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Postby Digital Planets » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:13 pm

I don't understand why people continue to attempt to help the homeless. No point in helping them.
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Postby New Kvenland » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:21 pm

Digital Planets wrote:I don't understand why people continue to attempt to help the homeless. No point in helping them.


Erm... why not?
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Postby Benuty » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:23 pm

New Kvenland wrote:
Digital Planets wrote:I don't understand why people continue to attempt to help the homeless. No point in helping them.


Erm... why not?

Because the Great Chain clearly didn't approve of their efforts in life *nods*.
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Postby Dracoria » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:25 pm

Digital Planets wrote:I don't understand why people continue to attempt to help the homeless. No point in helping them.


Because helping the less fortunate makes them feel good, especially if their religion says one should do so?
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Postby Digital Planets » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:48 pm

Dracoria wrote:
Digital Planets wrote:I don't understand why people continue to attempt to help the homeless. No point in helping them.


Because helping the less fortunate makes them feel good, especially if their religion says one should do so?


Shit, that makes it even worse.
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Postby Shaggai » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:50 pm

Digital Planets wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
Because helping the less fortunate makes them feel good, especially if their religion says one should do so?


Shit, that makes it even worse.

Helping people makes people happy, therefore it's bad? Are you some sort of negative utilitarian?
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:53 pm

Shaggai wrote:
Digital Planets wrote:
Shit, that makes it even worse.

Helping people makes people happy, therefore it's bad? Are you some sort of negative utilitarian?

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:11 pm

Digital Planets wrote:I don't understand why people continue to attempt to help the homeless. No point in helping them.


Because some of them actually can be rehabilitated and go on to do worthwhile stuff, and because helping them is often cheaper than cleaning up the mess if they commit crimes out of desperation.
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Postby Espresso and Insanity » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:17 pm

Digital Planets wrote:I don't understand why people continue to attempt to help the homeless. No point in helping them.


For one, it's the morally right thing to do. These people are victims, and it's society's role to help them out.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:01 pm

Espresso and Insanity wrote:
Digital Planets wrote:I don't understand why people continue to attempt to help the homeless. No point in helping them.


For one, it's the morally right thing to do. These people are victims, and it's society's role to help them out.


That varies. I have met people who were homeless by choice and just taking advantage of people's generosity. They are the minority, but they do exist.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:27 pm

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Espresso and Insanity wrote:
For one, it's the morally right thing to do. These people are victims, and it's society's role to help them out.


That varies. I have met people who were homeless by choice and just taking advantage of people's generosity. They are the minority, but they do exist.


We have one here. He has a horse and a wagon and camps out the front of the local courthouse. He owes the city council $20,000 in fines for livestock in the city center and parking fines. He also likes to verbally abuse passers by.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Nov 08, 2014 4:49 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
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That varies. I have met people who were homeless by choice and just taking advantage of people's generosity. They are the minority, but they do exist.


We have one here. He has a horse and a wagon and camps out the front of the local courthouse. He owes the city council $20,000 in fines for livestock in the city center and parking fines. He also likes to verbally abuse passers by.


The ones I met just parked their asses on the sidewalk and asked passersby for money. If people walked past without giving them money, they'd start saying nasty things about them, like they thought people owed it to them to give them money. Totally ungrateful. And then they spouted this bullshit about how if you're a good person, "the universe" will provide for you. If someone else gives you money, that's not "the universe" providing for you, and it's not because you're a good person. It's another person doing you a favor because they're a good person. Those guys just really rubbed me the wrong way.
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Postby Ermarian » Sat Nov 08, 2014 5:27 am

So to recap Florida laws:

  • Shooting black kids: Okay
  • Feeding hungry people: Not Okay
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Sat Nov 08, 2014 6:17 am

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Cyrisnia wrote:Whats wrong with feeding the homeless?

It encourages those no-good moochers who should just go get a job already to hang around and bring their icky homeless germs into the public space where the hardworking elite have to see them, and heaven forbid, maybe feel uncomfortable seeing those welfare queens actually getting to eat real food!

Really, it sounds to me like the law is an attempt at making the area so inhospitable that the homeless population migrates elsewhere. Instead of, oh, say, taking steps to help get the homeless off the streets? Y'know, housing, job development, that sort of thing?

This reminds me of that South Park episode that made fun of Dawn of the Dead and had this issue as its message.

The Homeless are treated as the undead and people just want them gone, gone to any location.

Instead of actually doing shit.

Such lazy assholes in the world, and they have the gall to call the Homeless lazy.

Sure, maybe some got there themselves, but even then don't they deserve a chance to get back on their feet and get rehabilitation.
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Postby Dracoria » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:47 pm

Ermarian wrote:So to recap Florida laws:

  • Shooting black kids: Okay
  • Feeding hungry people: Not Okay


This is one city, not the whole state.
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Postby SaintB » Sun Nov 09, 2014 7:55 am

Its another symptom that is the social disease of people being too lazy or selfish to actually deal with the homeless problem so instead they try to criminalize poverty, they just took the next logical step and started criminalizing helping them in hopes that like stray cats they'll all just go away. Its pathetic.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:12 am

SaintB wrote:Its another symptom that is the social disease of people being too lazy or selfish to actually deal with the homeless problem so instead they try to criminalize poverty, they just took the next logical step and started criminalizing helping them in hopes that like stray cats they'll all just go away. Its pathetic.


They well as might abolish Good Samaritan laws while they're at it. Then we can have shitloads of incidents where people stood or walked by as someone was being raped or killed.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Nov 09, 2014 2:48 pm

Gauthier wrote:
SaintB wrote:Its another symptom that is the social disease of people being too lazy or selfish to actually deal with the homeless problem so instead they try to criminalize poverty, they just took the next logical step and started criminalizing helping them in hopes that like stray cats they'll all just go away. Its pathetic.


They well as might abolish Good Samaritan laws while they're at it. Then we can have shitloads of incidents where people stood or walked by as someone was being raped or killed.


Well, how else are we supposed to stop people being raped or killed? Allowing people to interfere only encourages the problem.

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