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How do you view prostitutes ?

Courageous people that should be respected for what they do for their families and their future. Prostitution should be legalized.
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Normal people, I don't see what is so special about them.
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Mmphr, disgusting but tolerable.
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Street filth, the whole bunch of them. Prostitution should be criminalized.
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Total votes : 517

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Postby Freemopia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:41 pm

Tyrandel wrote:
Freemopia wrote:3. play sexual cartoon video games
4. turn gay
5. chop off ball and dick
6. kill yourself


Way ahead of you on 3 and 4. Gonna have to opt out of 5 and 6 though, I'm not into mutiliation or necrophilia.

Also, male prostitutes catering to homosexual men do exist. And women are capable of hiring prostitutes.

lol. i know. i meant males having free sex with males.

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Postby The Flood » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:44 pm

-The Trade Federation- wrote:
The Flood wrote:Block the sites from other countries if they refuse to remove the porn.
To be honest, blocking and/or censoring pornography would spark such protests and riots that a government trying to ban these types of things are just outright wrong.
Besides, what's wrong with pornography (by this, I mean the good type of porn) ?
Who cares if people protest? Let them. They'll give up eventually.

Good type of porn? There's no such thing. All of it is evil and immoral, and deserves to be destroyed.
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Postby The Flood » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:45 pm

The Seleucids wrote:
The Flood wrote:You mean, the prostitutes, not the women. Most people in Canada are not at all supportive of prostitution. Not even Canada is that liberal.
So prostitutes aren't woman?
No, I'm saying only the prostitutes complained about penalizing their clients. Regular women did not.
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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:49 pm

The Flood wrote:
-The Trade Federation- wrote:To be honest, blocking and/or censoring pornography would spark such protests and riots that a government trying to ban these types of things are just outright wrong.
Besides, what's wrong with pornography (by this, I mean the good type of porn) ?
Who cares if people protest? Let them. They'll give up eventually.

Good type of porn? There's no such thing. All of it is evil and immoral, and deserves to be destroyed.


I actually liked two girls one cup :P

To be serious, please, explain why there isn't any good "type" of porn.

The Flood wrote:
The Seleucids wrote:So prostitutes aren't woman?
No, I'm saying only the prostitutes complained about penalizing their clients. Regular women did not.


Which isn't wierd becouse they are the ones that get into trouble becouse of it.

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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:51 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:Ebola.

Oh, for the Cosmos's sake! The media starts freaking out about Ebola and suddenly everyone is using it as a political talking point? Is Ebola the new HIV/AIDS now, to be irresponsibly used to smear every group conservatives are afraid of?
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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:51 pm

The Flood wrote:
The Seleucids wrote:So prostitutes aren't woman?
No, I'm saying only the prostitutes complained about penalizing their clients. Regular women did not.

Source?
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Postby Vespalia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:54 pm

Liriena wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Ebola.

Oh, for the Cosmos's sake! The media starts freaking out about Ebola and suddenly everyone is using it as a political talking point? Is Ebola the new HIV/AIDS now, to be irresponsibly used to smear every group conservatives are afraid of?

After all, doesn't it boil down to them having a "disease" in the conservative mind?
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Postby Vespalia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:55 pm

The Seleucids wrote:
The Flood wrote:Who cares if people protest? Let them. They'll give up eventually.

Good type of porn? There's no such thing. All of it is evil and immoral, and deserves to be destroyed.


I actually liked two girls one cup :P

To be serious, please, explain why there isn't any good "type" of porn.

The Flood wrote:No, I'm saying only the prostitutes complained about penalizing their clients. Regular women did not.


Which isn't wierd becouse they are the ones that get into trouble becouse of it.

Don't...that's disgusting. That video...eeeww.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:56 pm

Cetacea wrote:
Firsthome wrote:1 word. Pimp


SOOBs are the answer.
In NZ Small Owner Operated Brothels are legal, and can not have more than four prostitutes operating from the premises. If there are more than four prostitutes operating from a premises (eg a Strip club) then an Brothel Operators certificate is required with stringent suitability criteria designed to keep criminal elements out.

The point is it makes Pimps illegal not prostitution per se.

Prostitutes also have strict Health and Safety rules (condoms are mandatory) and are taxed like normal small partnerships.


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Postby Liriena » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:57 pm

Vespalia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Oh, for the Cosmos's sake! The media starts freaking out about Ebola and suddenly everyone is using it as a political talking point? Is Ebola the new HIV/AIDS now, to be irresponsibly used to smear every group conservatives are afraid of?

After all, doesn't it boil down to them having a "disease" in the conservative mind?

