U.K. to block any sale of JAS-39s to Argentina

[Calimera II]

You are acting like it is 'impossible' to be supporting Argentina's claim. And that's utterly annoying, especially since most countries in the world support Argentina's claim.

Russia, China and South America is not "most of the world".

And 54 countries in Africa + the Arab League + Spain + Portugal + Plenty of other countries.

[Vassenor]

Russia, China and South America is not "most of the world".

Spain + Portugal

Signatories to an EU treaty that recognises the Falklands as British territory. Also, Spain falls into to the "Trying to justify their own imperialist claims" category w/r/t Gibraltar.

[Calimera II]

Spain + Portugal

Signatories to an EU treaty that recognises the Falklands as British territory.

Argentina gets the support of Portugal and Spain over the Falklands
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(And when it comes to the EU treaty.... =) ''After a complaint by the inclusion of the Falkland Islands as territories associated with the European Union, the government was able to get the support of two countries of that block, Spain and Portugal, at the Ibero-American Summit in Estoril.''
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Source: http://www.diario26.com/la-argentina-su ... ota=100295

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Russia, China and South America is not "most of the world".

And 54 countries in Africa + the Arab League + Spain + Portugal + Plenty of other countries.

I've read your signature, you must not like democracy so much, or at least not when it conflicts with your nationalist ego.

And don't worry, I'm not using nationalist as a bad word, I'm not into that (bull)shit.

In a way I understand why you might be feeling so strongly about this, in others I don't. You live in the Netherlands, you say? Lucky fucker. Learn to enjoy the simple pleasures that the Earth gives you. Peace, man.

[Calimera II]

And 54 countries in Africa + the Arab League + Spain + Portugal + Plenty of other countries.

I've read your signature, you must not like democracy so much, or at least not when it conflicts with your nationalist ego..

Oh don't worry, I love democracy. ^^

And don't worry, I'm not using nationalist as a bad word, I'm not into that (bull)shit.

Good to hear.

In a way I understand why you might be feeling so strongly about this, in others I don't. You live in the Netherlands, you say? Lucky fucker. Learn to enjoy the simple pleasures that the Earth gives you. Peace, man.

Yes, I live in The Netherlands, and I love it here. And thank you.

[Dooom35796821595]

Russia, China and South America is not "most of the world".

And 54 countries in Africa + the Arab League + Spain + Portugal + Plenty of other countries.

So if all these countries are so vocal in their support of Argentinas "claim".......what are they doing about it? Where are the sanctions? Condemnations? UN resolution proposals?

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

I've read your signature, you must not like democracy so much, or at least not when it conflicts with your nationalist ego..

Oh don't worry, I love democracy. ^^

And don't worry, I'm not using nationalist as a bad word, I'm not into that (bull)shit.

Good to hear.

In a way I understand why you might be feeling so strongly about this, in others I don't. You live in the Netherlands, you say? Lucky fucker. Learn to enjoy the simple pleasures that the Earth gives you. Peace, man.

Yes, I live in The Netherlands, and I love it here. And thank you.

(I was talking about weed ; I'm jealous of you)

[The balkens]

You are acting like it is 'impossible' to be supporting Argentina's claim. And that's utterly annoying, especially since most countries in the world support Argentina's claim.

and the people of the Falklands negated those claims by voting (and stay with me here) to stay British.

[Calimera II]

And 54 countries in Africa + the Arab League + Spain + Portugal + Plenty of other countries.

So if all these countries are so vocal in their support of Argentina's *claim what are they doing about it?

Supporting Argentina and its claim. Sanctions are not needed and that would be extremely childish.

An example: they set pressure on the UK, like Israel (we musn't forget that Israel helped the Argentine military in the war) and Peru do: http://www.infonews.com/2013/04/18/poli ... lvinas.php http://www.americaeconomia.com/politica ... s-malvinas

[Calimera II]

Oh don't worry, I love democracy. ^^

Good to hear.


Yes, I live in The Netherlands, and I love it here. And thank you.

(I was talking about weed ; I'm jealous of you)

[The balkens]

So if all these countries are so vocal in their support of Argentina's *claim what are they doing about it?

Supporting Argentina and its claim. Sanctions are not needed and that would be extremely childish.

An example: they set pressure on the UK, like Israel (we musn't forget that Israel helped the Argentine military in the war) and Peru do: http://www.infonews.com/2013/04/18/poli ... lvinas.php http://www.americaeconomia.com/politica ... s-malvinas

a war that they lost but who is keeping score?

[Imperializt Russia]

So if all these countries are so vocal in their support of Argentina's *claim what are they doing about it?

Supporting Argentina and its claim. Sanctions are not needed and that would be extremely childish.

An example: they set pressure on the UK, like Israel (we musn't forget that Israel helped the Argentine military in the war) and Peru do: http://www.infonews.com/2013/04/18/poli ... lvinas.php http://www.americaeconomia.com/politica ... s-malvinas

I can't help but think that supporting Israel because they support your standing is a little hypocritical, given Israel's reputation for "land management".

[Calimera II]

Supporting Argentina and its claim. Sanctions are not needed and that would be extremely childish.

An example: they set pressure on the UK, like Israel (we musn't forget that Israel helped the Argentine military in the war) and Peru do: http://www.infonews.com/2013/04/18/poli ... lvinas.php http://www.americaeconomia.com/politica ... s-malvinas

I can't help but think that supporting Israel because they support your standing is a little hypocritical, given Israel's reputation for "land management".

Uhm, I don't support Israel because of the help in the war.

[The balkens]

Supporting Argentina and its claim. Sanctions are not needed and that would be extremely childish.

