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Pakistani Christians Burned Alive By Muslims

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:19 pm
by Vamtrl
SLAMABAD, Pakistan — A mob accused of burning alive a Christian couple in an industrial kiln in Pakistan allegedly wrapped a pregnant mother in cotton so she would catch fire more easily, according to family members who witnessed the attack.

Sajjad Maseeh, 27, and his wife Shama Bibi, 24, were set upon by at least 1,200 people after rumors circulated that they had burned verses from the Quran, family spokesman Javed Maseeh told NBC News via telephone late Thursday. Their legs were also broken so they couldn't run away.

"They picked them up by their arms and legs and held them over the brick furnace until their clothes caught fire," he saiad. "And then they threw them inside the furnace."

Bibi, a mother of four who was four months pregnant, was wearing an outfit that initially didn't burn, according to Javed Maseeh. The mob removed her from over the kiln and wrapped her up in cotton to make sure the garments would be set alight.

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[Shama Bibi and Sajjad Maseeh were killed by a Muslim mob in Kot Radha Kishan, Pakistan.]

Although burning the Quran is technically punishable by death in Pakistan, Tuesday's killing in Punjab province has triggered protests by the country's Christians and prompted Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to say he would show "no mercy" to those responsible.

As rumors gathered pace that they had burned pages from the Muslim holy book, the couple tried to flee but were forbidden to leave by the brick factory's owner. Just like their parents, the slain pair worked under an arrangement of bonded labor and the owner said they owed him money.

Accompanied by a dozen people, factory owner Yousaf Gujjar allegedly went to the couple's home last weekend and locked them in an office so they couldn't leave. By Tuesday, loudspeaker announcements from local mosques were branding Sajjad and Shama as "blasphemous" and saying they should be "wajib-ul-qatal," which translates as "necessarily murdered," according to the family's account.

Unable to break down the office door, the swelling crowd ripped open the building’s thatched roof. "They first threw bricks at them," said Javed Maseeh, who is Sajjad's cousin. "Then they dragged them out" and burned them.

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[The roof of the room where Sajjad Maseeh and Shama Bibi were locked inside was ripped apart as the attacking mob came from all sides. According to eyewitnesses, the attackers pelted bricks at the young couple from the opening in the roof.]

Sajjad Maseeh, who was also known by his nickname "Shahbaz," was just seven years old when he started working at the factory. His family was tied to it through an arrangement of bonded labor whereby cross-generational debts were paid back through toil.

Sajjad Maseeh was born in the building where he was brutally murdered, according to his cousin.

"The bones are still being found," Javed Maseeh said. "Friends keep on collecting them and bringing them to us in batches of two or three. We will bury these bones when we have enough for the bodies. But we will not find all of them, I'm sure."

Whether or not the couple burned a Quran is still unclear. Sajjad Maseeh's brothers denied it. However, Mushtaq Gill, a lawyer and Christian rights activist in Pakistan, said verses from the religious text were among a pile of unwanted possessions owned by Sajjad Maseeh's recently deceased father. The belongings were cleared away and burned by Bibi, whom Gill said was "uneducated and probably didn't realize she was burning the Quran and not just any documents."

Before the mob attacked Bibi, a sister who recently converted to Islam played the role of mediator and offered her the option to adopt the religion to calm tensions, according to Javed Maseeh's account. "Shama rejected this proposal," he said.

The slain husband had a Muslin convert brother, Fayaz, who stayed in the village and is safe. But his three Christian brothers, Saleem, Imtiaz and Nawaz, witnessed the incident and spoke to NBC News through Javed Maseeh. They have escaped and are claiming their lives are now in danger.

Four suspects remain in custody and another 50 were booked and are being investigated, according to local police.

Pakistan’s Chief Minister Shahbaz Sharif, brother of Prime Minister Sharif, is promising the family five million rupees (around $50,000) and 10 acres of land in compensation.

According to the National Minority Alliance, Christians form under three percent of Pakistan’s estimated 180 million people.

Pakistan's much-debated "Blasphemy Law" is often used to target Christians and other minorities. In 2012, 14-year-old Rimsha Masih was falsely accused of burning the Quran, the sacred Islamic text. Charges were later dropped amid international concern for her safety, but the law, remains on the books.

