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The Floating Island of the Sleeping God
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Postby The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:42 pm

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Galloism wrote:Except your idea would likely cost more and be less humane.


no it would be more profitable for the state, it would cut costs on labor and be productive

it would save alot of the taxpayers money

Except we've explained A:no it wouldn't and B:so fucking what, money is less important than human life.
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Postby Apparatchikstan » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:50 pm

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Galloism wrote:It's people.

What shall we do of people who are of no benefit to society ?

George Bernard Shaw had the answer to that question, and American Progressives pursued the dark art of Eugenics to attempt to selective prune an ideal citizenry. This would later inspire a quirky German fellow who was obsessed with final solutions.
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Postby Dracoria » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:12 pm

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Galloism wrote:Except your idea would likely cost more and be less humane.


no it would be more profitable for the state, it would cut costs on labor and be productive

it would save alot of the taxpayers money


I've got an idea, how about the state letting people and organizations, like let's say churches, do their part to help with the poor and the disabled? That way the state doesn't have to get involved at all, and we save money all around!
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Postby Manisdog » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:13 pm

Dracoria wrote:
Manisdog wrote:
no it would be more profitable for the state, it would cut costs on labor and be productive

it would save alot of the taxpayers money


I've got an idea, how about the state letting people and organizations, like let's say churches, do their part to help with the poor and the disabled? That way the state doesn't have to get involved at all, and we save money all around!

it sets a bad precendent, as then the homeless do not work and loiter around

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Postby Galloism » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:37 pm

I, for one, look forward to having all our physically and mentally disabled people laying asphalt on the road crew.

Better loosen up the suspension.
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Postby Yma Sumac » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:40 pm

When you feed the homeless, you make them lazier, because you allow them to survive without finding a job.
Another problem with feeding them is that you sustain them. If they simply died, there would be less homeless people.

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Postby Dracoria » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:44 pm

Manisdog wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
I've got an idea, how about the state letting people and organizations, like let's say churches, do their part to help with the poor and the disabled? That way the state doesn't have to get involved at all, and we save money all around!

it sets a bad precendent, as then the homeless do not work and loiter around


They're loitering around and not working anyway. At least this way they'll have a sandwich while doing so and may not bother you for one.
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Postby Manisdog » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:05 pm

Dracoria wrote:
Manisdog wrote:it sets a bad precendent, as then the homeless do not work and loiter around


They're loitering around and not working anyway. At least this way they'll have a sandwich while doing so and may not bother you for one.

No they would still bother you as to earn more money

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Postby Dracoria » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:07 pm

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Dracoria wrote:
They're loitering around and not working anyway. At least this way they'll have a sandwich while doing so and may not bother you for one.

No they would still bother you as to earn more money


Why not? You're bothering them to earn more.
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Postby Manisdog » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:07 pm

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Manisdog wrote:No they would still bother you as to earn more money


Why not? You're bothering them to earn more.

i mean they would still beg

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Postby Dracoria » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:09 pm

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Why not? You're bothering them to earn more.

i mean they would still beg


It's harder to beg with a sandwich in your mouth.
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Postby The Floating Island of the Sleeping God » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:09 pm

Manisdog wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
Why not? You're bothering them to earn more.

i mean they would still beg

They wouldn't be able to beg with their mouths full of food instead of what they're usually filled with (which is a gaping chasm of human despair).
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Postby Zeinbrad » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:11 pm

Yma Sumac wrote:When you feed the homeless, you make them lazier, because you allow them to survive without finding a job.
Another problem with feeding them is that you sustain them. If they simply died, there would be less homeless people.

Which is totally more effective than helping them.

I mean, they are homeless by choice right?
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:32 pm

Manisdog wrote:
Dracoria wrote:
I've got an idea, how about the state letting people and organizations, like let's say churches, do their part to help with the poor and the disabled? That way the state doesn't have to get involved at all, and we save money all around!

it sets a bad precendent, as then the homeless do not work and loiter around

You're going to ban helping people?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:40 am

Galloism wrote:I, for one, look forward to having all our physically and mentally disabled people laying asphalt on the road crew.

Better loosen up the suspension.

Tbf, where I live, it would be an improvement.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:45 am

Yma Sumac wrote:When you feed the homeless, you make them lazier, because you allow them to survive without finding a job.
Another problem with feeding them is that you sustain them. If they simply died, there would be less homeless people.

What should be obvious, is that not every homeless person is capable of work.

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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:28 am

Galloism wrote:I, for one, look forward to having all our physically and mentally disabled people laying asphalt on the road crew.

Better loosen up the suspension.

I was thinking salt mines.
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Postby Scomagia » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:33 am

Manisdog wrote:
Galloism wrote:It's people.

What shall we do of people who are of no benefit to society ?

Who says anyone needs to be of benefit to society? You seem to subscribe to the notion that the individual exists for the benefit of the society, rather than the reverse. That's dangerous thinking and is the stuff that most abusive states are made of.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:07 pm

Scomagia wrote:
Manisdog wrote:What shall we do of people who are of no benefit to society ?

Who says anyone needs to be of benefit to society? You seem to subscribe to the notion that the individual exists for the benefit of the society, rather than the reverse. That's dangerous thinking and is the stuff that most abusive states are made of.


Considering their view on women and the workplace this is hardly a surprise. I think just once this person should actually experience what it is to be homeless with no support.
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Postby New East Norfolk » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:12 pm

Maybe if we brought back workhouses, and let people sell themselves into slavery combined with free land settler colonialism we would not have this problem anymore.
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Postby Nortrom » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:16 pm

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Postby Hurdegaryp » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:41 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Espresso and Insanity wrote:Why the fuck is this law in place?

Their argument is that the homeless will gather if fed. It's like, "Don't feed the ducks" for humans.

If there happen to be too many ducks, the surplus usually gets caught and gassed or shot. Given the predilection of Americans to solve everything with guns, I guess it's a bit of a miracle that there hasn't been an organized mass murder inflicted upon the homeless yet.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Fri Nov 07, 2014 2:56 pm

New East Norfolk wrote:Maybe if we brought back workhouses, and let people sell themselves into slavery combined with free land settler colonialism we would not have this problem anymore.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:13 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Yma Sumac wrote:When you feed the homeless, you make them lazier, because you allow them to survive without finding a job.
Another problem with feeding them is that you sustain them. If they simply died, there would be less homeless people.

What should be obvious, is that not every homeless person is capable of work.


^This.

A lot of them need medical care (especially mental health, but sometimes physical issues too) before they can be productive in the workforce.

Some of them are also just too old or too far gone and never going to be very productive.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:40 pm

Florida. Where you can pick a fight with someone then shoot them claiming self defense, but feeding a homeless person puts you in jail.
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