U.K. to block any sale of JAS-39s to Argentina

[The UK in Exile]

No, but there's also the absence of a logical reason for blocking it.

Britain sells arms, its always sold arms, frequently to people it ends up fighting. If our standard is that we can't sell arms that might end up being used against us. Then we can't sell them period. To argue that Argentina is currently a special case is nonsense in light of who we have previously sold: Argentina, Iraq, Egypt, Russia.

And how many of those three currently pose an active and vocal threat to our territory?

including Argentina?

none.

[Vassenor]

And how many of those three currently pose an active and vocal threat to our territory?

including Argentina?

none.

So all this screaming to be given the islands isn't a vocal threat. Right.

[The UK in Exile]

including Argentina?

none.

So all this screaming to be given the islands isn't a vocal threat. Right.

No. It isn't.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoEUkE7-KeA

[Vassenor]

What does a Game of Thrones clip have to do with this?

Or are you suggesting we should just ignore the Argentine government because they're being the political equivalent of a petulant toddler screaming for attention?

[Frazers]

What does a Game of Thrones clip have to do with this?

Or are you suggesting we should just ignore the Argentine government because they're being the political equivalent of a petulant toddler screaming for attention?

No apparently ignoring them isn't appropriate. We should treat them completely as normal it seems.

[The UK in Exile]

What does a Game of Thrones clip have to do with this?

Or are you suggesting we should just ignore the Argentine government because they're being the political equivalent of a petulant toddler screaming for attention?

that your evidencing the same inability to grasp the difference between disagreements and threats as sir Meryn and I'm as cool as Tyrion Lannister, Pimp hand of the King.

[Vassenor]

What does a Game of Thrones clip have to do with this?

Or are you suggesting we should just ignore the Argentine government because they're being the political equivalent of a petulant toddler screaming for attention?

that your evidencing the same inability to grasp the difference between disagreements and threats as sir Meryn and I'm as cool as Tyrion Lannister, Pimp hand of the King.

Which is why in that same post I revised my appraisal of the situation. I have no time for your ego-stroking.

[Washington Resistance Army]

We should sell Argentina a couple F-22's for the lulz.

[The Smith Protectorate]

repeatedly calling for a negotiated process within the bounds of international law

Because denial of self-determination is totally within international law.

Of course the British should veto the deal, it's not paranoia if someone is openly out to get you, as Kirchner isn't exactly being quite on the issue. The Falkland islands are pretty much on their way to a self determined nation anyway. they only require Britain for protection, which as Argentina has showed is a necessity not a want. not to mention that Britain is far more likely to give the colony true independence (when it can stand on its own two feet without threat) than Argentina ever would be willing to do, as they've tried to hard to get the land, only to give it up 30 years later in some independence vote.

[The UK in Exile]

that your evidencing the same inability to grasp the difference between disagreements and threats as sir Meryn and I'm as cool as Tyrion Lannister, Pimp hand of the King.

Which is why in that same post I revised my appraisal of the situation. I have no time for your ego-stroking.

Good. well since you've "revised your appraisal" from threatening to non-threatening, Hey, lets sell them the same weapons we sell everyone else.

[Vassenor]

Which is why in that same post I revised my appraisal of the situation. I have no time for your ego-stroking.

Good. well since you've "revised your appraisal" from threatening to non-threatening, Hey, lets sell them the same weapons we sell everyone else.

Yes, let's give the toddler throwing a tantrum something that they'll just hurt themselves with.

[The UK in Exile]

Good. well since you've "revised your appraisal" from threatening to non-threatening, Hey, lets sell them the same weapons we sell everyone else.

Yes, let's give the toddler throwing a tantrum something that they'll just hurt themselves with.

I agree, we shouldn't sell weapons that might be used to hurt people.

Specifically: all of them.

[Vassenor]

Yes, let's give the toddler throwing a tantrum something that they'll just hurt themselves with.

I agree, we shouldn't sell weapons that might be used to hurt people.

Specifically: all of them.

You're strawmanning now. I'm talking about keeping them from doing something stupid.

[The UK in Exile]

I agree, we shouldn't sell weapons that might be used to hurt people.

Specifically: all of them.

You're strawmanning now. I'm talking about keeping them from doing something stupid.

No, I'm Ironmaning. Thats when I take your arguement and make it look better than it really was and then agree with it.

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

We should sell Argentina a couple F-22's for the lulz.

I thought that F-22 production had been shut down?

Again, none of my ancestors back in the 18th century fought against the crown. If anything, they wouldve gladly fought for it.

By ancestors, I mean those who fought and bleed so that you could be citizen of a free from British imperialism

An abridged summary-
Manisdog: I'm presuming that your ancestors would want what I want, so you should do what your ancestors would've wanted, regardless of what you want.
Balkens: A) No. B) My ancestors wouldn't have wanted what you want anyway.
Manisdog: Oh, in that case, when I said your ancestors, I actually meant the people that lived at the same time as your ancestors, but who did want what I want.

As always, many lols from Manisdog.

[Washington Resistance Army]

We should sell Argentina a couple F-22's for the lulz.

I thought that F-22 production had been shut down?

It did, but for our good pals in Argentina I'm sure we could work something out

[Bandwagon]

This is how the Argentinians can sort it out....................................... SATO!
A bunch of African and South American countries.
Except it wouldn't be too popular with the Catholic Church. (As it sounds like Satan.)
They could get money from Russia, China and India too.

[Assorted Sucrose-Based Lifeforms]

I thought that F-22 production had been shut down?

It did, but for our good pals in Argentina I'm sure we could work something out

The cost of re-opening production facilities for an extraordinarily small production run would make the F-22 programme (Argentina edition) even more expensive than the original programme. They would probably struggle to afford even one aircraft.
But by all means, lets work something out and let them blow their money on such a small order, at least the US would make a bit of money out of the deal and the Argentines would be able to parade around their fancy new toys.

[WestRedMaple]

Again, none of my ancestors back in the 18th century fought against the crown. If anything, they wouldve gladly fought for it.

By ancestors, I mean those who fought and bleed so that you could be citizen of a free from British imperialism

Did you even read their post before responding?

[WestRedMaple]

If Argentina really wanted improved relations and had no desire to ever take over the Falklands, then the logical thing would be for Argentina to formally renounce claim to any UK territory.

Theur unwillingness to do so is their choice, but also leaves them in no position to have any justified complaint about the UK choosing not to sell them something.

[The Two Jerseys]

I thought that F-22 production had been shut down?

It did, but for our good pals in Argentina I'm sure we could work something out

We'll sell them the ones with the oxygen system problems.

[T Roosevelt]

The United Kingdom is wrong to stop weapons trade. It's pathetic that they're scared of Argentina protecting its own interests. If the United Kingdom really was tough they would pick on someone their own size. Stopping fair trade, that shows that you're afraid of competition.

[Vassenor]

The United Kingdom is wrong to stop weapons trade. It's pathetic that they're scared of Argentina protecting its own interests. If the United Kingdom really was tough they would pick on someone their own size. Stopping fair trade, that shows that you're afraid of competition.

Where "protecting its own interests" means "Screaming about how territory internationally recognised as belonging to the United Kingdom is actually theirs and must be handed over immediately".

[Westerplatte]

You can have your little war, just keep it off my Ireland.

[Alyakia]

The United Kingdom is wrong to stop weapons trade. It's pathetic that they're scared of Argentina protecting its own interests. If the United Kingdom really was tough they would pick on someone their own size. Stopping fair trade, that shows that you're afraid of competition.

you're aware this is international politics not a game right?