I mean, Ebola has existed for a long time, but suddenly everyone and their mothers' feel like talking about it everywhere they can get away with it?
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Postby Freemopia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:01 pm

The Flood wrote:
-The Trade Federation- wrote:To be honest, blocking and/or censoring pornography would spark such protests and riots that a government trying to ban these types of things are just outright wrong.
Besides, what's wrong with pornography (by this, I mean the good type of porn) ?
Who cares if people protest? Let them. They'll give up eventually.

Good type of porn? There's no such thing. All of it is evil and immoral, and deserves to be destroyed.

Pictures and videos of sex is not the problem, can't harm anyone, and shouldn't be banned.
The problem is 99% of porn actress’s ether resort to it for lack of better options to make $, or are slaves. viewing porn sites that are free to view, pays advertisers that pay the site, that pays directors/pimps/rapists/kidnappers/slavers, that pay, coerce, or force/rape/drug/abuse "performers/actresses".
Don't ban pictures/videos of porn. Ban kidnapping, abuse/neglect, slavery, stealing from poor people and not letting them independently live off the land and not letting them get a good job(often a result from excessive government blocks, regulations and taxation) resulting them to become easy targets and desperate...

People who view pictures/videos of sex should be shamed, and socially excluded until they admit it was wrong and permanently stop.

Instead of viewing pictures/videos of sex:
1. do other fun things like eat delicious fruit/healthy food, dance, sing, make music, listen to music, swim, exercise, socialize, party, dance party, grow food, garden, design, draw, watch funny or educational shows/videos, adopt/pet animals, build houses, make soap, make water filters, do a job that you like, learn how to make things you want, help others, give to the poor, make world peace, religion, pray.
2. Get realistic heated sex robot doll
3. play sexual cartoon video games
4. turn gay (have free sex with male who isn't paid to have sex)
5. chop off ball and dick
6. kill yourself

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Postby Scomagia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:01 pm

Liriena wrote:
Vespalia wrote:After all, doesn't it boil down to them having a "disease" in the conservative mind?

I mean, Ebola has existed for a long time, but suddenly everyone and their mothers' feel like talking about it everywhere they can get away with it?

Welcome to the effects of irresponsible Infotainment.
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Postby -The Trade Federation- » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:05 pm

Freemopia wrote:
The Flood wrote:Who cares if people protest? Let them. They'll give up eventually.

Good type of porn? There's no such thing. All of it is evil and immoral, and deserves to be destroyed.

Pictures and videos of sex is not the problem, can't harm anyone, and shouldn't be banned.
The problem is 99% of porn actress’s ether resort to it for lack of better options to make $, or are slaves. viewing porn sites that are free to view, pays advertisers that pay the site, that pays directors/pimps/rapists/kidnappers/slavers, that pay, coerce, or force/rape/drug/abuse "performers/actresses".
Don't ban pictures/videos of porn. Ban kidnapping, abuse/neglect, slavery, stealing from poor people and not letting them independently live off the land and not letting them get a good job(often a result from excessive government blocks, regulations and taxation) resulting them to become easy targets and desperate...

People who view pictures/videos of sex should be shamed, and socially excluded until they admit it was wrong and permanently stop.

Instead of viewing pictures/videos of sex:
1. do other fun things like eat delicious fruit/healthy food, dance, sing, make music, listen to music, swim, exercise, socialize, party, dance party, grow food, garden, design, draw, watch funny or educational shows/videos, adopt/pet animals, build houses, make soap, make water filters, do a job that you like, learn how to make things you want, help others, give to the poor, make world peace, religion, pray.
2. Get realistic heated sex robot doll
3. play sexual cartoon video games
4. turn gay (have free sex with male who isn't paid to have sex)
5. chop off ball and dick
6. kill yourself


I've watched a show on pornography and you would be surprised. Females usually are pornstars because they consider it a professional job while men are pornstars because of the same reason (or they just seek a bit of fun or extra cash).

Also, the producers aren't all evil -_-

EDIT: Show's called "Classé XXX", which is French for "Classified XXX"
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Postby Imperium of Tanith » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:13 pm

Brothels can and always be a legitimate business in my eyes, after all the only difference between them and a Macy's is what they are selling.

But if Prostitution in the sense of Brothels were legalized, it could be fixed up and made to where it's safer then just having girls walk the streets for some pimp. Regulations could be enacted to ensure that both patron and worker are practicing safe sex, there's healthcare and insurance available for those that do happen to get sick, ect. I mean, aside from the STD problem (mostly herpes), Brothels in the old West were quite profitable and well-ran, because the bosses actually cared about their girls and their welfare, unlike the pimps that force girls in the big cities.

