U.K. to block any sale of JAS-39s to Argentina

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

They don't need to negotiate, the people who live in the Falklands have made it clear they don't want to be part of Argentina.

You mean the implanted population? uhh?

They've lived there for several generations. They're the native population now.

They are not any more implanted than Argentinans are. Than Americans are. Than Australians are.

[The balkens]

And yet the only source that you have posted that supports your claim that most people in the world supports it was proven wrong last page, and quite spectacularly so!

Ehm no. It's quite funny how some people think Argentina is wrong on everything. When it comes to the Top Gear incident.. when it comes to the vulture funds.. when it comes to the papelonera with Uruguay.. when it comes to the Malvinas etc. You are one of them

But they are wrong.

They tried fighting a war, lost. deal with it.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

And yet the only source that you have posted that supports your claim that most people in the world supports it was proven wrong last page, and quite spectacularly so!

Ehm no. It's quite funny how some people think Argentina is wrong on everything. When it comes to the Top Gear incident.. when it comes to the vulture funds.. when it comes to the papelonera with Uruguay.. when it comes to the Malvinas etc. You are one of them

Not on everything. For example, I fully support Argentina when it comes to arresting Justin Bieber.

There are, however, a LOT of things that Argentina is doing wrong. I am also very much against a LOT of things that the US is doing that's wrong.

[Calimera II]

Ehm no. It's quite funny how some people think Argentina is wrong on everything. When it comes to the Top Gear incident.. when it comes to the vulture funds.. when it comes to the papelonera with Uruguay.. when it comes to the Malvinas etc. You are one of them

But they are wrong.

That opinion is opposed by many people and countries.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

But they are wrong.

That opinion is opposed by many people and countries.

It is also supported by many people and countries.

I am still waiting for you to post a source for "the majority of countries supporting Argentina".

[New Tsavon]

But they are wrong.

That opinion is opposed by many people and countries.

None that matter, though.

Just face, it, the Falklands are British, want to remain British, and shall remain British. Anything else is lunacy.

[Calimera II]

That opinion is opposed by many people and countries.

It is also supported by many people and countries.

I am still waiting for you to post a source for "the majority of countries supporting Argentina".

Ehm. I posted a map, there you can find a link, there you can find more or less 80 links on that issue. Don't be so lazy.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

It is also supported by many people and countries.

I am still waiting for you to post a source for "the majority of countries supporting Argentina".

Ehm. I posted a map, there you can find a link, there you can find more or less 80 links on that issue. Don't be so lazy.

Said map was wrong, wrong and again wrong. It was so wrong that it isn't even funny. Just read the last two pages and realize how utterly wrong that thing was.

[The balkens]

But they are wrong.

That opinion is opposed by many people and countries.

And the people of the Falklands VOTED to stay British.

Or are you only for Democracy when it favors your claims and beliefs?

[WestRedMaple]

No problem.

The issue, you see, with deciding things based on historical claims, i.e. irredentism, is that it NEVER FUCKING STOPS, ok? Some country will always feel they've been neglected, no matter what you do. This has been time tested, and it just does not work. It's simply a stupid game where everyone takes turns over territories, and, inherently, people, that they think they're entitled to, with a bunch of men getting killed each time the ball gets passed around, with each turn.

More important than national egos, more important than anything else, is PEACE. This can only be attained if we drop this barbaric way of doing things and rely on democracy and self-determination instead. There is no other way, no middle ground. The only way of ensuring peace is understanding that the ultimate right to a land are to those people who actually live on it, not some distant government seat pretending to act in their best interests whilst actually serving their own, AND that as long as people are pleased with how and by whom they're being governed, they are peaceful.

Do you get this?

You are acting like it is 'impossible' to be supporting Argentina's claim. And that's utterly annoying, especially since most countries in the world support Argentina's claim.

Let us know if you ever come up with any real sources for your claim

[Calimera II]

Ehm. I posted a map, there you can find a link, there you can find more or less 80 links on that issue. Don't be so lazy.

Said map was wrong, wrong and against wrong. It was so wrong that it isn't even funny. Just read the last two pages and realize how utterly wrong that thing was.

One source was wrongly interpreted so that entire map is wrong? You are a funny guy.

[Calimera II]

That opinion is opposed by many people and countries.

And the people of the Falklands VOTED to stay British.

Or are you only for Democracy when it favors your claims and beliefs?

I support democracy and I don't support modern colonialism. Problem?

[Drekka]

Heh. This won't stop Argentina from buying some competent hardware.
I'm sure Sukhoi will fill the bill.

Someone needs to make a polandball comic about this.

[The balkens]

And the people of the Falklands VOTED to stay British.

Or are you only for Democracy when it favors your claims and beliefs?

I support democracy and I don't support modern colonialism. Problem?

They voted to remain British, problem?

