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Postby Cabana » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:10 am

T Roosevelt wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Ah, to be fourteen years old again. Fun fact: the modern Russian government pretty much considers homosexuality to be a typically Western thing, just as Stalin. For a short period the Soviet Union actually had really progressive laws concerning human sexuality, but under the steel reign of Stalin this was quickly replaced with a more conservative approach.

Stalin was less socialist than Vladimir Lenin but he was still a socialist. He wasn't pure evil like Vladimir Lenin but that doesn't excuse his Marxism, his genocides and persecution of Christians that happened when he was the Primer.

Stalin wasn't pure evil but Lenin was?

Are you a shill?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:10 am

Teddy:

First, you claim that Ron Paul didn't support capitalism, because somehow in your mind capitalism isn't called "free enterprise" but rather "state controlled enterprise."

Second, you claim that Ron Paul is a socialist and a Marxist, even though I doubt that he ascribes to Dialectal Materialism. If any of the Marxists here would back me, thanks.

I don't know where you are getting these ideas, but I highly doubt any of them are true.
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Postby Dyakovo » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:11 am

Its a Texas Thing wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Can I have some of what you are having, sir?

I'm seconding this. Teddy, share whatever you're smoking. Sharing is caring.

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:23 am

Atlanticatia wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Prove it.

Because these things will occur far more often without the law. We enacted the law because we had a huge discrimination problem in the US. There needs to be a regulatory framework with strong penalties for businesses and institutions that act in a racist or discriminatory manner. Well-enforced laws can change society's behavior. We can use laws to regulate businesses to make them be inclusive of all groups, as well as use those laws to change society and stamp out discrimination and racism.

Pragia wrote:1. Did you know if you don't let people but stuff from you, you lose profit? Shocking I know.
2. How does allowing vendors to sell as they choose have to do with self-correction. It's allowing companies sovereignty of their assets.
3. Source of Ron Paul liking discrimination.

And yeah, didn't quite phrase right, point is that you aren't a racist if you don't oppose racism.

1. If that were true in the case of discrimination, we wouldn't have passed the law in the first place.
2. Businesses are not entitled to 'sovereignty' if they engage in practices that are discriminatory, encourage institutional racism, or cause social exclusion. The state must regulate these businesses to ensure society is fair and all peoples' rights are protected.
3. Ron Paul doesn't have to like discrimination to be racist. If he knowingly permits discrimination and racism to occur without trying to stop it, when he is able to, then he's being racist.


Don't tolerate intolerance when people are being directly affected by that intolerance. If you tolerate intolerance, you're just as intolerant.


Source? Source? Source?

Yes, we had a huge discrimination problem - 60 years ago, and it was ingrained in law. Imagine if an Apple store discriminated against someone today - it would be all over the news, there would possibly be lawsuits. Smaller businesses could probably get away with some discrimination in remote areas, but even then unless they are running a monopoly, they usually have other competitors and even if you discriminate overtly against ONE person, the whole minority will probably never go to your small business again. Customer retention is a huge deal, my fathers business only barely manages to get by, by filling a niche market in an area full of big retail.

Also, I'd say that attempting to change people's opinions about stuff is needlessly authoritarian. You aren't going to force people to bond with each other, you need to gradually let them mix until they understand that hey - people aren't that different. Obviously racism hasn't disappeared, it has only gone underground. Government policies have made it worse by incentivizing people to be racist.

For your final point, this is a picture of Ron Paul giving free healthcare to minorities:

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Postby The Liberated Territories » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:25 am

Cabana wrote:
T Roosevelt wrote:Stalin was less socialist than Vladimir Lenin but he was still a socialist. He wasn't pure evil like Vladimir Lenin but that doesn't excuse his Marxism, his genocides and persecution of Christians that happened when he was the Primer.

Stalin wasn't pure evil but Lenin was?

Are you a shill?


Stalin was a true rough rider. ;)
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:34 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:Teddy:

First, you claim that Ron Paul didn't support capitalism, because somehow in your mind capitalism isn't called "free enterprise" but rather "state controlled enterprise."

Second, you claim that Ron Paul is a socialist and a Marxist, even though I doubt that he ascribes to Dialectal Materialism. If any of the Marxists here would back me, thanks.

I don't know where you are getting these ideas, but I highly doubt any of them are true.

Besides deliberately defiling the heritage of one of America's more spectacularly moustached presidents, I also suspect that Teddy-boy is a frequent visitor of those websites exclusively written by the same clique of paranoid and perpetually angry (young) men who more often than not write their hysterical conspiracy theories IN ALL CAPS.
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Postby Risottia » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:35 am

T Roosevelt wrote:Stalin was less socialist than Vladimir Lenin but he was still a socialist. He wasn't pure evil like Vladimir Lenin but that doesn't excuse his Marxism, his genocides and persecution of Christians that happened when he was the Primer.