If it were legalized, while they would be more expensive, they would be safe and the amount of danger involved would be diminished.

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Postby The Rich Port » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:13 pm

Scomagia wrote:
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That's a problem with a lot of prostitution.

There is coercion involved often between some pimps and prostitutes, not necessarily as often between prostitutes and johns.

That's arguably a result of prostitution being illegal, not necessarily a result of prostitution itself.


I'm inclined to agree, but America is annoying unwilling to try shit out, both to antiquated conservatives and misinformed liberals.

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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:14 pm

Freemopia wrote:
The Flood wrote:Who cares if people protest? Let them. They'll give up eventually.

Good type of porn? There's no such thing. All of it is evil and immoral, and deserves to be destroyed.

Pictures and videos of sex is not the problem, can't harm anyone, and shouldn't be banned.
The problem is 99% of porn actress’s ether resort to it for lack of better options to make $, or are slaves. viewing porn sites that are free to view, pays advertisers that pay the site, that pays directors/pimps/rapists/kidnappers/slavers, that pay, coerce, or force/rape/drug/abuse "performers/actresses".
Don't ban pictures/videos of porn. Ban kidnapping, abuse/neglect, slavery, stealing from poor people and not letting them independently live off the land and not letting them get a good job(often a result from excessive government blocks, regulations and taxation) resulting them to become easy targets and desperate...

People who view pictures/videos of sex should be shamed, and socially excluded until they admit it was wrong and permanently stop.

Instead of viewing pictures/videos of sex:
1. do other fun things like eat delicious fruit/healthy food, dance, sing, make music, listen to music, swim, exercise, socialize, party, dance party, grow food, garden, design, draw, watch funny or educational shows/videos, adopt/pet animals, build houses, make soap, make water filters, do a job that you like, learn how to make things you want, help others, give to the poor, make world peace, religion, pray.
2. Get realistic heated sex robot doll
3. play sexual cartoon video games
4. turn gay (have free sex with male who isn't paid to have sex)
5. chop off ball and dick
6. kill yourself


I'd like to see a source for that cause the averange pornstar makes more money then most people do and aren't forced into it at all. They often do it for the publicity, money and fun.
Please talk to a prostitute/pornstar before talking about their lives.
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Postby Imperium of Tanith » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:17 pm

The Seleucids wrote:
Freemopia wrote:Pictures and videos of sex is not the problem, can't harm anyone, and shouldn't be banned.
The problem is 99% of porn actress’s ether resort to it for lack of better options to make $, or are slaves. viewing porn sites that are free to view, pays advertisers that pay the site, that pays directors/pimps/rapists/kidnappers/slavers, that pay, coerce, or force/rape/drug/abuse "performers/actresses".
Don't ban pictures/videos of porn. Ban kidnapping, abuse/neglect, slavery, stealing from poor people and not letting them independently live off the land and not letting them get a good job(often a result from excessive government blocks, regulations and taxation) resulting them to become easy targets and desperate...

People who view pictures/videos of sex should be shamed, and socially excluded until they admit it was wrong and permanently stop.

Instead of viewing pictures/videos of sex:
1. do other fun things like eat delicious fruit/healthy food, dance, sing, make music, listen to music, swim, exercise, socialize, party, dance party, grow food, garden, design, draw, watch funny or educational shows/videos, adopt/pet animals, build houses, make soap, make water filters, do a job that you like, learn how to make things you want, help others, give to the poor, make world peace, religion, pray.
2. Get realistic heated sex robot doll
3. play sexual cartoon video games
4. turn gay (have free sex with male who isn't paid to have sex)
5. chop off ball and dick
6. kill yourself


I'd like to see a source for that cause the averange pornstar makes more money then most people do and aren't forced into it at all. They often do it for the publicity, money and fun.


Here's one: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Seeing as porn shoots normally do not take over 6 hours iirc, that's a whole lotta cash.

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Postby Flarbinia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:19 pm

Prostitution should be legalized because a relationship with a prostitute is better than most marriages for 3 reasons.
1. No commitment is required to make it work
2. It is cheaper than marriage
3. There are no dramatic breakups because the love goes away once they are paid

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Postby Freemopia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:20 pm

-The Trade Federation- wrote:
Freemopia wrote:Pictures and videos of sex is not the problem, can't harm anyone, and shouldn't be banned.
The problem is 99% of porn actress’s ether resort to it for lack of better options to make $, or are slaves. viewing porn sites that are free to view, pays advertisers that pay the site, that pays directors/pimps/rapists/kidnappers/slavers, that pay, coerce, or force/rape/drug/abuse "performers/actresses".
Don't ban pictures/videos of porn. Ban kidnapping, abuse/neglect, slavery, stealing from poor people and not letting them independently live off the land and not letting them get a good job(often a result from excessive government blocks, regulations and taxation) resulting them to become easy targets and desperate...

