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by Dyakovo » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:29 am

by The Alma Mater » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:35 am

by Mavorpen » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:41 am
Arkolon wrote:I don't remember the Christian God ever saying "oh, wait, nah, actually you guys can come to".

by Vecherd » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:43 am

by Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:45 am

by Ashmoria » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:55 am
Mavorpen wrote:Arkolon wrote:I don't remember the Christian God ever saying "oh, wait, nah, actually you guys can come to".
I don't remember it saying that Hell even exists on the first place. And there are Christians who also don't either, and who, instead, argue that rather than Hell, you're simply not taken into Heaven and cease to exist. There is no active punishment, but there is one in the sense that you are kept away from God.
The existence of Hell, even within the scope of Christianity, is another assumption that is disputed, even by fellow Christians. With such blatant problems with Pascal's Wager, I sincerely cannot comprehend the mental gymnastics required to sincerely argue it's a legitimate argument.

by The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:57 am
Ashmoria wrote:Mavorpen wrote:I don't remember it saying that Hell even exists on the first place. And there are Christians who also don't either, and who, instead, argue that rather than Hell, you're simply not taken into Heaven and cease to exist. There is no active punishment, but there is one in the sense that you are kept away from God.
The existence of Hell, even within the scope of Christianity, is another assumption that is disputed, even by fellow Christians. With such blatant problems with Pascal's Wager, I sincerely cannot comprehend the mental gymnastics required to sincerely argue it's a legitimate argument.
didn't the pope recently suggest that righteous atheists can go to heaven?

by WestRedMaple » Sun Nov 16, 2014 9:59 am

by Galloism » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:00 am

by The Alma Mater » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:00 am

by Esternial » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:02 am
Galloism wrote:I really lack sufficient levels of faith to be an atheist.
Of course, I have the benefit of thousands of years of life experience to look back on. The mortals lack such hindsight.

by Dyakovo » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:05 am
Galloism wrote:I really lack sufficient levels of faith to be an atheist.

by Galloism » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:08 am

by The Union of Tentacles and Grapes » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:11 am
Galloism wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Being an atheist doesn't require any faith at all.
Yes, yes it does - a lot more faith than I have.
As science has advanced over the millennia, particularly in the last couple hundred years, the harder it is for me to reconcile the universal structure of things with the lack of some sort of deity.

by Dyakovo » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:12 am
by Zottistan » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:12 am
Galloism wrote:Dyakovo wrote:Being an atheist doesn't require any faith at all.
Yes, yes it does - a lot more faith than I have.
As science has advanced over the millennia, particularly in the last couple hundred years, the harder it is for me to reconcile the universal structure of things with the lack of some sort of deity.

by Galloism » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:14 am
The Union of Tentacles and Grapes wrote:Galloism wrote:Yes, yes it does - a lot more faith than I have.
As science has advanced over the millennia, particularly in the last couple hundred years, the harder it is for me to reconcile the universal structure of things with the lack of some sort of deity.
I was unaware that today was opposite day.
Something for the occaision.

by Galloism » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:16 am

by Dyakovo » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:18 am

by Galloism » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:18 am
Zottistan wrote:Galloism wrote:Yes, yes it does - a lot more faith than I have.
As science has advanced over the millennia, particularly in the last couple hundred years, the harder it is for me to reconcile the universal structure of things with the lack of some sort of deity.
http://www.bitstorm.org/gameoflife/
This is relevant if your issue is drawing complexity from simplicity.

by The Alma Mater » Sun Nov 16, 2014 10:18 am
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