What are your thoughts on Atheism?

[MERIZoC]

but logic can: http://godisimaginary.com/

Its logical to assume that God exists.

In what way?

[Crysuko]

*facedesk*

read the site.

By the title I can assune its highly biased. Soooooo ill not waste my time with it.

that's pretty weak reasoning. if we all went by like that then every single argument would grind to a halt because you could just stick "biased" on it and not actually do anything.

don't make excuses, read it.

[Megali Helles]

Can you offer substantive proof of this claim?

... Of disorganized, multiple conspiracies?

Here's a list of 4 televangelists caught and imprisoned for fraud. Popoff, in particular, has been apprehended more than twice for defrauding his followers.

I see. So shall i assume that, given the similar "liberties" governing officials have taken with tax payer money, government too represents a vile conspiracy against the masses?

Or football officials? Is America n football a conspiracy?

Or school teachers? Is education a conspiracy?

[Vazdaria]

By the title I can assune its highly biased. Soooooo ill not waste my time with it.

that's pretty weak reasoning. if we all went by like that then every single argument would grind to a halt because you could just stick "biased" on it and not actually do anything.

don't make excuses, read it.

Post it then, I'm not going to read through a shitload of bullshit.

[Crysuko]

... Of disorganized, multiple conspiracies?

Here's a list of 4 televangelists caught and imprisoned for fraud. Popoff, in particular, has been apprehended more than twice for defrauding his followers.

I see. So shall i assume that, given the similar "liberties" governing officials have taken with tax payer money, government too represents a vile conspiracy against the masses?

Or football officials? Is America. Football a conspiracy?

Or school teachers? Is education a conspiracy?

does the government make it a business of feeding such gross misinformation and lies to those who follow it?

[Big Jim P]

but logic can: http://godisimaginary.com/

Its logical to assume that God exists.

It is not logical to assume anything without evidence.

[The Smith Protectorate]

.... are lizard people real too?

Ah well so you claim that lizards have religious beliefs

anyways I feel debating your beliefs and I am in fact delighted you have them

P.T. Barnum was a business man... to him everyone is a sucker.

[Crysuko]

that's pretty weak reasoning. if we all went by like that then every single argument would grind to a halt because you could just stick "biased" on it and not actually do anything.

don't make excuses, read it.

Post it then, I'm not going to read through a shitload of bullshit.

i'm not spoonfeeding it to you, this is called having an open mind and doing your own research. humour it.

[Megali Helles]

I see. So shall i assume that, given the similar "liberties" governing officials have taken with tax payer money, government too represents a vile conspiracy against the masses?

Or football officials? Is America. Football a conspiracy?

Or school teachers? Is education a conspiracy?

does the government make it a business of feeding such gross misinformation and lies to those who follow it?

I wonder. Obviously Rich believes it so. Since 4 televangelists are indicative of a centuries long multifaceted conspiracy.

[Crysuko]

does the government make it a business of feeding such gross misinformation and lies to those who follow it?

I wonder. Obviously Rich believes it so. Since 4 televangelists are indicative of a centuries long multifaceted conspiracy.

let's not forget the suppression of those who spoke against them, that clearly never happened.

[Vazdaria]

Its logical to assume that God exists.

It is not logical to assume anything without evidence.

The skeptical view is absolutely insane and illogical. You would need proof that Zimbabwe exists! Or some other country. All of the maps could be lying you know

[Megali Helles]

Its logical to assume that God exists.

It is not logical to assume anything without evidence.

Jim. You know that the existence of God is something that must be deduced rather than empirically verified. The entire discipline of theology is a testament to this fact.

[Megali Helles]

I wonder. Obviously Rich believes it so. Since 4 televangelists are indicative of a centuries long multifaceted conspiracy.

let's not forget the suppression of those who spoke against them, that clearly never happened.

Clearly never happened in the case of government either, did it?

[Crysuko]

It is not logical to assume anything without evidence.

