Prostitution: What do you think of it ?

[Priddish]

Once again that is our society's failure to provide good jobs. Slavery is never willing. Did anybody willingly become a slave or an indentured servant. No circumstances or other people force them too.

Also labor is not slavery because they sell their work not their body. Workers still have dignity.

So do prostitutes. I've been friends with many, they love their work.

How could you enjoy slavery?

[Paid To Troll]

So do prostitutes. I've been friends with many, they love their work.

How could you enjoy slavery?

Because, shockingly, they were not slaves. They were actually happily employed and had health plans that took care of everything.

[Priddish]

How could you enjoy slavery?

Because, shockingly, they were not slaves. They were actually happily employed and had health plans that took care of everything.

Prostitution is slavery. Even if there are benefits they have had their rights taken away from them. They have become a service. They have become an object. Society has failed them and they need help. Surely they would enjoy a good normal job with the same benefits just as well. To be free of being a sex slave to others.

[Paid To Troll]

Because, shockingly, they were not slaves. They were actually happily employed and had health plans that took care of everything.

Prostitution is slavery. Even if there are benefits they have had their rights taken away from them. They have become a service. They have become an object. Society has failed them and they need help. S?urely they would enjoy a good normal job with the same benefits just as well. To be free of being a sex slave to others.

You need to prove your thesis, because right now all you're managing to do is attempt a tautology and that's not the best form of debate.

[Fanosolia]

Plus if I not mistake there are also males in the sex industry to. Sure they're also a minority, but I'm more than sure they exist.

Males in the pornography industry usually gets paid a lot less than women.

How much less?

[Paid To Troll]

Males in the pornography industry usually gets paid a lot less than women.

How much less?

Orders of magnitude.

[-The Trade Federation-]

How could you enjoy slavery?

Because, shockingly, they were not slaves. They were actually happily employed and had health plans that took care of everything.

I know a person who worked in erotic massaging for many years, which is the closest thing to prostitution.

SHE had a husband and two kids.

SHE had a comfortable home.

SHE was an independant worker that controlled her own money.

SHE had the full power to refuse clients, especially if they were too idiot to check her website before asking stupidly for the prices.

SHE was never abused or shamed by any clients.

SHE even befriended and liked a few of her clients.

And this is slavery ? In slavery, you are forced to accept, you are forced to give away all your money (if you even get any) to someone else, you get abused often, you don't befriend your clients (or bosses depending), you are not independant and you do not have a comfortable home in a middle-class neighbourhood.

Any more arguments, Mr. "Prostitution is bad bcuz slavurry ?"

[-The Trade Federation-]

There, a smashing reply.

[Fanosolia]

How much less?

Orders of magnitude.

Okay that much... wow
You mention supply and demand earlier i think right?
Is that why?

[Paid To Troll]

Orders of magnitude.

Okay that much... wow
You mention supply and demand earlier i think right?
Is that why?

Pretty much.

Most porn is consumed by men.

Most men consuming porn want women.

Most want women to be attractive and fit.

The number of attractive, and fit, women who want to do porn/prostitution is limited in scope.

The number of men willing to bang fit attractive women is mind bogglingly huge.

Supply and demand.

[Edward Scissorhands]

Okay that much... wow
You mention supply and demand earlier i think right?
Is that why?

Pretty much.

Most porn is consumed by men.

Most men consuming porn want women.

Most want women to be attractive and fit.

The number of attractive, and fit, women who want to do porn/prostitution is limited in scope.

The number of men willing to bang fit attractive women is mind bogglingly huge.

Supply and demand.

Sources for #1, #2 and #3?

[Paid To Troll]

Pretty much.

Most porn is consumed by men.

Most men consuming porn want women.

Most want women to be attractive and fit.

The number of attractive, and fit, women who want to do porn/prostitution is limited in scope.

The number of men willing to bang fit attractive women is mind bogglingly huge.

Supply and demand.

Sources for #1, #2 and #3?

