U.K. to block any sale of JAS-39s to Argentina

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

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They are wrong because you and TYT says so.

They are wrong because the majority of the G20 countries and the UN says so.

That Argentina didn't default? Now, where did you post anything that points to the fact that G20 and the UN says so?

[Imperializt Russia]

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They are wrong because the majority of the G20 countries and the UN says so.

At one point a majority of people thought the world was flat.........

I think that's just a myth.
Should've gone with the geocentric universe.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

At one point a majority of people thought the world was flat.........

I think that's just a myth.
Should've gone with the geocentric universe.

Before the Greeks I am quite sure that people believed the earth to be flat.

[WestRedMaple]

The undeniable fact is that you actually posted no such thing.

That, as well as Argentina's latest default, show good reason not to trust Argentina financially.

The fact is that Argentina has yet to pay up what it already owes.

Glad that the G20 and the world (with the exception of the UK and some other countries) actually support the Argentinian claim.

It's funny how you list the majority as "the exception"

[Calimera II]

Glad that the G20 and the world (with the exception of the UK and some other countries) actually support the Argentinian claim.

It's funny how you list the majority as "the exception"

Source that.

[WestRedMaple]

This blocking is simply pathetic. Argentina has the right to the JAS-39s.

They have no right to the property of others

[Coreyea]

Argentina can afford them, and it seems quite idiotic to me that the UK would block a deal.

And let's not debate ownership of the Malvinas/Falklands.

They belong to the British.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

The foreign minister underlined that under any Argentinian control of the Falklands, its residents, who according to all polls are implacably opposed to any involvement by Buenos Aires in their affairs, the “interests” but not the “wishes” of islanders would be respected.

He said: “The interests are, for instance, their way of life, their right to have their own language, their right to be British subjects. Their wishes can be something they would like to have but they don’t have, even if they want.”

Haha, oh God I'm dying

[United Kingdom of Kent]

It's funny how you list the majority as "the exception"

Source that.

So lets count then, so all the EU members and all the Commonwealth, as well as a majority of our NATO allies accept the British claim or at the least accept the current British rule as legitimate (the EU organisation says this but most members accept sovereignty as well). The UN has never said it supports the Argentinian claim, it has only ever said dialogue must occur (so as soon as Argentina lets the Falkland islanders be involved in any talks we can start).

So whose that leave for Argentina, just Latin America (no surprise there) and China, which only supports you in return for you supporting their sovereignty over Taiwan.

[Calimera II]

Source that.

So lets count then, so all the EU and all the Commonwealth, as well as a majority of our NATO allies accept the British claim or at the least accept the current British rule as legitimate. The UN has never said it supports the Argentinian claim, it has only ever said dialogue must occur (so as soon as Argentina lets the Falkland islanders be involved in any talks we can start).

So whose that leave for Argentina, just Latin America (no surprise there) and China, which only supports you in return for you supporting their sovereignty over Taiwan.

At least you are good at lying, the most of the world supports Argentina's claim.

EDIT: btw.. We were talking about the vulture funds and the big support for Argentina.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

So lets count then, so all the EU and all the Commonwealth, as well as a majority of our NATO allies accept the British claim or at the least accept the current British rule as legitimate. The UN has never said it supports the Argentinian claim, it has only ever said dialogue must occur (so as soon as Argentina lets the Falkland islanders be involved in any talks we can start).

So whose that leave for Argentina, just Latin America (no surprise there) and China, which only supports you in return for you supporting their sovereignty over Taiwan.

At least you are good at lying.

And yet you've neglected giving us a source that shows that most of the world agrees with you.

This goes both ways y'know.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

This blocking is simply pathetic. Argentina has the right to the JAS-39s.

lolwut? right?

[Imperializt Russia]

Also Russia, who... has discrepancies in territorial recognition and Spain, who... has discrepancies in territorial recognition. Not to mention China and their... discrepancies in territorial recognition.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

This blocking is simply pathetic. Argentina has the right to the JAS-39s.

Argentina has a right to something they don't own!! EBUL BRITAIN!!

tell me about it. fucking imperialist colonialist dogpigs.

[Dreadful Sagittarius]

So lets count then, so all the EU and all the Commonwealth, as well as a majority of our NATO allies accept the British claim or at the least accept the current British rule as legitimate. The UN has never said it supports the Argentinian claim, it has only ever said dialogue must occur (so as soon as Argentina lets the Falkland islanders be involved in any talks we can start).

So whose that leave for Argentina, just Latin America (no surprise there) and China, which only supports you in return for you supporting their sovereignty over Taiwan.

At least you are good at lying.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner for 2014's 'Best Back-pedaller in Debates'!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_I ... onal_views Somebody already posted this to disprove you, but I'll link you again.

[Aemorica]

Two rival nations claiming the same territories, who have been to war over said territories are refusing to trade. I fail to see the problem.

