Prostitution: What do you think of it ?

[Imperium of Tanith]

Here's one: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Seeing as porn shoots normally do not take over 6 hours iirc, that's a whole lotta cash.

Indeed, people should not think that they do it as a last resort or anything.

Eh, for some it's a living, I mean Ron Jeremy's net worth is about 10 million currently and makes approximately 970k a year, and I don't even want to know what he was making in his prime...

The guys in a hetero porn shoot normally get something around the 300 dollar zone.

[The Seleucids (Ancient)]

Indeed, people should not think that they do it as a last resort or anything.

Eh, for some it's a living, I mean Ron Jeremy's net worth is about 10 million currently and makes approximately 970k a year, and I don't even want to know what he was making in his prime...

The guys in a hetero porn shoot normally get something around the 300 dollar zone.

True, guys get alot less then woman, but hey, you don't hear them complaining about it so...

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

The problem is 99% of porn actress’s ether resort to it for lack of better options to make $, or are slaves. viewing porn sites that are free to view, pays advertisers that pay the site, that pays directors/pimps/rapists/kidnappers/slavers

Advertisers here are blocked by extensions before they even download and I'm most likely not counted by their numbers, risas.

[Xtoshtia]

It is a tricky subject. If people wanna sell their bodies, that's fine. The whole pimping thing, where they have a manager, is not always good if the manager is cruel. Like in a real business, prostitutes should have certain rights, of course they cannot because it is illegal in A LOT of places. The bad thing is that they can spread STDs, which of course, is a bad thing. The best thing to do, is to have a type of card where prostitutes can have weekly or monthly blood tests and see if they have STDs. If they do, their card is taken away meaning they cannot legally prostitute. The "customer" (I guess) must also be screened. Like you would need a certain card as well in order to be prostituted (is that the verb?) Anyways, if precautions are taken, it is a pretty good idea. Those who are forced into it because they need money, would now have the ability to be medically safe while "at work". A whole list of laws could be made to create a new sector of business, but frankly I don't think the world is ready for this. Too many people would bother the prostitutes (harrasement, both sexual and social).

[Scomagia]

That's arguably a result of prostitution being illegal, not necessarily a result of prostitution itself.

I'm inclined to agree, but America is annoying unwilling to try shit out, both to antiquated conservatives and misinformed liberals.

... The irony...

People are just misinformed as to the effects of criminalizing goods and services. If they're better educated, they'll understand how making drugs and prostitution illegal is more harmful than either of those things are on their own. In fact, that's a large part of why Prop 91 passed here in Oregon. The debate wasn't phrased in terms of rights, it was phrased in terms of harm. The YesOn91 cats did a good job of pointing out the economic and social harms caused by Cannabis Prohibition, which rings more true to people than saying "we have a right to do this".

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

The "customer" (I guess) must also be screened.

My country got so outdated with this Evangelical bench, that it doesn't even have HIV home tests being sold. Like anywhere. We were commended by the UN on HIV/AIDS policy by the early 2000s.

Seriously.

[The Seleucids (Ancient)]

It is a tricky subject. If people wanna sell their bodies, that's fine. The whole pimping thing, where they have a manager, is not always good if the manager is cruel. Like in a real business, prostitutes should have certain rights, of course they cannot because it is illegal in A LOT of places. The bad thing is that they can spread STDs, which of course, is a bad thing. The best thing to do, is to have a type of card where prostitutes can have weekly or monthly blood tests and see if they have STDs. If they do, their card is taken away meaning they cannot legally prostitute. The "customer" (I guess) must also be screened. Like you would need a certain card as well in order to be prostituted (is that the verb?) Anyways, if precautions are taken, it is a pretty good idea. Those who are forced into it because they need money, would now have the ability to be medically safe while "at work". A whole list of laws could be made to create a new sector of business, but frankly I don't think the world is ready for this. Too many people would bother the prostitutes (harrasement, both sexual and social).

The world is ready actually, its already legal in alot of countries, in other countries its illegal but nobody really cares. Then there are aslo countries where its already legal and regulated to minimize forced prostitution, child prostitution, abuse ect.

[Imperium of Tanith]

Eh, for some it's a living, I mean Ron Jeremy's net worth is about 10 million currently and makes approximately 970k a year, and I don't even want to know what he was making in his prime...

The guys in a hetero porn shoot normally get something around the 300 dollar zone.

True, guys get alot less then woman, but hey, you don't hear them complaining about it so...

Honestly, if you got offered to bone a really hot chick on camera for 300 dollars, I don't think there's a lot of men out there that would turn it down, myself included.

[Des-Bal]

I don't see a problem with it. The idea that it's awful because people may have no other option neglects the fact that in that situation they still personally chose it and found it to be preferable to going without.

