Conscentia wrote:The Archregimancy wrote:
This is a genuine question, and not an attempt on my part to be snarky or sarcastic.
Where did the above model originate?
I'm genuinely curious since it's something I only became aware of relatively recently. I concede that the the fact that I didn't know about it until the last 5 years or so doesn't mean it hasn't been around for a while, which is one of the reasons I'm asking - but if it is relatively recent in origin, then I'm struck by the extent to which people in this forum increasingly offer what appears to be a fairly new philosophical model as incontestable fact.
A quick check of these forums suggests it wasn't necessarily the default position to take when the current forums came online. There are early threads from these forums (in 2009) discussing definitions of agnosticism without necessarily defaulting to discussion of that model. Towards the end of 2009, the model is becoming more common - though some committed atheists are still offering their own alternative models for discussion - and by 2010 it tends to be the default model in debate of the topic.
NationStates is not the world, of course, but this 2009 atheist blog post also suggests that the model is fairly new as these things go (the link to what it suggests is the original source of the categorisation is, alas, broken), and was still finding its feet as a go-to default definition in late 2009.
I genuinely welcome clarification.
I never knew people ever thought otherwise.
The etymology of the terms suggests to me that the "model" has been the case since "agnostic" was coined.
I actually always thought agnosticism was a stand on its own, not a subset of a stand, before arriving into NS.