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So this was pretty disgusting. Its events like these that really reaffirm my belief that religion (yes all of them) is a cancer upon mankind. Why do Muslims say that they are a religion of peace, yet have in place some of the most barbaric beliefs and practices involved. The ISIS for example is following the Qur'an to the dot, why then do people make excuses for Islam? I say this because people always shift the blame from the religion itself to the people who practice it, but when the religion has verses on killing apostates and people who "blasphemy" (which is frequently carried out), what more is there to say really -

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter, Except for those who return repenting before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” (5:33-34)



Also notice the slavery in the article? Disgusting.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:20 pm
by Sacred United Rome
Time for a Crusade. Deus Vult!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:20 pm
by The balkens
Sacred United Rome wrote:Time for a Crusade. Deus Vult!


no.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:28 pm
by Sacred United Rome
The balkens wrote:
Sacred United Rome wrote:Time for a Crusade. Deus Vult!


no.
The Lord wants the gospel to be spread and believed everywhere on earth, if has to be done by the sword by the sword it should be done.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:28 pm
by Kusengard
Further evidence - as if any were needed - that religion destroys everything it touches like a vortex of irrationality and inhumanity disguised as the will of God. Religion is a moral cancer that degrades and corrupts humanity, which in striving for heaven in the afterlife, merely makes a hell in earth.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:29 pm
by Land and Freedom
And some of the people that killed them would have been born and bonded to that factory since birth too. The opiate of the masses indeed.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:29 pm
by The balkens
Sacred United Rome wrote:
The balkens wrote:
no.
The Lord wants the gospel to be spread and believed everywhere on earth, if has to be done by the sword by the sword it should be done.


Do you have any idea how many Muslims there are on this planet? let alone in Pakistan or the rest of the Middle east?

you would start a world war!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:31 pm
by Miyager
Kusengard wrote:Further evidence - as if any were needed - that religion destroys everything it touches like a vortex of irrationality and inhumanity disguised as the will of God. Religion is a moral cancer that degrades and corrupts humanity, which in striving for heaven in the afterlife, merely makes a hell in earth.


I think this is a new record. You're like what? Post 5?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:32 pm
by Tyrinth
Time for another "Religion bad!" thread, eh?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:32 pm
by Imperializt Russia
Vamtrl wrote:So this was pretty disgusting. Its events like these that really reaffirm my belief that religion (yes all of them) is a cancer upon mankind. Why do Muslims say that they are a religion of peace, yet have in place some of the most barbaric beliefs and practices involved. The ISIS for example is following the Qur'an to the dot, why then do people make excuses for Islam? I say this because people always shift the blame from the religion itself to the people who practice it, but when the religion has verses on killing apostates and people who "blasphemy" (which is frequently carried out), what more is there to say really -

The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter, Except for those who return repenting before you apprehend them. And know that Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.” (5:33-34)



Also notice the slavery in the article? Disgusting.

The Bible and probably the Torah have very similar verses.

You act as though a few thousand cunts somehow represent the billion-plus Islamic adherents of the earth.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:32 pm
by Sacred United Rome
The balkens wrote:
Sacred United Rome wrote: The Lord wants the gospel to be spread and believed everywhere on earth, if has to be done by the sword by the sword it should be done.


Do you have any idea how many Muslims there are on this planet? let alone in Pakistan or the rest of the Middle east?

you would start a world war!
Christians are a minority but Christian majority states posses most of the worlds nuclear weapons, military power and territory. It would be a slaughter of heathens if Christians started demanding Holy wars.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:34 pm
by Archeuland and Baughistan
More martyrs for the gallant church of Christ. They shall have hero's reception in the kingdom of God. Meanwhile, the Islamists have the blood of the Church on their hands and Christ shall judge them as he sees fit.

Please pray for the Christian church across the world.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:38 pm
by The balkens
Sacred United Rome wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Do you have any idea how many Muslims there are on this planet? let alone in Pakistan or the rest of the Middle east?

you would start a world war!
Christians are a minority but Christian majority states posses most of the worlds nuclear weapons, military power and territory. It would be a slaughter of heathens if Christians started demanding Holy wars.


Did you know that Pakistan is a nuclear power?

Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:More martyrs for the gallant church of Christ. They shall have hero's reception in the kingdom of God. Meanwhile, the Islamists have the blood of the Church on their hands and Christ shall judge them as he sees fit.

Please pray for the Christian church across the world.