[Freemopia]

Pictures and videos of sex is not the problem, can't harm anyone, and shouldn't be banned.
The problem is 99% of porn actress’s ether resort to it for lack of better options to make $, or are slaves. viewing porn sites that are free to view, pays advertisers that pay the site, that pays directors/pimps/rapists/kidnappers/slavers, that pay, coerce, or force/rape/drug/abuse "performers/actresses".
Don't ban pictures/videos of porn. Ban kidnapping, abuse/neglect, slavery, stealing from poor people and not letting them independently live off the land and not letting them get a good job(often a result from excessive government blocks, regulations and taxation) resulting them to become easy targets and desperate...

People who view pictures/videos of sex should be shamed, and socially excluded until they admit it was wrong and permanently stop.

Instead of viewing pictures/videos of sex:
1. do other fun things like eat delicious fruit/healthy food, dance, sing, make music, listen to music, swim, exercise, socialize, party, dance party, grow food, garden, design, draw, watch funny or educational shows/videos, adopt/pet animals, build houses, make soap, make water filters, do a job that you like, learn how to make things you want, help others, give to the poor, make world peace, religion, pray.
2. Get realistic heated sex robot doll
3. play sexual cartoon video games
4. turn gay (have free sex with male who isn't paid to have sex)
5. chop off ball and dick
6. kill yourself

I'd like to see a source for that cause the averange pornstar makes more money then most people do and aren't forced into it at all. They often do it for the publicity, money and fun.
Please talk to a prostitute/pornstar before talking about their lives.

A porn star is like a movie star, someone who is popular and often has some riches, not the average actress/actor.
Reading from a "source" and the truth arn't always the same thing. A few might be making alot of $, exsept some of the $ they make often goes to other people too. other people are often making $ off them too, and in some cases porn actress's with a desent amount of $ are coerced/abused/threatened into sex by others who are also making alot of $ off them or stealing from them.

[Spoder]

I'd like to see a source for that cause the averange pornstar makes more money then most people do and aren't forced into it at all. They often do it for the publicity, money and fun.
Please talk to a prostitute/pornstar before talking about their lives.

A porn star is like a movie star, someone who is popular and often has some riches, not the average actress/actor.
Reading from a "source" and the truth arn't always the same thing. A few might be making alot of $, exsept some of the $ they make often goes to other people too. other people are often making $ off them too, and in some cases porn actress's with a desent amount of $ are coerced/abused/threatened into sex by others who are also making alot of $ off them or stealing from them.

There's a difference between "a few" and 99%.

[Imperium of Tanith]

A porn star is like a movie star, someone who is popular and often has some riches, not the average actress/actor.
Reading from a "source" and the truth arn't always the same thing. A few might be making alot of $, exsept some of the $ they make often goes to other people too. other people are often making $ off them too, and in some cases porn actress's with a desent amount of $ are coerced/abused/threatened into sex by others who are also making alot of $ off them or stealing from them.

There's a difference between "a few" and 99%.

He's got a point, the only people I honestly can think of that aren't getting paid that much are probably the Amateur videos that do 1 video and then go on with their lives.

[Page]

I think it should be legalized but only under certain circumstances: there should be licensed brothels and all the employed sex workers should have ownership or a union.

Street prostitution should be illegal but only for pimps and clients, the sex workers themselves should not be arrested.

[Freemopia]

Watching a show on it and knowing the truth arn't always the same thing.
Just because you might not see obvious force/coercion, doesn't mean it isn't happening, it's often happening behind the scenes.

Maybe I can't convience to care about others, now. You'll never convience me to pretend like it's not as bad as it is. I hope u will find better options of entertainment, like what I already listed.

"Knowing the truth"
Like said before, source? Ever talked to one of those woman?

Also, where do you see this "Obvious" force? please tell.
You now suddenly know what's going on behind the scenes?

At last, you claim its bad, this while you fail to see any of the good sides, any of the countries that actually properly legalized it. You make it worse then it actually is.

Prostitution and pornography should be legal (I already said that).
I hope some day you will care about others and not want them to do risky activities they don't really want to and harm them self just for $, and not be enslaved and abused for your entertainment.
Please try finding a better way to entertain yourself.
Instead of watching people have sex:
1. Other fun things you can do are eat delicious fruit/healthy food, dance, sing, make music, listen to music, swim, exercise, socialize, party, dance party, grow food, garden, design, draw, watch funny or educational shows/videos, adopt/pet animals, build houses, make soap, make water filters, do a job that you like, learn how to make things you want, help others, give to the poor, make world peace, religion, pray.
2. Get realistic heated sex robot doll
3. play sexual cartoon video games
4. turn gay (have free sex with male who isn't paid to have sex)
5. chop off ball and dick
6. kill yourself
7. maybe quit being a selfish perv, care about others, and try to find a normal gf.

[Freemopia]

A porn star is like a movie star, someone who is popular and often has some riches, not the average actress/actor.
Reading from a "source" and the truth arn't always the same thing. A few might be making alot of $, exsept some of the $ they make often goes to other people too. other people are often making $ off them too, and in some cases porn actress's with a desent amount of $ are coerced/abused/threatened into sex by others who are also making alot of $ off them or stealing from them.