Argentina still has anti-British propaganda on road signs, they still forbid flying the British flag, they still refuse to let British ships dock at their ports even under emergency circumstances and nobody cares.
Britain refuses to sell weapons to a country they know could potentially attack them and the people of NS complain.

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

So lets count then, so all the EU and all the Commonwealth, as well as a majority of our NATO allies accept the British claim or at the least accept the current British rule as legitimate. The UN has never said it supports the Argentinian claim, it has only ever said dialogue must occur (so as soon as Argentina lets the Falkland islanders be involved in any talks we can start).

So whose that leave for Argentina, just Latin America (no surprise there) and China, which only supports you in return for you supporting their sovereignty over Taiwan.

At least you are good at lying, the most of the world supports Argentina's claim.

EDIT: btw.. We were talking about the vulture funds and the big support for Argentina.

lolwut? they do? based on what, exactly?

because hey, fuck democracy and self-determination, hooray irredentism

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

Two rival nations claiming the same territories, who have been to war over said territories are refusing to trade. I fail to see the problem.

Argentina still has anti-British propaganda on road signs, they still forbid flying the British flag, they still refuse to let British ships dock at their ports even under emergency circumstances and nobody cares.
Britain refuses to sell weapons to a country they know could potentially attack them and the people of NS complain.

poor little Argentina being held down by ebul colonialist white-man Brits >.<

by denying them their airplanes that they so rightfully deserve.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

At least you are good at lying, the most of the world supports Argentina's claim.

EDIT: btw.. We were talking about the vulture funds and the big support for Argentina.

lolwut? they do? based on what, exactly?

because hey, fuck democracy and self-determination, hooray irredentism

As can be seen by this quote by the Argentinian foreign minister:

The foreign minister underlined that under any Argentinian control of the Falklands, its residents, who according to all polls are implacably opposed to any involvement by Buenos Aires in their affairs, the “interests” but not the “wishes” of islanders would be respected.

He said: “The interests are, for instance, their way of life, their right to have their own language, their right to be British subjects. Their wishes can be something they would like to have but they don’t have, even if they want.”

[Aemorica]

So lets count then, so all the EU and all the Commonwealth, as well as a majority of our NATO allies accept the British claim or at the least accept the current British rule as legitimate. The UN has never said it supports the Argentinian claim, it has only ever said dialogue must occur (so as soon as Argentina lets the Falkland islanders be involved in any talks we can start).

So whose that leave for Argentina, just Latin America (no surprise there) and China, which only supports you in return for you supporting their sovereignty over Taiwan.

At least you are good at lying, the most of the world supports Argentina's claim.

EDIT: btw.. We were talking about the vulture funds and the big support for Argentina.

No, most of the world doesn't support Argentina's claim. Most of South America's governments and the Chinese government supports Argentina's claims. Nobody else supports Argentina. USA and EU have said they will back whoever has de facto control, which is currently Britain.

[Calimera II]

Argentina still has anti-British propaganda on road signs

We don't have and never had anti-British propaganda on road signs..

At least you are good at lying, the most of the world supports Argentina's claim.

EDIT: btw.. We were talking about the vulture funds and the big support for Argentina.

No, most of the world doesn't support Argentina's claim. Most of South America's governments and the Chinese government supports Argentina's claims. Nobody else supports Argentina. USA and EU have said they will back whoever has de facto control, which is currently Britain.

Don't say bullshit.

Dark blue: Supports the British claim
Turqoise (US etc): Neutral
Everything red: Supports the Argentinean claim


Source: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_di ... o_2014.png

[Imperializt Russia]

No, most of the world doesn't support Argentina's claim. Most of South America's governments and the Chinese government supports Argentina's claims. Nobody else supports Argentina. USA and EU have said they will back whoever has de facto control, which is currently Britain.

Don't say bullshit.

Dark blue: Supports the British claim
Turqoise (US etc): Neutral
Everything red: Supports the Argentinean claim


Source: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_di ... o_2014.png

A bunch of ex-colonies and world powers with dubious territorial claims of there own.

Ooh, quel surprise.

[Calimera II]

Don't say bullshit.

Dark blue: Supports the British claim
Turqoise (US etc): Neutral
Everything red: Supports the Argentinean claim


Source: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_di ... o_2014.png

A bunch of ex-colonies and world powers with dubious territorial claims of there own.

Ooh, quel surprise.

Just accept that most of the world supports Argentina's claim. And.. dubious territorial claims? Italy?

[DnalweN acilbupeR]

A bunch of ex-colonies and world powers with dubious territorial claims of there own.

Ooh, quel surprise.

Just accept that most of the world supports Argentina's claim. And.. dubious territorial claims? Italy?

What is Argentina's claim based on, again, seeing how virtually every resident wants the status quo?

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

A bunch of ex-colonies and world powers with dubious territorial claims of there own.

Ooh, quel surprise.

Just accept that most of the world supports Argentina's claim. And.. dubious territorial claims? Italy?

48 senators.

48 out of 315. About 15%.