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Postby Chucky Arla » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:11 am

Ifreann wrote:Well I'd hardly put it past you to also assault the boy. But then I'm sure that's the point.


Assault a child? No, not at all. I'm not quite British military standard.

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Postby New Connorstantinople » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:12 am

Ifreann wrote:
New Connorstantinople wrote:Perhaps he wasn't. I said this may be the case earlier, multiple times in fact, but i committed the great sin of suggesting it MIGHT, and must not be left unpunished.

It might have been a million things, and you've only been talking about how it might be a Jihadist attack. But we're the problem for calling that racist and bigoted. Yeah. Sure.


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Snatch them off the fucker, add fire, toast marshmallow.

Might have mentioned that.

Although I can only assume that you will now apply some ludicrously open interpretation of assault to fit your view.

Well I'd hardly put it past you to also assault the boy. But then I'm sure that's the point.

In sorry friend, but it looks like you insult me only because i suggest what has already been a past occurrence. If so, i will proceed no further.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:12 am

New Connorstantinople wrote:Iffy, it looks as though we are suggesting the same thing. I say that this may be islamicly motivated, you say it may not. I agree that it may not, and i hope you could understand how it may also be as well.

No, you're suggesting that the perpetrator was a Muslim terrorist and trying not to look too racist while you do. I'm suggesting we don't know what motivated the attack.
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Postby The Cobalt Sky » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:12 am

New Connorstantinople wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I hear that's where they plan their terrorism and steal our women.



Obviously someone who sets a kid's face on fire for Islam doesn't actually care about Islam. Duh. :roll:

>man gets drunk
>in his drunkenness he becomes rowdy, and more prone towards violence
>remembers he lives in a western nations, and that these pork eaters wage war on jihadists.
>attacks boy in military garb

But guys, the bible says not to murder and the KKK does just that


Id also like to say that this isn't me saying this has to be the cade, only that it might .


Matthew 10:34: “Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword.”
And if violence was so bad, what of the warrior Joshua? What of David, who slew Goliath? What of the rapture?

EDIT: My point is, the Bible isn't against killing enemies. The ten commandments say you shall not murder, as in cold blood.
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Postby Second Russian Federation » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:13 am

Coia wrote:Good thing they burned a drug seller

See, my theory is already being corroborated. :p
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Postby New Connorstantinople » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:14 am

Ifreann wrote:
New Connorstantinople wrote:Iffy, it looks as though we are suggesting the same thing. I say that this may be islamicly motivated, you say it may not. I agree that it may not, and i hope you could understand how it may also be as well.

No, you're suggesting that the perpetrator was a Muslim terrorist and trying not to look too racist while you do. I'm suggesting we don't know what motivated the attack.

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Postby Twilight Imperium » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:14 am

New Connorstantinople wrote:In sorry friend, but it looks like you insult me only because i suggest what has already been a past occurrence. If so, i will proceed no further.


We're insulting you because your suggestion is retarded, and instead of admitting it and backing down, you're doubling down. There's as much evidence that this was committed by some random chav as anything else - i.e. "none"

Edit for clarification: If you hear "attack" and think "Muslims", that's racist. And really stupid too.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:14 am

Chucky Arla wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well I'd hardly put it past you to also assault the boy. But then I'm sure that's the point.


Assault a child? No, not at all. I'm not quite British military standard.

Adorable.


New Connorstantinople wrote:
Ifreann wrote:It might have been a million things, and you've only been talking about how it might be a Jihadist attack. But we're the problem for calling that racist and bigoted. Yeah. Sure.



Might have mentioned that.


Well I'd hardly put it past you to also assault the boy. But then I'm sure that's the point.

In sorry friend, but it looks like you insult me only because i suggest what has already been a past occurrence. If so, i will proceed no further.

Somehow I doubt that.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:16 am

New Connorstantinople wrote:
Ifreann wrote:No, you're suggesting that the perpetrator was a Muslim terrorist and trying not to look too racist while you do. I'm suggesting we don't know what motivated the attack.

