U.K. to block any sale of JAS-39s to Argentina

[The Nihilistic view]

2 world wars and 1 world cup, do dah do dah, 2 world and 1 world cup, all do dah day!

Of course, Germany has won 4 world cups. With the distinction that plenty of the people who where in those world cups are actually still around.

Well lets call a World War Two points and a World Cup a point. I make that 5-4!

[The UK in Exile]

And last time I checked fighting to defend the British Empire was a white mans war.

Wait, you mean Kenyans, Indians, Burmese, Sierra Leonans, they're all white? I'm sure they'd be glad to know they can stick two fingers up at white supremacists.

Its not called the Kenyan Empire now, is it?

[The UK in Exile]

Of course, Germany has won 4 world cups. With the distinction that plenty of the people who where in those world cups are actually still around.

Well lets call a World War Two points and a World Cup a point. I make that 5-4!

Sure, except you have to divide British points by three because its an allied victory both times. Meanwhile germany gets double points for three of its world cups for competing as only half a country.

So its 2 - 7.

[Vassenor]

What does any of this have to do with the topic at hand, aside from being an excuse to call anyone with a British passport evil by association?

[Fartsniffage]

Well lets call a World War Two points and a World Cup a point. I make that 5-4!

Sure, except you have to divide British points by three because its an allied victory both times. Meanwhile germany gets double points for three of its world cups for competing as only half a country.

So its 2 - 7.

Ohh, this is fun.

Wouldn't the fact that Germany also had allies negate the British allies? Also, England won that world cup while only being one fourth of a country. Perhaps you should check you math again....

[The UK in Exile]

Sure, except you have to divide British points by three because its an allied victory both times. Meanwhile germany gets double points for three of its world cups for competing as only half a country.

So its 2 - 7.

Ohh, this is fun.

Wouldn't the fact that Germany also had allies negate the British allies? Also, England won that world cup while only being one fourth of a country. Perhaps you should check you math again....

No, if Germany had won a world war the same penalty would apply. Good point about the world cup though, I'd just divided 5 by 3. but 4/3 gets us 1.333 plus one gets us 2.3. rounded down to the same result. I admit I'm unsure how to factor the accession of the Saxe-Coburgs.

[The Nihilistic view]

Sure, except you have to divide British points by three because its an allied victory both times. Meanwhile germany gets double points for three of its world cups for competing as only half a country.

So its 2 - 7.

Ohh, this is fun.

Wouldn't the fact that Germany also had allies negate the British allies? Also, England won that world cup while only being one fourth of a country. Perhaps you should check you math again....

And don't forget a couple of the German players at the last World Cup were born in Poland. Poland was on the allied side so that win counts for the allies as well. They have men in the German World cup camp!

[The Two Jerseys]

Well lets call a World War Two points and a World Cup a point. I make that 5-4!

Sure, except you have to divide British points by three because its an allied victory both times. Meanwhile germany gets double points for three of its world cups for competing as only half a country.

So its 2 - 7.

Deduct 1.5 points from Germany for going to war knowing that Italy was on their side.

[The UK in Exile]

Ohh, this is fun.

Wouldn't the fact that Germany also had allies negate the British allies? Also, England won that world cup while only being one fourth of a country. Perhaps you should check you math again....

And don't forget a couple of the German players at the last World Cup were born in Poland. Poland was on the allied side so that win counts for the allies as well. They have men in the German World cup camp!

Poland was occupied during the war.

Sure, except you have to divide British points by three because its an allied victory both times. Meanwhile germany gets double points for three of its world cups for competing as only half a country.

So its 2 - 7.

Deduct 1.5 points from Germany for going to war knowing that Italy was on their side.

We'd have to do the same for the British.

[The Two Jerseys]

Deduct 1.5 points from Germany for going to war knowing that Italy was on their side.

We'd have to do the same for the British.

No, Italy switched sides. Both times, actually.

Gotta dock Germany 3 points then.

[The UK in Exile]

We'd have to do the same for the British.

No, Italy switched sides. Both times, actually.

Gotta dock Germany 3 points then.

I doubt it took the british unawares.