College sociology course, gimme a bit and I'll see if I can find what textbook I had in that class. (By a bit I mean I'm not sure if I can find it but I will put a solid effort into backing my shit up.)

[Fanosolia]

Okay that much... wow
You mention supply and demand earlier i think right?
Is that why?

Pretty much.

Most porn is consumed by men.

Most men consuming porn want women.

Most want women to be attractive and fit.

The number of attractive, and fit, women who want to do porn/prostitution is limited in scope.

The number of men willing to bang fit attractive women is mind bogglingly huge.

Supply and demand.

I guess that makes sense. Maybe one day it might equal out. Probably not in my generation but who knows.

[Paid To Troll]

Pretty much.

Most porn is consumed by men.

Most men consuming porn want women.

Most want women to be attractive and fit.

The number of attractive, and fit, women who want to do porn/prostitution is limited in scope.

The number of men willing to bang fit attractive women is mind bogglingly huge.

Supply and demand.

Sources for #1, #2 and #3?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17039402 as a start, though.

[Islamic Republic e Jariri]

Prostitution only exist in the first place because of the government's failure to implement progressive social and welfare policies that leads these people having to resort to selling their own bodies just to get by, its not criminalization of prostitution that will make a difference, but the government keeping its citizens above the poverty line that will.

[Paid To Troll]

Prostitution only exist in the first place because of the government's failure to implement progressive social and welfare policies that leads these people having to resort to selling their own bodies just to get by, its not criminalization of prostitution that will make a difference, but the government keeping its citizens above the poverty line that will.

Unlikely, considering many people who utilize prostitutes are wealthy.

[Ethel mermania]

Prostitution only exist in the first place because of the government's failure to implement progressive social and welfare policies that leads these people having to resort to selling their own bodies just to get by, its not criminalization of prostitution that will make a difference, but the government keeping its citizens above the poverty line that will.

Its not up to governments to keep people from being poor, that's the individuals job. I make a decent living, I don't m?ake anywhere near 200 an hour. if someone paid me that I would be a prostitute. It pays much better than my middle class job.

[-The Trade Federation-]

Prostitution only exist in the first place because of the government's failure to implement progressive social and welfare policies that leads these people having to resort to selling their own bodies just to get by, its not criminalization of prostitution that will make a difference, but the government keeping its citizens above the poverty line that will.

Its not up to governments to keep people from being poor, that's the individuals job. I make a decent living, I don't m?ake anywhere near 200 an hour. if someone paid me that I would be a prostitute. It pays much better than my middle class job.

Here's my little theory:

The free education the government gives is basically a rock. If everyone threw their rocks, all the same weight and volume, at the same time, some rocks would end up further and some people wouldn't have thrown their rocks.

[UBS]

hmmm,we pay money to watch people strip,we pay money to watch people have sex with other people (porn),so why should we not be able to pay to have sex with people,just as long as the person is doing it because they want to,not because there forced.

[The Carlisle]

How many times to we have to blast it in the conservatives' ears...

PROSTITUTION (Excluding forced prostitution, the REAL forced prostitution, not the chimeras you keep bringing up) IS NOT SLAVERY. Also, it's the world's oldest profession. Want to ban something that has existed for thousands of years ? Good luck with that.

I'm not a conservative, i am anti-slavery however. Hunting is actually the worlds oldest profession. regular slavery was old too and we still rightfully banned it. Stop supporting the enslavement of men and women.

You can't be anti-slavery.

If you were anti-slavery, you would support legal, regulated prostitution. Supporting the status quo or making it illegal is supporting sex slavery.

[Ostroeuropa]

It should obviously be legal, for the usual arguments.
The prohibitionists don't seem to actually have any that line up with reality.

[The Seleucids (Ancient)]

Courageous people? I'm surprised that option has that many votes. There's nothing courageous about prostitution :/

Remember, prostitutes often get clients that can't get sexual gratification from (perceptually) normal methods.

In short, people can be really disgusting. And prostitutes have sex with disgusting. That's some courage.

