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Would you be comfortable with a polyamory

Yes, I've been in or currently am in a poly relationship and like it
10
5%
Yes, I'd like to be in a poly relationship
32
16%
Probably, but I'm not sure
24
12%
I don't know
6
3%
Probably not, but I'm not sure
12
6%
No, I've been in a poly relationship and it was t for me
3
2%
No, but I don't mind those who have them
61
31%
No, I disagree with poly relations
47
24%
 
Total votes : 195

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:54 am

Manisdog wrote:Our brain's dont evolve as fast as your societies

Yes, they evolve much faster. By reading or by socializing. Do you even know what are you talking about?

Please learn to respect the dead and stop making all deceased sociologists, anthropologists and brain scientists roll on their graves. I'm absolutely an amateur to the subject and even to me it feels like a slap on the face from how lacking in accuracy your opinion is.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:55 am

Manisdog wrote:
Corrian wrote:Yeah, and that sounds like a load of crap. Infringing on people who are different is what tends to cause unhappiness...


women need a strong man, they would just get unhappy sleeping with so many men

I wish I could slap you on behalf of all women. You certainly deserve it.
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Postby Rushtar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:56 am

Maybe it would be easier it you are bisexual. Maybe you wouldn't feel comfortable having in the relationship a gender that you aren't attracted to.

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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:57 am

Rushtar wrote:Probably yes, but not sure. Maybe depends if all the people who are in polyamory are opposed to my gender. I think that's something that a lot of people would mind.
What do you mean "opposed to your gender".
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Tell that to the rest of the world. Only one person has ever admitted to having a crush on me: a guy on these forums. Hell, none of my real life "friends" even so much as bothered to wish me a happy birthday two months ago. So it's clear that no one really cares much about me.
Absolutely ridiculous. There are people who care about you. I don't see you often on here any more but I always look forward to seeing your posts and have greatly missed seeing you as much as a used to. Hell, I had a crush on you at one point. You're a very likable person.
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Corrian wrote:Yeah, and that sounds like a load of crap. Infringing on people who are different is what tends to cause unhappiness...


women need a strong man, they would just get unhappy sleeping with so many men
Fuck that sexist garbage. I'm happy with the strong woman I'm dating, and I've been happy working towards being a strong woman. If I find a strong man that I'm interested in, then I might pursue him, but otherwise I'm perfectly content not dating a man.
Meridiani Planum wrote:I'm...skeptical as far as the value of poly relations go. It seems to me that this geometrically multiplies the complexity of one's relationships for each added member. Plus, I'm worried about the social consequences of having an imbalance in the male-female ratio of available partners.

Still, I suspect that polyamory could possibly be a natural variation in sexual orientation, much like homosexuality and bisexuality. So, I am somewhat tolerant of its existence, especially if it remains a fringe phenomenon.

As for me, polyamory is definitely not what I would be comfortable with emotionally. I need a little more romantic focus and exclusivity. You might think this unfair, but polyamory comes across as shallow to me.
The imbalance of partners would only be a major issue if polyamory were the social norm. That isn't the case so it's a non-issue. There is a reason monogamy is so dominant, and while cultural is largely to blame, most people just would function better in monogamous relationships. I'm not proposing that polyamory should become the new norm or that it's the perfect relationship, simply that it's the best form of relationship for me and that there is a decent amount of people who share my sentiments on the matter.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:59 am

Rushtar wrote:Maybe it would be easier it you are bisexual. Maybe you wouldn't feel comfortable having in the relationship a gender that you aren't attracted to.

As a bi-pan person, this makes 0000% sense.

What's so different between us and you other than the fact that we have a more varied continuum when it comes to sexual attraction?
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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:59 am

Rushtar wrote:Maybe it would be easier it you are bisexual. Maybe you wouldn't feel comfortable having in the relationship a gender that you aren't attracted to.

I have a bit of a belief that we are all bisexual on some level or other.
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Postby Rushtar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:01 am

Threlizdun wrote:
Rushtar wrote:Probably yes, but not sure. Maybe depends if all the people who are in polyamory are opposed to my gender. I think that's something that a lot of people would mind.
What do you mean "opposed to your gender".


I mean, that if I'm male heterosexual, opposed to my gender are girls, and that maybe they have to be all girls, I think that this is important for some people, this would be solved if bisexuality.

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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:02 am

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Postby Rushtar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:02 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Rushtar wrote:Maybe it would be easier it you are bisexual. Maybe you wouldn't feel comfortable having in the relationship a gender that you aren't attracted to.

As a bi-pan person, this makes 0000% sense.

What's so different between us and you other than the fact that we have a more varied continuum when it comes to sexual attraction?


Yes, for you. But not for heterosexual people (some).
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:02 am

Corrian wrote:
Rushtar wrote:Maybe it would be easier it you are bisexual. Maybe you wouldn't feel comfortable having in the relationship a gender that you aren't attracted to.

I have a bit of a belief that we are all bisexual on some level or other.

No, you aren't.

We aren't some enlightened fashionable fad, we have a sexual orientation and a very particular identity around it like any other, plus the struggle of being bi while being immersed in a [x] heterosexist and [x] monosexist society carries.

Saying this is about the same of saying "we are all gay on some level or another" or "we are all hetero on some level or another".
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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:03 am

Threlizdun wrote:
Olthar wrote:Tell that to the rest of the world. Only one person has ever admitted to having a crush on me: a guy on these forums. Hell, none of my real life "friends" even so much as bothered to wish me a happy birthday two months ago. So it's clear that no one really cares much about me.
Absolutely ridiculous. There are people who care about you. I don't see you often on here any more but I always look forward to seeing your posts and have greatly missed seeing you as much as a used to. Hell, I had a crush on you at one point. You're a very likable person.

