Another Person Charged With Feeding The Poor In Florida

[Manisdog]

Well mentally ill people, i am talking about

Quite a few, yes.

I'd even argue most.

ok if they cannot hold a freaking job, how on earth would they take care of themselves, how would they survive ?

[Fanosolia]

wait are you saying they are not fit enough to do a job but can take care of themselves ?

I think they're saying that arts and crafts aren't a good example (though I somewhat with that.) What about things like trade? carpentry, or electrician? Or even things like programming or other such mental tasks? I'm assuming this is mostly for the disabled though. plus I think they mean globally.

[Ethel mermania]

tbf, job training is often part of programs to help the homeless.

True, but pottery?

Really? Pottery?

i dont think we are dealing with an adult for whom english is a first language

[Galloism]

Quite a few, yes.

I'd even argue most.

ok if they cannot hold a freaking job, how on earth would they take care of themselves, how would they survive ?

Oh I know someone who can't handle strange people - ever. Like that person becomes nearly completely unable to function if that person is around strangers, and can only do so with great and massive difficulty if someone that person loves and trusts is nearby. This person also struggles with strange places.

That precludes pretty much any job, but doesn't prevent that person from cooking, cleaning, and bathing in their own home.

[Manisdog]

wait are you saying they are not fit enough to do a job but can take care of themselves ?

I think they're saying that arts and crafts aren't a good example (though I somewhat with that.) What about things like trade? carpentry, or electrician? Or even things like programming or other such mental tasks? I'm assuming this is mostly for the disabled though.

It could be done, In India pottery is not a bad business, I have around 80-90 pots for plants and around 6 pots for storing water, but i see no reason, why not

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

Quite a few, yes.

I'd even argue most.

ok if they cannot hold a freaking job, how on earth would they take care of themselves, how would they survive ?

Job: follow orders, exist in a social situation, conform to strict guidelines.
Take care of yourself: eat, sleep in a safe place, drink water.

Which one of those do you think, say, an autistic person would be able to handle on a day-to-day basis?

[Sediczja]

Quite a few people fit that definition, yes.

Most disabled people, in fact.

Well mentally ill people, i am talking about

ok if they cannot hold a freaking job, how on earth would they take care of themselves, how would they survive ?

There's a man that lives opposite my house who suffers from schizophrenia. He doesn't work, and he does completely fine on his own with the occasional checkup. Many, if not most, mentally ill people are completely capable of taking care of themselves on a day to day basis, even if they can't work as a result of their condition.

[Galloism]

I think they're saying that arts and crafts aren't a good example (though I somewhat with that.) What about things like trade? carpentry, or electrician? Or even things like programming or other such mental tasks? I'm assuming this is mostly for the disabled though.

It could be done, In India pottery is not a bad business, I have around 80-90 pots for plants and around 6 pots for storing water, but i see no reason, why not

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Most pots are made by machines in a factory now.

[Manisdog]

ok if they cannot hold a freaking job, how on earth would they take care of themselves, how would they survive ?

Oh I know someone who can't handle strange people - ever. Like that person becomes nearly completely unable to function if that person is around strangers, and can only do so with great and massive difficulty if someone that person loves and trusts is nearby. This person also struggles with strange places.

That precludes pretty much any job, but doesn't prevent that person from cooking, cleaning, and bathing in their own home.

I think of socially awkward accountants

[Manisdog]

It could be done, In India pottery is not a bad business, I have around 80-90 pots for plants and around 6 pots for storing water, but i see no reason, why not

...

Most pots are made by machines in a factory now.

No they are made right in front of me, i have to place an order from a local artisan and he gives it in a week or two

[Scomagia]

Quite a few, yes.

I'd even argue most.

ok if they cannot hold a freaking job, how on earth would they take care of themselves, how would they survive ?

I have difficulty leaving my house. I am reduced to panic at seemingly simple things. Despite those factors, I am perfectly capable of bathing, eating, and keeping my home clean.

[Galloism]

Oh I know someone who can't handle strange people - ever. Like that person becomes nearly completely unable to function if that person is around strangers, and can only do so with great and massive difficulty if someone that person loves and trusts is nearby. This person also struggles with strange places.