This isn't really true...
The vast majority of clients are still looking for just casual sex. Now sure there are people who want all kinds of wierd and yeah sometimes disgusting stuff, though a prostitute can refuse any client she wants, she can set her own rules on what she does and what she doesn't.

[The Seleucids (Ancient)]

1.You ever thought about the fact that some woman want to be a prostitute? I agree that alot of poor woman do it as a last resort, but prostitution is far from slavery. Don't think that the world ends at you own nations borders. There are countries where its legal and regulated, minimizing forced prostitutiion and other backwards stuff that could happen.
2.So prostitutes don't have dignity?
3.Prostitutes are far from an object, even from the perspective as their clients. Clients want fun, if the prostitute doesnt have fun (being an object) the client won't have fun either.
4.bought and sold?
5.Woman are human beings who are perfectly capable of making their own decisions!

Some links against prostitution legalization:
http://www.isha.org.il/eng/docs/p180/
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/lega ... g-business
http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/mhvlegal.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html
http://stopprostitution.net/legalizatio ... oesnt-work

1. How many? Prostitution is slavery. When you sell your body you are a slave. In Germany where prostitution is legalized, there has been no justice for these poor women and men. There has only been a green card given for more control over their lives. Why can we not guarantee these women good professional jobs like factory workers, doctors, CEOs, or other respectable jobs they deserve. Should we legalize and regulate slavery or indentured service as well? Prostitution is the epitome of male dominance over women, they only see them as commodities. This goes for male prostitutes as well.

2. They don't have the dignity they deserve as women and men because people enslave them and strip their rights away. The very idea that sex is a thing you can pay for, that it is a commodity, is despicable. If society is to truly progress, people or their bodies must not be for sale. We must help these people get out of prostitution and into the normal economy. We should not punish them, for it is not their fault. They need society's help.

3.Prostitutes are objects to others, even if they say they don't see them that way. When you reduce people to a service to be paid for, they become objects. This is not right. People are not services, we can achieve gender equality if they become services. Clients should not demand "fun" from others. If they want this "fun", like everything in life they must earn it, not with money but through love and dedication to another man or woman.

4. Prostitution is a service. It is also slavery. People pay the prostitutes for sex, they prostitutes often are forced to comply because they can be punished if they don't. They become objects and the clients take their dignity as humans away. This is wrong, people are not commodities.

5. They are. Women and men are fully independent and can make their own decisions. But there comes a point when you must realize that this has been forced on people. Prostitution is not voluntary. They are forced into it, because we as a society have failed them. We have not provided good jobs and helped those who are stuck in it. We must help them get out and help achieve their full potential. We as a people, must do no less for other members of society.

I do not want to see prostitutes punished, like I said before they need our help to get out. Legalization will only entrench the slavery. We must oppose slavery in all it's forms. All these carnal desires are a stain on humanity, human rights, and even democracy.

I'll get back later today on this

[Paid To Troll]

Remember, prostitutes often get clients that can't get sexual gratification from (perceptually) normal methods.

In short, people can be really disgusting. And prostitutes have sex with disgusting. That's some courage.

This isn't really true...
The vast majority of clients are still looking for just casual sex. Now sure there are people who want all kinds of wierd and yeah sometimes disgusting stuff, though a prostitute can refuse any client she wants, she can set her own rules on what she does and what she doesn't.

I mean people can be disgusting. As in physically unappealing and mouthbreathing.

As I have several friends who are prostitutes, I'm confident that I'm underselling their opinions.

[-The Trade Federation-]

This isn't really true...
The vast majority of clients are still looking for just casual sex. Now sure there are people who want all kinds of wierd and yeah sometimes disgusting stuff, though a prostitute can refuse any client she wants, she can set her own rules on what she does and what she doesn't.

I mean people can be disgusting. As in physically unappealing and mouthbreathing.

As I have several friends who are prostitutes, I'm confident that I'm underselling their opinions.

Uh ?