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by Burleson » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:29 pm
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by Tule » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:29 pm
by Chernoslavia » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:30 pm
by Spoder » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:30 pm
by Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:31 pm
T Roosevelt wrote:1. Plenty of people can be taught how to use a gun.
2. I don't care what everyone wants.
3. Pistols are traditionally American, the men who lived out West used them all the time and disputes were settled with dueling. President of the United States Andrew Jackson won duels, dueling is American as a salute.
by Davinhia » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:32 pm
by New Aerios » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:33 pm
Seno Zhou Varada wrote:WestRedMaple wrote:
You are mistaken. A wound meant to cause them to bleed out (which is what you claimed was the intent) leaves them adequate time to harm or kill you.
You are confused about the purpose of self-defense, even though I just pointed it out.
Once in actual physical contact, certainly a knife is a very valid choice. At any range beyond that, a firearm is more effective.
Have you had 5 years of training with this? I have and the blood will gush causing them to die in seconds and to max minutes. Oh crap the internet tone I just made... though if I was at a couple feet range my preferable weapon would be a bo-staff as I'm also trained in it better than a knife. And I see the use for a gun but that's preferable 5 feet and further in my opinion and knowledge.
"No matter how worthy the cause, it is robbery, theft, and injustice to confiscate the property of one person and give it to another to whom it does not belong"------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man."
by Seno Zhou Varada » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:33 pm
Kernen wrote:Seno Zhou Varada wrote:I do understand your point of view as a firearm does sound less stressful but in these sort of situations with my training a knife would be the most useful as I know how to use it and disarm one effectively.
And that's great. You should use what works for you. Just be mindful that what works for you won't work for the general population because they lack the same skills. I'm pretty handy at defending myself with 3 feet of rope, but I'd never suggest paracord replace guns
Spoder wrote:Seno Zhou Varada wrote:I do understand your point of view as a firearm does sound less stressful but in these sort of situations with my training a knife would be the most useful as I know how to use it and disarm one effectively.
Not true at all.
A gun will be faster and more deadly. The user's strength has little to no effect on the effectiveness of the firearm (recoil control is still a factor), and it is much easier to successively attack. A gun is also easier to use than a knife.
by Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:33 pm
Chernoslavia wrote:1. Why yourself included?
by Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:33 pm
Tule wrote:Fixed that for you. You are really coming off as a sexist yourself the way you choose your words.
By including the words I crossed out you are giving the impression that me having a Y chromosome is something I should be ashamed of. Fuck that.
by Chernoslavia » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:34 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:T Roosevelt wrote:1. Plenty of people can be taught how to use a gun.
Plenty. Not all.2. I don't care what everyone wants.
Very unAmerican.3. Pistols are traditionally American, the men who lived out West used them all the time and disputes were settled with dueling. President of the United States Andrew Jackson won duels, dueling is American as a salute.
Let's not look to men like Andrew 'Genocide' Jackson as role models. We lost one of our best to duels, and the notion of honor is rather unAmerican. It's the long gun which defines us - we are hunters, soldiers, woodsmen. Not thugs and cowboys.
by Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:34 pm
Davinhia wrote:Keep them out of the hands of Radical Feminists, and I'm fine.
by Chernoslavia » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:35 pm
by Seno Zhou Varada » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:35 pm
New Aerios wrote:Seno Zhou Varada wrote:Have you had 5 years of training with this? I have and the blood will gush causing them to die in seconds and to max minutes. Oh crap the internet tone I just made... though if I was at a couple feet range my preferable weapon would be a bo-staff as I'm also trained in it better than a knife. And I see the use for a gun but that's preferable 5 feet and further in my opinion and knowledge.
by Lingang » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:35 pm
New Aerios wrote:Seno Zhou Varada wrote:Have you had 5 years of training with this? I have and the blood will gush causing them to die in seconds and to max minutes. Oh crap the internet tone I just made... though if I was at a couple feet range my preferable weapon would be a bo-staff as I'm also trained in it better than a knife. And I see the use for a gun but that's preferable 5 feet and further in my opinion and knowledge.
by Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:36 pm
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Regarding men as a class of oppressors has nothing to do with biological essentialism. It's patriarchy that commits biological essentialism by designating gender identity, expression and roles to people based on their genital shape in the first place.
by Sanctissima » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:37 pm
by Augarundus » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:37 pm
by Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:37 pm
Chernoslavia wrote:3. Mind you that a Colt 1873 Artillery revolver was used at the OK Corral shooting by Wyatt Earp, to rid the streets of thugs and cowboys with red sashes.
by Spoder » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:38 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Regarding men as a class of oppressors has nothing to do with biological essentialism. It's patriarchy that commits biological essentialism by designating gender identity, expression and roles to people based on their genital shape in the first place.
Regarding men as a class of oppressors ignores in a very real sense the fact that patriarchy is perpetuated by men and women. It may primarily benefit men, but men are not, as a class, responsible for patriarchy. Women suffer disproportionately, but women are also the oppressors. Men suffer somewhat less, but men are also the oppressed.
This class of oppressors bullshit does nothing but blow hot air.
by Tule » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:38 pm
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Tule wrote:Fixed that for you. You are really coming off as a sexist yourself the way you choose your words.
By including the words I crossed out you are giving the impression that me having a Y chromosome is something I should be ashamed of. Fuck that.
Regarding men as a class of oppressors has nothing to do with biological essentialism. It's patriarchy that commits biological essentialism by designating gender identity, expression and roles to people based on their genital shape in the first place.
by Conserative Morality » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:38 pm
Chernoslavia wrote:Oh. Well I respect your honesty
by Spoder » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:39 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Chernoslavia wrote:3. Mind you that a Colt 1873 Artillery revolver was used at the OK Corral shooting by Wyatt Earp, to rid the streets of thugs and cowboys with red sashes.
Yeah, but Wyatt was a deputy - nearly a cop.
I'm not saying that pistols don't have a place in society. I'm just saying that the long gun is what defines us.
by Chernoslavia » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:40 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Chernoslavia wrote:3. Mind you that a Colt 1873 Artillery revolver was used at the OK Corral shooting by Wyatt Earp, to rid the streets of thugs and cowboys with red sashes.
Yeah, but Wyatt was a deputy - nearly a cop.
I'm not saying that pistols don't have a place in society. I'm just saying that the long gun is what defines us.
by T Roosevelt » Tue Nov 04, 2014 1:40 pm
Sanctissima wrote:So... basically, you're saying that:
Man: "Hey"
Woman: "Rapist!" *gun shots*
I really don't think you've thought this through.
Son, I don't think you've read this through.T Roosevelt wrote: I'm concerned with setting the precedent of a woman shooting some man over something not so bad like a greeting. I think men also should tip their hats or nod downward if they're going to compliment a woman.
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