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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:54 am

Esternial wrote:
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Of course you always need some expensive and dangerous elements to built thermonuclear device :lol: point is, no such dangerous quantities of nuclear waste, just helium, which can be used for another purposes.

Humanity needs much more energy every year and only fusion power can give humanity enough energy in future centuries. No other choice. These incredibly inefficient and incredibly expensive fancy shmancy solar or wind energy or another fashion in eco-stuff never can't so never won't give humanity enough energy.
Fusion reactors are literally only major option for the future. It's simple as that.

That's not completely accurate.

http://cleantechnica.com/2011/12/14/sol ... t-will-it/

Also, look up "Dyson sphere" if you're interested in a 'futury' method of harvesting solar power.

Socialist Czechia has an unnatural bias towards nuclear energy, particularly fusion. It goes further than advocating it replace coal as the dominant provider of baseload power and seemingly involves banning any other form of energy that might share the power grid with reactors of the future.
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Postby Servica » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:54 am

First off: Have you seen every one of them do it? Until then, I wouldn't think so.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:56 am

Esternial wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:Solar energy could power the world.
Humanity could colonise Mars.
The US Census Bureau could just say "fuck it" in 2020, and say "all number values are seven".

These are all valid statements, there's a significant issue of "likelihood" with all three.

Doesn't make them any less worth exploring.

The likelihood issue in the case of Saharan solar power, since you missed it, being that it's not entirely feasible.
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Fri Nov 21, 2014 10:59 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Esternial wrote:Doesn't make them any less worth exploring.

The likelihood issue in the case of Saharan solar power, since you missed it, being that it's not entirely feasible.

What is not entirely feasible about solar power in the Sahara desert?
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Postby Immoren » Fri Nov 21, 2014 11:08 am

Should governments (partially) subsidise solar panels for individual citizens and possibly small/medium businesses?
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Postby Tule » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:31 pm

Immoren wrote:Should governments (partially) subsidise solar panels for individual citizens and possibly small/medium businesses?


I suppose it depends on where you live. Solar panels wouldn't be very useful in Scotland I imagine.

But in sunnier places? By all means.
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Postby Sociobiology » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:37 pm

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:The likelihood issue in the case of Saharan solar power, since you missed it, being that it's not entirely feasible.

What is not entirely feasible about solar power in the Sahara desert?

wind blown sand would make them useless relatively quickly and there are few people to use the power generated.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Nov 21, 2014 12:43 pm

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Keyboard Warriors wrote:What is not entirely feasible about solar power in the Sahara desert?

wind blown sand would make them useless relatively quickly and their few people to use the power generated.

I'm also guessing there's going to be an unfathomable difficulty in power transmission, losses, cabling repairs, manufacturing, panel repair, protection and defence (this is in theory the literal source of the world's power)..
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Postby Esternial » Fri Nov 21, 2014 1:37 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Esternial wrote:Doesn't make them any less worth exploring.

The likelihood issue in the case of Saharan solar power, since you missed it, being that it's not entirely feasible.

If we used that mindset humanity wouldn't develop any new technology.

Indeed, not entirely feasible, but still worth looking into.
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Postby Kincoboh » Fri Nov 21, 2014 2:05 pm

Solar power is better suited to a decentralized system. In reality, alternative energies will be more like a patch-work of systems that make up for each other's negatives.
Hopefully, though, invent fusion soon.
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Postby Keyboard Warriors » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:04 am

Sociobiology wrote:
Keyboard Warriors wrote:What is not entirely feasible about solar power in the Sahara desert?

wind blown sand would make them useless relatively quickly and there are few people to use the power generated.

Have you looked into this at all? This is not the first time that people have thought of putting solar panels in the desert.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:36 am

Esternial wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:The likelihood issue in the case of Saharan solar power, since you missed it, being that it's not entirely feasible.

If we used that mindset humanity wouldn't develop any new technology.

Indeed, not entirely feasible, but still worth looking into.

We are looking into new solar technology. Thank general interest and space exploration for that. This isn't a feasible application of these pre-existing technologies.
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Sociobiology wrote:wind blown sand would make them useless relatively quickly and there are few people to use the power generated.

Have you looked into this at all? This is not the first time that people have thought of putting solar panels in the desert.

The climactic conditions of the Sahara are slightly less favourable than the Mojave.
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Postby Sociobiology » Sat Nov 22, 2014 9:53 am

Keyboard Warriors wrote:
Sociobiology wrote:wind blown sand would make them useless relatively quickly and there are few people to use the power generated.

Have you looked into this at all? This is not the first time that people have thought of putting solar panels in the desert.

many deserts are fine, sahara not so much
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