[Estado Nacional]

It's such a shame those people kind of like their current status. C'est la vie *sighs*

why?

[The Nihilistic view]

And don't forget a couple of the German players at the last World Cup were born in Poland. Poland was on the allied side so that win counts for the allies as well. They have men in the German World cup camp!

Poland was occupied during the war.

And..........

[The UK in Exile]

Poland was occupied during the war.

And..........

so they didn't get to pick sides.

[The Nihilistic view]

And..........

so they didn't get to pick sides.

Poland as a nation never surrendered, they formed a government in exile and tens if not hundreds of thousands of Poles fought under British command right through the war. As well as the thousands of German soldiers that were tied up by the partisans in Poland. But I suppose that's not picking sides.

[The balkens]

Sure, except you have to divide British points by three because its an allied victory both times. Meanwhile germany gets double points for three of its world cups for competing as only half a country.

So its 2 - 7.

Deduct 1.5 points from Germany for going to war knowing that Italy was on their side.

D:

ok....

[The UK in Exile]

so they didn't get to pick sides.

Poland as a nation never surrendered, they formed a government in exile and tens if not hundreds of thousands of Poles fought under British command right through the war. As well as the thousands of German soldiers that were tied up by the partisans in Poland. But I suppose that's not picking sides.

No, but then it doesn't count the ones who served in the German Army either. And of course half the poles who fought under british command where exiles from Russia, who we were allies with.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

Interesting point, the Falklanders are part of the Shangan area meaning they can live anywhere in Europe but the reverse isn't true, even Brits need permission to live there. So how would giving it to Argentina be any less an empirical act then what you mistakenly believe is currently happening?

presumably you mean Schengen? in which case A) no they aren't and B) thats not what schengen does.

A) Yeah, that one's right. B) No, that one's wrong. The countries in Schengen have abolished passport and border control for all countries inside of said area.

[Vassenor]

presumably you mean Schengen? in which case A) no they aren't and B) thats not what schengen does.

A) Yeah, that one's right. B) No, that one's wrong. The countries in Schengen have abolished passport and border control for all countries inside of said area.

Link to official source in case anyone tries to invoke the Genetic Fallacy.

[The UK in Exile]

presumably you mean Schengen? in which case A) no they aren't and B) thats not what schengen does.

A) Yeah, that one's right. B) No, that one's wrong. The countries in Schengen have abolished passport and border control for all countries inside of said area.

And? doesn't mean if you have a schengen visa you can live anywhere. Or work anywhere.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

A) Yeah, that one's right. B) No, that one's wrong. The countries in Schengen have abolished passport and border control for all countries inside of said area.

And? doesn't mean if you have a schengen visa you can live anywhere. Or work anywhere.

Within the Schengen area, yes you can. I actually believe it applies to the entirety of the EU.

You do not need a citizenship to work within the EU, if you already have a citizenship in another EU nation.

[The UK in Exile]

And? doesn't mean if you have a schengen visa you can live anywhere. Or work anywhere.

Within the Schengen area, yes you can. I actually believe it applies to the entirety of the EU.

You do not need a citizenship to work within the EU, if you already have a citizenship in another EU nation.

Which has nothing to do with Schengen.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

Within the Schengen area, yes you can. I actually believe it applies to the entirety of the EU.

You do not need a citizenship to work within the EU, if you already have a citizenship in another EU nation.

Which has nothing to do with Schengen.

Schengen is an extension of it.

[Vassenor]

Within the Schengen area, yes you can. I actually believe it applies to the entirety of the EU.

You do not need a citizenship to work within the EU, if you already have a citizenship in another EU nation.

Which has nothing to do with Schengen.

They're both ways in which the EU / EC is slowly eroding the borders between nation-states.

[The UK in Exile]

Which has nothing to do with Schengen.

Schengen is an extension of it.

In the sense that it has nothing to do with it. yes.

Schengen allows for international travellers entering the area to treat it as a single country for international travel purposes. A Schengen Visa doesn't let you work and it doesn't let you live. Nationality in an EU state and by extension EU citizenship is another matter and reserved to national governments.