An example: they set pressure on the UK, like Israel (we musn't forget that Israel helped the Argentine military in the war) and Peru do: http://www.infonews.com/2013/04/18/poli ... lvinas.php http://www.americaeconomia.com/politica ... s-malvinas

I can't help but think that supporting Israel because they support your standing is a little hypocritical, given Israel's reputation for "land management".

I will fucking laugh if someone claims that Argentina acted in self defense.

[Dooom35796821595]

So if all these countries are so vocal in their support of Argentina's *claim what are they doing about it?

Supporting Argentina and its claim. Sanctions are not needed and that would be extremely childish.

An example: they set pressure on the UK, like Israel (we musn't forget that Israel helped the Argentine military in the war) and Peru do: http://www.infonews.com/2013/04/18/poli ... lvinas.php http://www.americaeconomia.com/politica ... s-malvinas

I guess you misses the other half, so I'll highlight it. And do you have anything official, preferably in English, possibly mentioned in the UN?

And 54 countries in Africa + the Arab League + Spain + Portugal + Plenty of other countries.

So if all these countries are so vocal in their support of Argentinas "claim".......what are they doing about it? Where are the sanctions? Condemnations? UN resolution proposals?

[Calimera II]

Supporting Argentina and its claim. Sanctions are not needed and that would be extremely childish.

An example: they set pressure on the UK, like Israel (we musn't forget that Israel helped the Argentine military in the war) and Peru do: http://www.infonews.com/2013/04/18/poli ... lvinas.php http://www.americaeconomia.com/politica ... s-malvinas

I guess you misses the other half, so I'll highlight it. And do you have anything official, preferably in English, possibly mentioned in the UN?

So if all these countries are so vocal in their support of Argentinas "claim".......what are they doing about it? Where are the sanctions? Condemnations? UN resolution proposals?

The Special Committee on Decolonization today approved a draft resolution on the question of the Falkland Islands (Malvinas)* by which the General Assembly would reiterate that the way to end that “special and particular colonial situation” was the peaceful and negotiated settlement of the sovereignty dispute between the Governments of Argentina and the United Kingdom.

And we all know the UK doesn't want to negotiate.

http://www.un.org/press/en/2013/gacol3257.doc.htm

[Washington Resistance Army]

And we all know the UK doesn't want to negotiate.

http://www.un.org/press/en/2013/gacol3257.doc.htm

They don't need to negotiate, the people who live in the Falklands have made it clear they don't want to be part of Argentina.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

EDIT: linked to the wrong page. Whoops. I am looking for the link now.

What I am wondering is why there's no "Last edited by Calimera II" under the post.

[Calimera II]

And we all know the UK doesn't want to negotiate.

http://www.un.org/press/en/2013/gacol3257.doc.htm

They don't need to negotiate, the people who live in the Falklands have made it clear they don't want to be part of Argentina.

You mean the implanted population? uhh?

[Calimera II]

EDIT: linked to the wrong page. Whoops. I am looking for the link now.

What I am wondering is why there's no "Last edited by Calimera II" under the post.

Deleted the post (since I was last) and posted a new one. Or do you think there is another conspiracy?

[The balkens]

They don't need to negotiate, the people who live in the Falklands have made it clear they don't want to be part of Argentina.

You mean the implanted population? uhh?

And like the people of Argentina where on their soil since time began. not due to the Spanish.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

No problem.

The issue, you see, with deciding things based on historical claims, i.e. irredentism, is that it NEVER FUCKING STOPS, ok? Some country will always feel they've been neglected, no matter what you do. This has been time tested, and it just does not work. It's simply a stupid game where everyone takes turns over territories, and, inherently, people, that they think they're entitled to, with a bunch of men getting killed each time the ball gets passed around, with each turn.

More important than national egos, more important than anything else, is PEACE. This can only be attained if we drop this barbaric way of doing things and rely on democracy and self-determination instead. There is no other way, no middle ground. The only way of ensuring peace is understanding that the ultimate right to a land are to those people who actually live on it, not some distant government seat pretending to act in their best interests whilst actually serving their own, AND that as long as people are pleased with how and by whom they're being governed, they are peaceful.

Do you get this?

You are acting like it is 'impossible' to be supporting Argentina's claim. And that's utterly annoying, especially since most countries in the world support Argentina's claim.

And yet the only source that you have posted that supports your claim that most people in the world supports it was proven wrong last page, and quite spectacularly so!

[Washington Resistance Army]

They don't need to negotiate, the people who live in the Falklands have made it clear they don't want to be part of Argentina.

You mean the implanted population? uhh?

Given they're the people that live on the islands, yeah we should probably take what they want into consideration. Argentina has no good claim to the islands, the people that live on them want nothing to do with them and it's pointless to keep bringing it up because the UK will never give them control of the islands.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

What I am wondering is why there's no "Last edited by Calimera II" under the post.

Deleted the post (since I was last) and posted a new one. Or do you think there is another conspiracy?

"Another" conspiracy? I'm sorry, but what? The only one who is acting like a conspiracy theorist in this thread is you, with your "everybody is making propaganda against Argentina" bollocks.

[Calimera II]

You are acting like it is 'impossible' to be supporting Argentina's claim. And that's utterly annoying, especially since most countries in the world support Argentina's claim.

And yet the only source that you have posted that supports your claim that most people in the world supports it was proven wrong last page, and quite spectacularly so!

Ehm no. It's quite funny how some people think Argentina is wrong on everything. When it comes to the Top Gear incident.. when it comes to the vulture funds.. when it comes to the papelonera with Uruguay.. when it comes to the Malvinas etc. You are one of them