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Would you be comfortable with a polyamory

Yes, I've been in or currently am in a poly relationship and like it
10
5%
Yes, I'd like to be in a poly relationship
32
16%
Probably, but I'm not sure
24
12%
I don't know
6
3%
Probably not, but I'm not sure
12
6%
No, I've been in a poly relationship and it was t for me
3
2%
No, but I don't mind those who have them
61
31%
No, I disagree with poly relations
47
24%
 
Total votes : 195

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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:36 am

Crap, forgot to add an option for people who knew they wouldn't personally be comfortable with polyamory but are fine with those who are. Edited.
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Postby Manisdog » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:36 am

Olthar wrote:No. I don't care to go into the details, but my childhood has left me with abandonment issues and way too much insecurity. If someone ever agrees to date me (an unlikely occurrence), she would have to be a one woman girl. If she ever cheated on me, I'd probably snap and attempt suicide. I absolutely would not be able to handle polyamory. It would destroy me.


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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:37 am

Manisdog wrote:Such a thing would be a breeding ground promiscuity, I mean imagine what would happen we would be creating like a generation of sluts like what happened in the 1960's, if anything we need enforce that such kind of relationships are not socially acceptable

Ah, slut shaming. A great way to make a point...

Manisdog wrote:society does, the norms, traditions and cultures of a society, and the beliefs of majority of the populace

Screw the norm. Normal is boring. Embrace the different!
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Postby Manisdog » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:38 am

Corrian wrote:
Manisdog wrote:Such a thing would be a breeding ground promiscuity, I mean imagine what would happen we would be creating like a generation of sluts like what happened in the 1960's, if anything we need enforce that such kind of relationships are not socially acceptable

Ah, slut shaming. A great way to make a point...

Manisdog wrote:society does, the norms, traditions and cultures of a society, and the beliefs of majority of the populace

Screw the norm. Normal is boring. Embrace the different!


Well no, it would just be a cesspool for disease, adultery and unhappiness

and norms are needed to keep society functioning
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Postby Rushtar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:38 am

Probably yes, but not sure. Maybe depends if all the people who are in polyamory are opposed to my gender. I think that's something that a lot of people would mind.

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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:38 am

Manisdog wrote:Well no, it would just be a cesspool for disease, adultery and unhappiness

Yeah, and that sounds like a load of crap. Infringing on people who are different is what tends to cause unhappiness...
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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:40 am

Manisdog wrote:and norms are needed to keep society functioning

Bleh. In some regard, sure, like laws, but I disagree. Making these "normal" standards causes more problems in every environment than good.
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Postby Olthar » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:40 am

Threlizdun wrote:
Olthar wrote:No. I don't care to go into the details, but my childhood has left me with abandonment issues and way too much insecurity. If someone ever agrees to date me (an unlikely occurrence), she would have to be a one woman girl. If she ever cheated on me, I'd probably snap and attempt suicide. I absolutely would not be able to handle polyamory. It would destroy me.
:hug: I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. Please don't sell yourself short though. Anyone would be lucky to have our Lesbian Queen.

Tell that to the rest of the world. Only one person has ever admitted to having a crush on me: a guy on these forums. Hell, none of my real life "friends" even so much as bothered to wish me a happy birthday two months ago. So it's clear that no one really cares much about me.
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Postby Manisdog » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:41 am

Corrian wrote:
Manisdog wrote:Well no, it would just be a cesspool for disease, adultery and unhappiness

Yeah, and that sounds like a load of crap. Infringing on people who are different is what tends to cause unhappiness...


women need a strong man, they would just get unhappy sleeping with so many men

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Postby Meridiani Planum » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:41 am

I'm...skeptical as far as the value of poly relations go. It seems to me that this geometrically multiplies the complexity of one's relationships for each added member. Plus, I'm worried about the social consequences of having an imbalance in the male-female ratio of available partners.

Still, I suspect that polyamory could possibly be a natural variation in sexual orientation, much like homosexuality and bisexuality. So, I am somewhat tolerant of its existence, especially if it remains a fringe phenomenon.

As for me, polyamory is definitely not what I would be comfortable with emotionally. I need a little more romantic focus and exclusivity. You might think this unfair, but polyamory comes across as shallow to me.
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Postby Manisdog » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:41 am

Corrian wrote:
Manisdog wrote:and norms are needed to keep society functioning

Bleh. In some regard, sure, like laws, but I disagree. Making these "normal" standards causes more problems in every environment than good.



Norms govern polite society

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:42 am

Olthar wrote:
Threlizdun wrote: :hug: I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. Please don't sell yourself short though. Anyone would be lucky to have our Lesbian Queen.

Tell that to the rest of the world. Only one person has ever admitted to having a crush on me: a guy on these forums. Hell, none of my real life "friends" even so much as bothered to wish me a happy birthday two months ago. So it's clear that no one really cares much about me.

Hey, I think you are great, and I think if I had you around to talk to, I wouldn't have left school. You are awesome and a kind, smart and fun person. Much like Liz said, there's nothing about you to belittle. :hug:
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:43 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:I am pretty neutral when it comes to the law, and individual institutions for marriage should decide whether they will allow or disallow polygamy. Personally, I wouldn't want to enter a relationship with two people, and it baffles me on how a romantic relationship with more than one person works and how it is sustained.