*Sigh*

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:41 pm
by Sacred United Rome
The balkens wrote:Did you know that Pakistan is a nuclear power?
A pathetically weak one.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:42 pm
by Vamtrl
Imperializt Russia wrote:
Vamtrl wrote:So this was pretty disgusting. Its events like these that really reaffirm my belief that religion (yes all of them) is a cancer upon mankind. Why do Muslims say that they are a religion of peace, yet have in place some of the most barbaric beliefs and practices involved. The ISIS for example is following the Qur'an to the dot, why then do people make excuses for Islam? I say this because people always shift the blame from the religion itself to the people who practice it, but when the religion has verses on killing apostates and people who "blasphemy" (which is frequently carried out), what more is there to say really -




Also notice the slavery in the article? Disgusting.

The Bible and probably the Torah have very similar verses.

You act as though a few thousand cunts somehow represent the billion-plus Islamic adherents of the earth.


I am aware of that.

Considering all Islamic states have blasphemy laws and the numerous incidents all over the world concerning this matter, there are a fairly large number of cunts.

I am also aware that there are Christian countries that have laws in place ( which is also terrible ) but when was the last time you heard one of them enforcing said laws?

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:43 pm
by The balkens
Sacred United Rome wrote:
The balkens wrote:Did you know that Pakistan is a nuclear power?
A pathetically weak one.


Yes, a weak power with a few nuclear bombs.

Jesus fucking christ, you want to throw the region into a Nuclear war, dont you? Kill a Billion people? what does it matter? they are just Muslims! god and his divine ways will scrub away the radiation and the ruined cities!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:44 pm
by Schirmerland2
Darn, that's disgusting.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:46 pm
by Manisdog
This is what happens when you give a particular religion an separate state. The existence of Pakistan proves that a religious state has been a failed state. Pakistan does not think about development and growth of its people but only thinks about two things

how to make the lives of its ethnic minorities miserable and kashmir

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:47 pm
by The balkens
Manisdog wrote:This is what happens when you give a particular religion an separate state. The existence of Pakistan proves that a religious state has failed state.


Iran seems to be doing ok, despite its assholeishness.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:49 pm
by Manisdog
The balkens wrote:
Manisdog wrote:This is what happens when you give a particular religion an separate state. The existence of Pakistan proves that a religious state has failed state.


Iran seems to be doing ok, despite its assholeishness.



Well you know what they did during the partition, pakistan has a lot of blood on its hands

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:49 pm
by Sacred United Rome
The balkens wrote:
Sacred United Rome wrote: A pathetically weak one.


Yes, a weak power with a few nuclear bombs.

Jesus fucking christ, you want to throw the region into a Nuclear war, dont you? Kill a Billion people? what does it matter? they are just Muslims! god and his divine ways will scrub away the radiation and the ruined cities!
Don't ever say the word fucking between the words Jesus and Christ, that is terrible.

Billions of deaths is worth a Christian world, death is not bad if it's for a righteous cause.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:51 pm
by The balkens
Sacred United Rome wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Yes, a weak power with a few nuclear bombs.

Jesus fucking christ, you want to throw the region into a Nuclear war, dont you? Kill a Billion people? what does it matter? they are just Muslims! god and his divine ways will scrub away the radiation and the ruined cities!
Don't ever say the word fucking between the words Jesus and Christ, that is terrible.

Billions of deaths is worth a Christian world, death is not bad if it's for a righteous cause.


Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Billions of deaths is not worth anything. at all.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:52 pm
by Manisdog
an interesting take on pakistan by salman rushdie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3vBSKeVw7Q&hd=1

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:54 pm
by Washington Resistance Army
Sacred United Rome wrote:
The balkens wrote:
Yes, a weak power with a few nuclear bombs.

Jesus fucking christ, you want to throw the region into a Nuclear war, dont you? Kill a Billion people? what does it matter? they are just Muslims! god and his divine ways will scrub away the radiation and the ruined cities!
Don't ever say the word fucking between the words Jesus and Christ, that is terrible.

Billions of deaths is worth a Christian world, death is not bad if it's for a righteous cause.


Jesus fucking Christ, I will say that as many times as I like when you're condoning nuclear war and the deaths of hundreds of millions of people. Fuck that, nothing is ever worth that many people dying.

PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2014 3:54 pm
by The Greater Ohio Valley
Sacred United Rome wrote:
The balkens wrote:Did you know that Pakistan is a nuclear power?
A pathetically weak one.

Enough to still start a pretty big fire.