Another Person Charged With Feeding The Poor In Florida

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

It would be a whole lot cheaper, if you make them work and give them a bed and two meals

Make them work doing what?

Seriously, that's the question. What are you going to have them do? Many have physical and/or mental disabilities. What are you going to do to make them work that actually saves the state money instead of costing them more?

Servants for the upperclassmen, of course!

[Manisdog]

It would be a whole lot cheaper, if you make them work and give them a bed and two meals

Slavery generally is cheap, yes.

do you want them to die than, or want them to be homeless forever, when they are fit enough or have saved enough to rent an apartment or find another job they can be let out, its not a jail

[Galloism]

Make them work doing what?

Seriously, that's the question. What are you going to have them do? Many have physical and/or mental disabilities. What are you going to do to make them work that actually saves the state money instead of costing them more?

Servants for the upperclassmen, of course!

Well I could use a butler.

I hope he doesn't talk to himself too much and creep out my guests.

[Manisdog]

Make them work doing what?

Seriously, that's the question. What are you going to have them do? Many have physical and/or mental disabilities. What are you going to do to make them work that actually saves the state money instead of costing them more?

Servants for the upperclassmen, of course![/quote

As I have said before people with mental and physical diasblities have a place, where you can keep them

[Galloism]

As I have said before people with mental and physical diasblities have a place, where you can keep them

That's more expensive than just giving them homes.

Most can pretty well take care of themselves - they just can't hold down jobs.

[Sediczja]

Servants for the upperclassmen, of course![/quote

As I have said before people with mental and physical diasblities have a place, where you can keep them

In your case, the garden shed?

[Manisdog]

As I have said before people with mental and physical diasblities have a place, where you can keep them

That's more expensive than just giving them homes.

Most can pretty well take care of themselves - they just can't hold down jobs.

what is cheaper


giving one house to one person or giving a dormitory to 100 people


not to mention, they could be schooled in some kind of vocation like pottery or anything basically

[Scomagia]

Slavery generally is cheap, yes.

do you want them to die than, or want them to be homeless forever, when they are fit enough or have saved enough to rent an apartment or find another job they can be let out, its not a jail

Assuming that they ever make enough or that they aren't worked to death.

[Galloism]

That's more expensive than just giving them homes.

Most can pretty well take care of themselves - they just can't hold down jobs.

what is cheaper


giving one house to one person or giving a dormitory to 100 people

Usually giving small apartments to each person (or couple). They are lockable, provide private space for things, and reduce incidence of crimes like theft, assault, things like that.

Keeping people out of the justice system saves a hell of a lot of money.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

That's more expensive than just giving them homes.

Most can pretty well take care of themselves - they just can't hold down jobs.

what is cheaper


giving one house to one person or giving a dormitory to 100 people

And it comes back around to human rights. You can't force potentially mentally unbalanced (and certainly at least a bit disenfranchised) people into a cramped space and make them work for two meals a day. It's literally inhumane.

[Scomagia]

what is cheaper


giving one house to one person or giving a dormitory to 100 people

Usually giving small apartments to each person (or couple). They are lockable, provide private space for things, and reduce incidence of crimes like theft, assault, things like that.

Keeping people out of the justice system saves a hell of a lot of money.

You also forgot the lower incidence rates of illness from not cramming people into one space together.

[Ethel mermania]

That's more expensive than just giving them homes.

Most can pretty well take care of themselves - they just can't hold down jobs.

what is cheaper


giving one house to one person or giving a dormitory to 100 people


not to mention, they could be schooled in some kind of vocation like pottery or anything basically

they are not houses, they are homes, an apartment is a home. i think in utah social services are part of the deal.

[Galloism]

Usually giving small apartments to each person (or couple). They are lockable, provide private space for things, and reduce incidence of crimes like theft, assault, things like that.

Keeping people out of the justice system saves a hell of a lot of money.

You also forgot the lower incidence rates of illness from not cramming people into one space together.

There's that too.

Not to mention, people having a small kitchenette so they can cook their own food saves the state a hell of a lot of money compared to having to hire staff to deliver, cook, and serve food twice a day.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

That's more expensive than just giving them homes.

Most can pretty well take care of themselves - they just can't hold down jobs.

not to mention, they could be schooled in some kind of vocation like pottery or anything basically

Oh, pottery! Arts and crafts! I bet an amateur potter could totally make a living off of that! Ad hey, there's a huge market for glitter art, isn't there?

[Galloism]

not to mention, they could be schooled in some kind of vocation like pottery or anything basically

Oh, pottery! Arts and crafts! I bet an amateur potter could totally make a living off of that! Ad hey, there's a huge market for glitter art, isn't there?

Maybe we could teach them to shoe horses next.

[Sediczja]

not to mention, they could be schooled in some kind of vocation like pottery or anything basically

Oh, pottery! Arts and crafts! I bet an amateur potter could totally make a living off of that! Ad hey, there's a huge market for glitter art, isn't there?

I hear the macaroni-and-glue art market is booming.

[Manisdog]

wait are you saying they are not fit enough to do a job but can take care of themselves ?


found the flaw in your argument...

[Galloism]

wait are you saying they are not fit enough to do a job but can take care of themselves ?

Quite a few people fit that definition, yes.

Most disabled people, in fact.

[Ethel mermania]

Oh, pottery! Arts and crafts! I bet an amateur potter could totally make a living off of that! Ad hey, there's a huge market for glitter art, isn't there?

Maybe we could teach them to shoe horses next.

tbf, job training is often part of programs to help the homeless.

[The Floating Island of the Sleeping God]

wait are you saying they are not fit enough to do a job but can take care of themselves ?

We're saying there aren't any humane jobs for them to do, Sherlock, or they would've taken those already.

[Scomagia]

wait are you saying they are not fit enough to do a job but can take care of themselves ?

I'm not fit enough to work and yet I can take care of myself. I'm surely not alone in this regard.

[Galloism]

Maybe we could teach them to shoe horses next.

tbf, job training is often part of programs to help the homeless.

True, but pottery?

Really? Pottery?

[Manisdog]

wait are you saying they are not fit enough to do a job but can take care of themselves ?

Quite a few people fit that definition, yes.

Most disabled people, in fact.

Well mentally ill people, i am talking about

[Galloism]

Quite a few people fit that definition, yes.

Most disabled people, in fact.

Well mentally ill people, i am talking about

Quite a few, yes.

I'd even argue most.

[Zeinbrad]

what is cheaper


giving one house to one person or giving a dormitory to 100 people

And it comes back around to human rights. You can't force potentially mentally unbalanced (and certainly at least a bit disenfranchised) people into a cramped space and make them work for two meals a day. It's literally inhumane.

Social Dwarism man.