All of them work differently, just like any relationship. Communication is extremely important though, even more so than in monogamous ones. My girlfriend lives with one of her spouses relatively close by. Her other spouse is involved with someone else and alternates their time between cities, with her saying that they are deeply in love but that they require space at times. She had a boyfriend in a nearby city that she sees rather regularly. I was with her and her husband tonight, have a date with her Thursday, and them she is going to see her boyfriend this weekend. Polyamory takes a hell of a lot of organization and communication, but I would say it is well worth it.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:45 am

Manisdog wrote:women need a strong man, they would just get unhappy sleeping with so many men

"Women" is no magic formula for "second standard of human psyche we all know its needs and working because it comes in a single homogeneous form".

Please grow a little bit of knowledge and sensibility.
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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:45 am

Manisdog wrote:
Corrian wrote:Yeah, and that sounds like a load of crap. Infringing on people who are different is what tends to cause unhappiness...


women need a strong man, they would just get unhappy sleeping with so many men

I probably shouldn't continue this discussion because I have a feeling it won't lead anywhere, but...This sounds like more society stereotypes that need to go away to make a "better" society. And you can't dictate what one others might feel...
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:45 am

Manisdog wrote:Norms govern polite society

If politeness is as you describes it, I'd rather have a war.
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Postby Manisdog » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:47 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Manisdog wrote:women need a strong man, they would just get unhappy sleeping with so many men

"Women" is no magic formula for "second standard of human psyche we all know its needs and working because it comes in a single homogeneous form".

Please grow a little bit of knowledge and sensibility.


they require much more investment in the process of reproduction as they need to rear the child, they would be upset if they catch a man who sleeps with a gazzlion girls because in our primitive heads she would be thinking that the man's resources will be divided among all of the harem.

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:49 am

Manisdog wrote:they require much more investment in the process of reproduction as they need to rear the child, they would be upset if they catch a man who sleeps with a gazzlion girls because in our primitive heads she would be thinking that the man's resources will be divided among all of the harem.

People long left "primitive heads". Urban societies by the 21st century are very different from the savannahs, even if you gave an accurate description of how we were in the Paleolithic, Mesolithic and Upper Neolithic - you did not.
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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:49 am

Threlizdun wrote:
Republic of Coldwater wrote:I am pretty neutral when it comes to the law, and individual institutions for marriage should decide whether they will allow or disallow polygamy. Personally, I wouldn't want to enter a relationship with two people, and it baffles me on how a romantic relationship with more than one person works and how it is sustained.

All of them work differently, just like any relationship. Communication is extremely important though, even more so than in monogamous ones. My girlfriend lives with one of her spouses relatively close by. Her other spouse is involved with someone else and alternates their time between cities, with her saying that they are deeply in love but that they require space at times. She had a boyfriend in a nearby city that she sees rather regularly. I was with her and her husband tonight, have a date with her Thursday, and them she is going to see her boyfriend this weekend. Polyamory takes a hell of a lot of organization and communication, but I would say it is well worth it.

So you, in the end of the day only have a small portion of one's love?

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Postby Ancient Magmia » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:50 am

Meridiani Planum wrote:As for me, polyamory is definitely not what I would be comfortable with emotionally. I need a little more focus and exclusivity.

^This.

That being said, I don't have a problem with polyamory. If it works for some people and they're happy with it, then who am I to say it's somehow wrong?
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Postby Manisdog » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:51 am

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Manisdog wrote:they require much more investment in the process of reproduction as they need to rear the child, they would be upset if they catch a man who sleeps with a gazzlion girls because in our primitive heads she would be thinking that the man's resources will be divided among all of the harem.

People long left "primitive heads". Urban societies by the 21st century are very different from the savannahs, even if you gave an accurate description of how we were in the Paleolithic, Mesolithic and Upper Neolithic - you did not.


Our brain's dont evolve as fast as your societies

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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:51 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:So you, in the end of the day only have a small portion of one's love?

You treat human emotions, care and relationships like a commodity. rofl wtf
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Postby Manisdog » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:52 am

Republic of Coldwater wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:All of them work differently, just like any relationship. Communication is extremely important though, even more so than in monogamous ones. My girlfriend lives with one of her spouses relatively close by. Her other spouse is involved with someone else and alternates their time between cities, with her saying that they are deeply in love but that they require space at times. She had a boyfriend in a nearby city that she sees rather regularly. I was with her and her husband tonight, have a date with her Thursday, and them she is going to see her boyfriend this weekend. Polyamory takes a hell of a lot of organization and communication, but I would say it is well worth it.

So you, in the end of the day only have a small portion of one's love?

he is right

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Postby Corrian » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:52 am

Ancient Magmia wrote:
Meridiani Planum wrote:As for me, polyamory is definitely not what I would be comfortable with emotionally. I need a little more focus and exclusivity.

^This.

That being said, I don't have a problem with polyamory. If it works for some people and they're happy with it, then who am I to say it's somehow wrong?

Since I feel too lazy to go into a real description of my opinion, I'm just gonna agree with this.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Nov 12, 2014 1:53 am

If I was into polygamy in real life, I'd be in it for the "practical" benefits and not because I'm particularly attached to that system. These include the ability to have children at a more rapid rate than can be attained with one woman, or to have more household income pooled together to pay off the rent and other major bills if the men/women living together are all working to put in their fair share.
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