If you want to write proper satire, you should learn that a) it's "Premier" not "Primer", that b) the Soviet Union did NOT have a Prime Minister during Stalin's time (it was "chairman of the Council of People's Commissars" and then "Chairman of the Council of Ministers"), and that c) Stalin became head of the Soviet government way after the persecution of the religious.

T Roosevelt wrote:This is why Ron Paul is a Marxist in a conservative costume.


:rofl:

Dudes, we've found the new Hammurab. He only needs to put more Russian gay sex in his rants...
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Postby Its a Texas Thing » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:36 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Its a Texas Thing wrote:I'm seconding this. Teddy, share whatever you're smoking. Sharing is caring.

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Postby Laerod » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:37 am

Risottia wrote:Dudes, we've found the new Hammurab. He only needs to put more Russian gay sex in his rants...

Hammy didn't come across as lazy or uninspired the way T does.

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Postby Pragia » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:44 am

Atlanticatia wrote:-snip-

Don't tolerate intolerance when people are being directly affected by that intolerance. If you tolerate intolerance, you're just as intolerant.

So, uh, do you know what tolerance even is?

tol·er·ance
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"the tolerance of corruption"

You are the one being intolerant, my friend.

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Postby European Socialist Republic » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:47 am

A Paul as POTUS? Wait, I need to make a phone call.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:50 am

Pragia wrote:
Atlanticatia wrote:-snip-

Don't tolerate intolerance when people are being directly affected by that intolerance. If you tolerate intolerance, you're just as intolerant.

So, uh, do you know what tolerance even is?

tol·er·ance
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You are the one being intolerant, my friend.

Makes me want to quote Karl Popper.
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Postby Pragia » Fri Nov 14, 2014 9:55 am

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Pragia wrote:So, uh, do you know what tolerance even is?

tol·er·ance
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noun
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the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.
"the tolerance of corruption"

You are the one being intolerant, my friend.

Makes me want to quote Karl Popper.

Care to explain, or maybe actually quote some 20th century philosopher I've never heard of?

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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:52 am

The Four Taxmen of the Apocalypse wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:Anyone would be better than Hillary. Hell anyTHING would be better than Hillary.


I'm pretty sure the qualifications to be President exclude non-human things.


So no Hillary then. Whew.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:57 am

Big Jim P wrote:
The Four Taxmen of the Apocalypse wrote:
I'm pretty sure the qualifications to be President exclude non-human things.


So no Hillary then. Whew.

I dunno, I'm not seeing anything here about humans only.
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Postby Cabana » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:04 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
The Four Taxmen of the Apocalypse wrote:
I'm pretty sure the qualifications to be President exclude non-human things.


So no Hillary then. Whew.

Whats wrong with Hillary?
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:05 pm

Cabana wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
So no Hillary then. Whew.

Whats wrong with Hillary?

She's technically a geological formation.

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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:06 pm

Cabana wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
So no Hillary then. Whew.

Whats wrong with Hillary?


Everything.
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Postby Ravenflight » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:06 pm

*touches wood* don't jinxs something like that.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:06 pm

Bombadil wrote:Ron Paul is the reality of Charlie the Unicorn..

He promises you candy mountain but would actually just remove your kidneys.

..but shunnn.. shunnn the non-believers.


Yeah, you said it best.
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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:07 pm

Ravenflight wrote:*touches wood* don't jinxs something like that.


We do not need to know when you touch yourself.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:07 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I thought you were black.


As an aside nixon testified before congress in support of the civil rights act.


I may have been unclear in previous statements when I stated that I lived in an almost entirely black neighborhood. My wife, daughter, and myself are among the reasons for the qualifier "almost".


ah, similar to where i grew up.

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:07 pm

Ravenflight wrote:*touches wood* don't jinxs something like that.

Don't worry, Ron Paul has a better chance of becoming King of England than President of the United States.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:09 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Ravenflight wrote:*touches wood* don't jinxs something like that.


We do not need to know when you touch yourself.


Ok, you're Republican, am I right?

IS there a possibility of having Ron Paul as POTUS? IS this a good thing?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:09 pm

Risottia wrote:
T Roosevelt wrote:Stalin was less socialist than Vladimir Lenin but he was still a socialist. He wasn't pure evil like Vladimir Lenin but that doesn't excuse his Marxism, his genocides and persecution of Christians that happened when he was the Primer.


If you want to write proper satire, you should learn that a) it's "Premier" not "Primer", that b) the Soviet Union did NOT have a Prime Minister during Stalin's time (it was "chairman of the Council of People's Commissars" and then "Chairman of the Council of Ministers"), and that c) Stalin became head of the Soviet government way after the persecution of the religious.

T Roosevelt wrote:This is why Ron Paul is a Marxist in a conservative costume.


:rofl:

Dudes, we've found the new Hammurab. He only needs to put more Russian gay sex in his rants...


he isn't a bad roosevelt though. just a bit light on Teddy's racism. Hamm was much quicker.

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