Jim. You know that the existence of God is something that must be deduced rather than empirically verified. The entire discipline of theology is a testament to this fact.

so basically: theology exists, therefore god.

BRILLIANT.

maple syrup exists, therefore pancakes exist
wood exists, therefore ents exist
snot exists, therefore the bogeyman exists

[Albyria]

My problem: there is no definitive proof that any God exists. The only argument I have ever heard is "it says so in the bible!" How do we know the bible wasn't written as a cool fiction story by a group of people a few thousand years ago? at the time, people who believed in the bible were viewed with extreme suspicion for their, at that time, revolutionary beliefs.

[Big Jim P]

It is not logical to assume anything without evidence.

Jim. You know that the existence of God is something that must be deduced rather than empirically verified. The entire discipline of theology is a testament to this fact.

Deduction requires some evidential starting point, something that is still lacking.

[Luminous Mount]

There is no god. You believe there is god? Well, I don't care.

~~Atheist

You believe there is god, you're idiot, hahaha!!!!!111oneoneone

~~Moron (wants to be trendy)

[Crysuko]

let's not forget the suppression of those who spoke against them, that clearly never happened.

Clearly never happened in the case of government either, did it?

the modern government hasn't executed people (publically, anyway) for showing the least bit of dissent.

[Megali Helles]

Jim. You know that the existence of God is something that must be deduced rather than empirically verified. The entire discipline of theology is a testament to this fact.

so basically: theology exists, therefore god.

BRILLIANT.

maple syrup exists, therefore pancakes exist
wood exists, therefore ents exist
snot exists, therefore the bogeyman exists

.... what? Thats non sequitur. I didnt suggest that. I specifically pointed out that logical deductions about God exist because theology is the discipline in which such deductions are made.

[Megali Helles]

Clearly never happened in the case of government either, did it?

the modern government hasn't executed people (publically, anyway) for showing the least bit of dissent.

Has the modern evangelist?

[Megali Helles]

Jim. You know that the existence of God is something that must be deduced rather than empirically verified. The entire discipline of theology is a testament to this fact.

Deduction requires some evidential starting point, something that is still lacking.

Indeed. A starting point that necessitates a consensus about valid information pertaining. Something theology resolutely conforms to.

[Crysuko]

so basically: theology exists, therefore god.

BRILLIANT.

maple syrup exists, therefore pancakes exist
wood exists, therefore ents exist
snot exists, therefore the bogeyman exists

.... what? Thats non sequitur. I didnt suggest that. I specifically pointed out that logical deductions about God exist because theology is the discipline in which such deductions are made.

i'm emulating such the logic you used, knowingly or not.

[Crysuko]

the modern government hasn't executed people (publically, anyway) for showing the least bit of dissent.

Has the modern evangelist?

no, but they accuse and lie fit to burst so I wouldn't be surprised if at least one was tied to a murder

[Creepoc Infinite]

It is not logical to assume anything without evidence.

The skeptical view is absolutely insane and illogical. You would need proof that Zimbabwe exists! Or some other country. All of the maps could be lying you know

Skepticism is not an automatic "No that's bullshit!" switch.

Skepticism is when you want to find out what is true and what is not. So you observe and study the evidence and come To a conclusion from that. The proof that Zombabwe exists is that there are people from there, pictures of Zimbabwe, it's on the map, there are likely people who study the culture of Zimbabwe. Another proof of Zombabwe is that you can actually GO there

[Creepoc Infinite]

so basically: theology exists, therefore god.

BRILLIANT.

maple syrup exists, therefore pancakes exist
wood exists, therefore ents exist
snot exists, therefore the bogeyman exists

.... what? Thats non sequitur. I didnt suggest that. I specifically pointed out that logical deductions about God exist because theology is the discipline in which such deductions are made.

Regardless, the reason theologians don't have reliable evidence that god exists is because they start off with "God Exists" and then pick and choose what pieces of information support their confirmations bias and then publish those as evidence.