There's a difference between "a few" and 99%.

Right. The few i am referring to less than 1% of porn performers are rich famous porn stars.

[Farnhamia]

"Knowing the truth"
Like said before, source? Ever talked to one of those woman?

Also, where do you see this "Obvious" force? please tell.
You now suddenly know what's going on behind the scenes?

At last, you claim its bad, this while you fail to see any of the good sides, any of the countries that actually properly legalized it. You make it worse then it actually is.

Prostitution and pornography should be legal (I already said that).
I hope some day you will care about others and not want them to do risky activities they don't really want to and harm them self just for $, and not be enslaved and abused for your entertainment.
Please try finding a better way to entertain yourself.
Instead of watching people have sex:
1. Other fun things you can do are eat delicious fruit/healthy food, dance, sing, make music, listen to music, swim, exercise, socialize, party, dance party, grow food, garden, design, draw, watch funny or educational shows/videos, adopt/pet animals, build houses, make soap, make water filters, do a job that you like, learn how to make things you want, help others, give to the poor, make world peace, religion, pray.
2. Get realistic heated sex robot doll
3. play sexual cartoon video games
4. turn gay (have free sex with male who isn't paid to have sex)
5. chop off ball and dick
6. kill yourself
7. maybe quit being a selfish perv, care about others, and try to find a normal gf.

5 & 6. *** Warned for trolling ***

[Soselo]

Sex should be free, people who pay for it are being swindled.

[Des-Bal]

Sex should be free, people who pay for it are being swindled.

People who pay for bottle water are being swindled.

[Constantinopolis]

People are just misinformed as to the effects of criminalizing goods and services. If they're better educated, they'll understand how making drugs and prostitution illegal is more harmful than either of those things are on their own. In fact, that's a large part of why Prop 91 passed here in Oregon. The debate wasn't phrased in terms of rights, it was phrased in terms of harm. The YesOn91 cats did a good job of pointing out the economic and social harms caused by Cannabis Prohibition, which rings more true to people than saying "we have a right to do this".

You know, I support cannabis legalization, but I really don't buy this "everything is like cannabis. EVERYTHING." argument.

I mean, forget prostitution for a second, do you believe that ALL drugs should be legalized? Most people who think cannabis should be legal - including myself - don't think the same about crack cocaine.

Or what about other chemical substances? Do you really believe that "criminalizing goods and services" - any goods and services - is a bad idea? Should it be legal for me to buy any chemical substance I want in any quantities I want? People didn't like it when I used heavy weapons as an example of goods whose sale should be banned, but I could just as easily make the same argument about a wide range of dangerous chemicals that no one in his right mind would want to see legalized.

Again, you seem to be starting from the assumption that what holds true for alcohol and weed holds true for EVERYTHING that people might want to buy and sell. Uh, no. It doesn't. It really doesn't.

[Firsthome]

Sex should be free, people who pay for it are being swindled.

People who pay for bottle water are being swindled.

Well water man, way of the future :3

[Priddish]

Prostitution is a form of modern slavery. We must do everything we can to get these poor women out of their. They need real jobs that give them the dignity that they deserve. It sickening that they become an object, a service to be bought and sold. Women are not commodities! Women deserve more dignity than to be treated as a sex object! This goes for male prostitutes as well.

[Shilya]

Truth be told I would place a state monopoly on prostitution,ban street walking and pimping and mostly regulate the porn industry.

Not a chain of private clubs called The Red Rose Ring Clubs?

Make it the Combine of Courtesans, Concubines and Prostitutes!

[CTALNH]

Not a chain of private clubs called The Red Rose Ring Clubs?

Make it the Combine of Courtesans, Concubines and Prostitutes!

Do not make fun of my dear Red Rose Ring Clubs.

They made me filthy rich in Aurentina.

[-Ebola-]

Ebola.

Oh, for the Cosmos's sake! The media starts freaking out about Ebola and suddenly everyone is using it as a political talking point? Is Ebola the new HIV/AIDS now, to be irresponsibly used to smear every group conservatives are afraid of?

Looks like. You humans are obsessed with me.

[The Seleucids (Ancient)]

I'd like to see a source for that cause the averange pornstar makes more money then most people do and aren't forced into it at all. They often do it for the publicity, money and fun.
Please talk to a prostitute/pornstar before talking about their lives.

A porn star is like a movie star, someone who is popular and often has some riches, not the average actress/actor.
Reading from a "source" and the truth arn't always the same thing. A few might be making alot of $, exsept some of the $ they make often goes to other people too. other people are often making $ off them too, and in some cases porn actress's with a desent amount of $ are coerced/abused/threatened into sex by others who are also making alot of $ off them or stealing from them.

THe average actress even makes more money then the average person.
Also, your claims isn't the same as the truth either, so again, source.

Like you say right there "Some" which equals a minority, which already shows that it should not be banned, just better regulated. Or should we ban the army aswell, becouse you know, abuse and rape happens sometimes...