Hooray! The number of people in the entire world who have crushed on me has been doubled!
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:05 am

Rushtar wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:What do you mean "opposed to your gender".


I mean, that if I'm male heterosexual, opposed to my gender are girls, and that maybe they have to be all girls, I think that this is important for some people, this would be solved if bisexuality.
Well, you obviously wouldn't be dating someone you aren't attracted to. Just because your partner is involved with someone doesn't mean you have to be involved with them as well. It's certainly possible to do that, but it's by no means necessary.
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Postby Meryuma » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:06 am

I'd be open to a poly relationship but I've never been in one.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:07 am

Corrian wrote:
Rushtar wrote:Maybe it would be easier it you are bisexual. Maybe you wouldn't feel comfortable having in the relationship a gender that you aren't attracted to.

I have a bit of a belief that we are all bisexual on some level or other.

No. The thought of being with a guy disgusts me. Like, if I think about too long, I actually get nauseated. Not everyone is bi. There are, in fact, people who only like one gender.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:08 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Corrian wrote:I have a bit of a belief that we are all bisexual on some level or other.

No, you aren't.

We aren't some enlightened fashionable fad, we have a sexual orientation and a very particular identity around it like any other, plus the struggle of being bi while being immersed in a [x] heterosexist and [x] monosexist society carries.

Saying this is about the same of saying "we are all gay on some level or another" or "we are all hetero on some level or another".

Eh, I dunno. But that's probably a topic for somewhere else.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:08 am

Olthar wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:Absolutely ridiculous. There are people who care about you. I don't see you often on here any more but I always look forward to seeing your posts and have greatly missed seeing you as much as a used to. Hell, I had a crush on you at one point. You're a very likable person.

Hooray! The number of people in the entire world who have crushed on me has been doubled!
I wouldn't be surprised if others did before, or do right now for that matter. I didn't know how to express it at the time, so I didn't say anything. Most of the people on this forum are introverted and rather shy, so it seems likely that many of them wouldn't know how to approach someone they were attracted to online.
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Postby Rushtar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:11 am

There are some male heterosexuals that like both girls and pre-op trans girls, I think it's not only penis or cunt, more a matter of aspect.
If you are heterosexual, would you date with a male looking (hormoned) with a vagina or would you date with a female looking (hormoned) with a penis? I asked to some people and they in almost of the cases chose the second one, being heterosexual males.

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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:14 am

Threlizdun wrote:
Olthar wrote:Hooray! The number of people in the entire world who have crushed on me has been doubled!
I wouldn't be surprised if others did before, or do right now for that matter. I didn't know how to express it at the time, so I didn't say anything. Most of the people on this forum are introverted and rather shy, so it seems likely that many of them wouldn't know how to approach someone they were attracted to online.

Yeah, but in the end, you're all still just text on a screen. No offense, but it just doesn't matter much if no one in the real world likes me. It's hard to date someone halfway across the globe.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:14 am

Rushtar wrote:There are some male heterosexuals that like both girls cis girls and pre-op trans girls without offensive cissexist genitalization the latter group, I think it's not only penis or cunt vulva, more a matter of aspect.

Fixed.

I guess I understand Olthar at times. God, could you please be more delicate with your wording at least when around trans people?
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Postby Sinas » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:14 am

It is an interesting point that many can't understand polygamous relationships or that they could be in love, for the record I'm in a long term monogamous relationship and plan to stay that way, but I can understand and support anyone wanting to engage in a polygamous relationship, and I'm sure they could have a loving relationship just like mine :)
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:16 am

Olthar wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if others did before, or do right now for that matter. I didn't know how to express it at the time, so I didn't say anything. Most of the people on this forum are introverted and rather shy, so it seems likely that many of them wouldn't know how to approach someone they were attracted to online.

Yeah, but in the end, you're all still just text on a screen. No offense, but it just doesn't matter much if no one in the real world likes me. It's hard to date someone halfway across the globe.
You never know how close someone could be. And if you can get people halfway across the world to start crushing over you, I would imagine you're capable of doing the same to people who see you in person.
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Postby Rushtar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:18 am

Rushtar wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Fixed.

I guess I understand Olthar at times. God, could you please be more delicate with your wording at least when around trans people?


I'm not English and I don't talk with them about that, so is normal that this type of things happen, I'm not used to. I didn't want to offend, the words have the bad connotatives that the people give them.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:20 am

Olthar wrote:Yeah, but in the end, you're all still just text on a screen. No offense, but it just doesn't matter much if no one in the real world likes me. It's hard to date someone halfway across the globe.


You have to put yourself out there and meet other women. I know I haven't gotten anywhere precisely because I have an extremely limited social circle.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 2:21 am

Rushtar wrote:I'm not English and I don't talk with them about that, so is normal that this type of things happens, I'm not used to. I didn't want to offend, the words have the bad connotatives that the people give them.

It isn't a matter of opinion.

Genitalization of trans people is oppression.

People aren't objects for cishet males to pick whatever fits their taste from a supermarket gondola, and you shouldn't qualify transgenderness without also marking cisgenderness, because it comes off as de-legitimization of people's gender.

It's also not about language, I speak Portuguese as native language and expect the same standards of other Lusophones.

Now you know it.
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