People who view pictures/videos of sex should be shamed, and socially excluded until they admit it was wrong and permanently stop.

Instead of viewing pictures/videos of sex:
1. do other fun things like eat delicious fruit/healthy food, dance, sing, make music, listen to music, swim, exercise, socialize, party, dance party, grow food, garden, design, draw, watch funny or educational shows/videos, adopt/pet animals, build houses, make soap, make water filters, do a job that you like, learn how to make things you want, help others, give to the poor, make world peace, religion, pray.
2. Get realistic heated sex robot doll
3. play sexual cartoon video games
4. turn gay (have free sex with male who isn't paid to have sex)
5. chop off ball and dick
6. kill yourself


I've watched a show on pornography and you would be surprised. Females usually are pornstars because they consider it a professional job while men are pornstars because of the same reason (or they just seek a bit of fun or extra cash).

Also, the producers aren't all evil -_-

Watching a show on it and knowing the truth arn't always the same thing.
Just because you might not see obvious force/coercion, doesn't mean it isn't happening, it's often happening behind the scenes.

Maybe I can't convience to care about others, now. You'll never convience me to pretend like it's not as bad as it is. I hope u will find better options of entertainment, like what I already listed.

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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:20 pm

Imperium of Tanith wrote:
The Seleucids wrote:
I'd like to see a source for that cause the averange pornstar makes more money then most people do and aren't forced into it at all. They often do it for the publicity, money and fun.


Here's one: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Seeing as porn shoots normally do not take over 6 hours iirc, that's a whole lotta cash.


Indeed, people should not think that they do it as a last resort or anything.

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Postby Fanosolia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:21 pm

The Rich Port wrote:
Scomagia wrote:That's arguably a result of prostitution being illegal, not necessarily a result of prostitution itself.


I'm inclined to agree, but America is annoying unwilling to try shit out, both to antiquated conservatives and misinformed liberals.

... The irony...


I agree there needs to be more trying shit out! This goes for all countries. You don't know until you try.
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Postby Vespalia » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:22 pm

Imperium of Tanith wrote:
The Seleucids wrote:
I'd like to see a source for that cause the averange pornstar makes more money then most people do and aren't forced into it at all. They often do it for the publicity, money and fun.


Here's one: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Seeing as porn shoots normally do not take over 6 hours iirc, that's a whole lotta cash.

Well, if that's true, I guess I will feel a little less shame about what I am about to do.
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Postby Spoder » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:23 pm

Vespalia wrote:
Imperium of Tanith wrote:
Here's one: http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-wh ... es-2012-11

Seeing as porn shoots normally do not take over 6 hours iirc, that's a whole lotta cash.

Well, if that's true, I guess I will feel a little less shame about what I am about to do.

Keep it to yourself pls.
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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:23 pm

Freemopia wrote:
-The Trade Federation- wrote:
I've watched a show on pornography and you would be surprised. Females usually are pornstars because they consider it a professional job while men are pornstars because of the same reason (or they just seek a bit of fun or extra cash).

Also, the producers aren't all evil -_-

Watching a show on it and knowing the truth arn't always the same thing.
Just because you might not see obvious force/coercion, doesn't mean it isn't happening, it's often happening behind the scenes.

Maybe I can't convience to care about others, now. You'll never convience me to pretend like it's not as bad as it is. I hope u will find better options of entertainment, like what I already listed.


"Knowing the truth"
Like said before, source? Ever talked to one of those woman?

Also, where do you see this "Obvious" force? please tell.
You now suddenly know what's going on behind the scenes?

At last, you claim its bad, this while you fail to see any of the good sides, any of the countries that actually properly legalized it. You make it worse then it actually is.
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Founded: Jul 15, 2013
Ex-Nation

Postby Spoder » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:24 pm

The Seleucids wrote:
Freemopia wrote:Watching a show on it and knowing the truth arn't always the same thing.
Just because you might not see obvious force/coercion, doesn't mean it isn't happening, it's often happening behind the scenes.

Maybe I can't convience to care about others, now. You'll never convience me to pretend like it's not as bad as it is. I hope u will find better options of entertainment, like what I already listed.


"Knowing the truth"
Like said before, source? Ever talked to one of those woman?

Also, where do you see this "Obvious" force? please tell.
You now suddenly know what's going on behind the scenes?

He's probably a producer who's made millions and wants to monopolize the business so he can make more.
Legalize gay weed
Time to get aesthetic.
I support insanely high tax rates, do you?

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