That precludes pretty much any job, but doesn't prevent that person from cooking, cleaning, and bathing in their own home.

I think of socially awkward accountants

As a socially awkward accountant, I have/have had to deal with clients on a daily basis, make phone calls to the IRS (phone calls with strangers are impossible some days too), attend continuing education in a classroom setting with strangers, do interviews on the radio for modern tax topics, meet with revenue agents, testify in tax court, and a number of other interpersonal tasks.

[Manisdog]

what good are they to society if they don't work ?

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

Oh I know someone who can't handle strange people - ever. Like that person becomes nearly completely unable to function if that person is around strangers, and can only do so with great and massive difficulty if someone that person loves and trusts is nearby. This person also struggles with strange places.

That precludes pretty much any job, but doesn't prevent that person from cooking, cleaning, and bathing in their own home.

I think of socially awkward accountants

Congratulations on insulting everyone with clinical social anxiety (and everyone else with a mental illness, really) by conflating social ineptness with a medical condition.

[Galloism]

what good are they to society if they don't work ?

What good is society to them if it doesn't take care of its most vulnerable?

[Sediczja]

what good are they to society if they don't work ?

So if they *can't* work, what the fuck should we do? Process them into Soylent Green and feed the rich?

[Fanosolia]

I think they're saying that arts and crafts aren't a good example (though I somewhat with that.) What about things like trade? carpentry, or electrician? Or even things like programming or other such mental tasks? I'm assuming this is mostly for the disabled though.

It could be done, In India pottery is not a bad business, I have around 80-90 pots for plants and around 6 pots for storing water, but i see no reason, why not

yes I realized that after i remembered where you're from. I do apologize for that. it's mostly a difference in culture and economics from where we are from. Of course, it's not impossible to be a good potter here, but think here it would be more for art than just plants.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

what good are they to society if they don't work ?

Now that's some social Darwinist shit right there.

[Galloism]

what good are they to society if they don't work ?

So if they *can't* work, what the fuck should we do? Process them into Soylent Green and feed the rich?

It's people.

[Zeinbrad]

ok if they cannot hold a freaking job, how on earth would they take care of themselves, how would they survive ?

I have difficulty leaving my house. I am reduced to panic at seemingly simple things. Despite those factors, I am perfectly capable of bathing, eating, and keeping my home clean.

I have a severly autistic cousin. That according to my mom is getting worse.

He still does things that other do.

[Galloism]

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Most pots are made by machines in a factory now.

No they are made right in front of me, i have to place an order from a local artisan and he gives it in a week or two

That's really cool, actually.

I'd love a hand made pot.

[Manisdog]

I think of socially awkward accountants

As a socially awkward accountant, I have/have had to deal with clients on a daily basis, make phone calls to the IRS (phone calls with strangers are impossible some days too), attend continuing education in a classroom setting with strangers, do interviews on the radio for modern tax topics, meet with revenue agents, testify in tax court, and a number of other interpersonal tasks.

I mean no offense, I just found all accounts very socially awkward, anyways there are jobs which just don't require client interaction

[Galloism]

As a socially awkward accountant, I have/have had to deal with clients on a daily basis, make phone calls to the IRS (phone calls with strangers are impossible some days too), attend continuing education in a classroom setting with strangers, do interviews on the radio for modern tax topics, meet with revenue agents, testify in tax court, and a number of other interpersonal tasks.

I mean no offense, I just found all accounts very socially awkward, anyways there are jobs which just don't require client interaction

Perhaps, but those require coworker interaction, which is just as impossible.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

As a socially awkward accountant, I have/have had to deal with clients on a daily basis, make phone calls to the IRS (phone calls with strangers are impossible some days too), attend continuing education in a classroom setting with strangers, do interviews on the radio for modern tax topics, meet with revenue agents, testify in tax court, and a number of other interpersonal tasks.

I mean no offense, I just found all accounts very socially awkward, anyways there are jobs which just don't require client interaction

Name a job where you only ever have to speak with someone who you know and trust at any time. Name one.

[Ethel mermania]

what good are they to society if they don't work ?

So if they *can't* work, what the fuck should we do? Process them into Soylent Green and feed the rich?

can we feed them to the poor? i would rather eat cow.