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

And the people of the Falklands VOTED to stay British.

Or are you only for Democracy when it favors your claims and beliefs?

I support democracy and I don't support modern colonialism. Problem?

Democracy says that the inhabitants want to be British. Problem?

[New Tsavon]

And the people of the Falklands VOTED to stay British.

Or are you only for Democracy when it favors your claims and beliefs?

I support democracy and I don't support modern colonialism. Problem?

Yes.

The Falklands want to stay British. Making them Argentinian would be as you said, "modern colonialism". Also, you'd end up loosing another war to Britain. Do you really want that to happen again?

[Calimera II]

Heh. This won't stop Argentina from buying some competent hardware.
I'm sure Sukhoi will fill the bill.

Yea. Putin is a good ally and otherwise Argentina has its good ally China.

Someone needs to make a polandball comic about this.

Yup

[The balkens]

I support democracy and I don't support modern colonialism. Problem?

Democracy says that the inhabitants want to be British. Problem?

Democracy doesnt mean jack shit because colonialism. *nods*

[Constaniana]

We don't have and never had anti-British propaganda on road signs..


Don't say bullshit.

Dark blue: Supports the British claim
Turqoise (US etc): Neutral
Everything red: Supports the Argentinean claim
(Image)

Source: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_di ... _Malvinas-
Falklands_dispute_to_2014.png

Curiously enough, the same article (https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_di ... _2010-2014) doesn't support what's in the pic.

Respaldo del G-77 y la República Popular China
La declaración final adoptada por aclamación, en su parte pertinente, señala: «Los ministros reafirmamos la necesidad de que el Gobierno de la República Argentina y el Reino Unido de Gran Bretaña e Irlanda del Norte reanuden las negociaciones, de conformidad con los principios y los objetivos de la Carta de las Naciones Unidas y las resoluciones pertinentes de la Asamblea General».


Which is NOT a support for the Argentine claim.

Respaldo de Italia
El pasado 19 de abril de 2012, el Canciller argentino visitó el Parlamento italiano donde expuso ante legisladores italianos la posición argentina y requirió el apoyo a las negociaciones pacíficas entre Buenos Aires y Londres.
Debido a ello, el 14 de mayo de 2012 un grupo de 48 parlamentarios italianos manifestaron su apoyo a la solicitud argentina de reabrir las negociaciones sobre el caso las Malvinas y enviaron un documento firmado al secretario general de la Organización de las Naciones Unidas (ONU), Ban Ki-moon, para que atienda el llamado del Gobierno de Cristina Fernández.

48 Italian MPs out of about 950 (630 deputati + 320ish senatori) is in NO WAY an Italian support for the Argentine claim over the Falklands.

He can't, because the only two sources show the same thing. Italy doesn't support it. 15% 5% of their lawmakersdo did.

Fixed.
Because there are about 950 MPs in Italy. And because we've had parliamentary elections in 2013, in case someone didn't notice.
Also, they signed a paper supporting negotiations over the issue at the UN, not supporting Argentine sovereignty tout court.

What makes that Italian letter even more delicious is the fact that the senator who began it was an Argentine soldier during the war. Utterly objective, that man, I'm sure.

[Washington Resistance Army]

And the people of the Falklands VOTED to stay British.

Or are you only for Democracy when it favors your claims and beliefs?

I support democracy and I don't support modern colonialism. Problem?

The people that live there don't want to be part of Argentina. That's it, they held a vote and overwhelmingly wanted to stay British. If you really support democracy you would accept that and stop supporting Argentina on the matter.

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

Said map was wrong, wrong and against wrong. It was so wrong that it isn't even funny. Just read the last two pages and realize how utterly wrong that thing was.

One source was wrongly interpreted so that entire map is wrong? You are a funny guy.

There's several things wrong about it. It grays out several nations that are a part of the EU that is neutral on the issue, China markedly does not support Argentina, the map is not shown on any other wikiepedia article on the issue and it is generally shoddily made.

[Dooom35796821595]

Heh. This won't stop Argentina from buying some competent hardware.
I'm sure Sukhoi will fill the bill.

Yea. Putin is a good ally and otherwise Argentina has its good ally China.

So you support Russia's annexation of Crimea?

[Gallifrey Secundaria]

Yea. Putin is a good ally and otherwise Argentina has its good ally China.

So you support Russia's annexation of Crimea?

And China's annexation of Tibet?

[Imperializt Russia]

So you support Russia's annexation of Crimea?

And China's annexation of Tibet?

Yeah, this "don't support modern colonialism" thing isn't working out so great.

[Drekka]

Yea. Putin is a good ally and otherwise Argentina has its good ally China.

So you support Russia's annexation of Crimea?

Lolwat? Where did that conclusion come from?
We were merely stating, from an unbiased point, that U.K does not hold a
monopoly on the worlds military industrial complex.