnostic towards deist god and knowing religions are bullshit.

[New Socialist South Africa]

Then you're still just an Agnostic Atheist. I agree it is incredibly unlikely that that would ever happen though.

No. Hypothetically speaking if they DID have substantial evidence, I probably would. But they don't and it's not gonna happen.

No you're wrong. Just because some thought experiments can't exist in our world or probably won't, they apply regardless of this.

You stated that IF scientific evidence were presented to you proving the existence of a personal god, something that will almost certainly never happen, you would, probably, accept it as true. Thus you are an Agnostic Atheist.

[ESTU]

It's a depressing philosophy that offers no value to my life, nor any reason to continue living. For me to convert from comfortable deism would take evidence that directly contradicts the existence of god.

It doesn't have to offer you value because atheism doesn't offer anything but a more open mind.
(In regards to science and evidence)
There is no evidence that directly contradicts a deist god. May I ask why you waste your time believing in something if there's no reason for you to? And that's not supported by science?

Are you implying that as a deist, I can't have an open mind? I'm perfectly willing to admit that the atheists might be right in their claims. It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. As you yourself admitted however, there is no evidence that directly contradicts the existence of a god or gods (depending on how you want to define "god", which for me can be crudely explained as an entity that exists outside the limits of the knowable universe, but is capable of interacting with the knowable universe). Therefore I choose to go with the philosophy that is most appealing to me and adds value to my life. The manifestation of such entities would prove that there exists a reality that is bigger than our own and the possibility a certain existence after death or at the very least knowledge of what happens to us after death. I would like to think I would continue living in some desirable form and unite again with lost friends and family rather than just cease to exist. This is where the value lies. It offers a hope that atheism does not. It may not be supported by science, but neither is atheism. So to each man his own. You may consider it a waste of time, but I do not.