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Hey look, you're still here. Shocking.
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Postby New Connorstantinople » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:16 am

The circle jerk is upon us. I admit that it is impossible for the attack to be islamicly motivated a nation where islamicly motivated attacks are barely uncommon.

Have a nice day.
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Postby New Connorstantinople » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:17 am

Ifreann wrote:
New Connorstantinople wrote:SUGGESTING
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I also agree that WE DONT KNOW.

Hey look, you're still here. Shocking.

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Postby Twilight Imperium » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:17 am

By the way, I do hope they catch the fucker and put him away, no matter who he was. Lighting a kid on fire? Christ.

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Postby Twilight Imperium » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:19 am

New Connorstantinople wrote:The circle jerk is upon us. I admit that it is impossible for the attack to be islamicly motivated a nation where islamicly motivated attacks are barely uncommon.

Have a nice day.


Are you kidding me? Nobody's saying it's impossible, just that it's retarded to pick out any specific motivation when the only description we have is "hoodie, might have been a dude, owns a spray can".

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Postby Ifreann » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:19 am

New Connorstantinople wrote:The circle jerk is upon us. I admit that it is impossible for the attack to be islamicly motivated a nation where islamicly motivated attacks are barely uncommon.

Have a nice day.

That's two. Gonna hang around and tell us a third time that you're leaving because we're all so mean?
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Postby Chucky Arla » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:26 am

Ifreann wrote:
Chucky Arla wrote:
Assault a child? No, not at all. I'm not quite British military standard.

Adorable.


Thankyou.

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Postby Twilight Imperium » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:33 am

On the flip side, these kinds of threads are very educational about our fellow posters. They're like a poor man's Rorshach blot test - a violent event where we can project whatever attributes we want to onto the perpetrator.

Except instead of us saying that it's a picture of two bears high fiving and thus revealing our aptitude towards energy weapons, the secret prize is racism. :(

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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:34 am

Coia wrote:Good thing they burned a drug seller


They use paper poppies in Britain for Remembrance day.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:34 am

How awful. My sympathies are with the victim and I hope that the perpetrator is found and punished appropriately for such a horrific crime; being drunk is no excuse for assaulting a kid with a makeshift flamethrower, and targeting a boy while he's doing charity work to raise money for war veterans and bereaved families strikes one as particularly low.

I'd also like to register my disgust that the first two pages of this thread consist primarily of people sitting atop their ivory towers declaring how racist it is to assume anything about the perpetrator's intentions and even criticising the soldiers the poppy is supposed to commemorate while any condemnation of the attacker or expression of sympathy for the victim is more or less an afterthought. Assumptions are bad, but it is not unreasonable to suggest given the information we have about the attacker and the context and circumstances of the attack that the perpetrator was motivated by hatred of the British military.
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:36 am

Chucky Arla wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Well I'd hardly put it past you to also assault the boy. But then I'm sure that's the point.


Assault a child? No, not at all. I'm not quite British military standard.


Lad, you've been fed too much.

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Postby Empire of Narnia » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:37 am

That's mean. I hope they find the guy and punish him. I don't think this has anything to do with Islam though. Being drunk in public and radical Islam don't really go together.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:37 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:t it is not unreasonable to suggest given the information we have about the attacker and the context and circumstances of the attack that the perpetrator was motivated by hatred of the British military.

Yeah, it sort of is. All you have is a "maybe he was 1 of 2 possible ethnicities", and without providing any evidence to suggest that blacks and Asians hate the armed forces more than other people, it's racist to presume that was the reason.

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Postby Chucky Arla » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:37 am

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
Chucky Arla wrote:
Assault a child? No, not at all. I'm not quite British military standard.


Lad, you've been fed too much.


I'm sorry. I don't get the intended message there.

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Postby Twilight Imperium » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:38 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:Assumptions are bad, but it is not unreasonable to suggest given the information we have about the attacker and the context and circumstances of the attack that the perpetrator was motivated by hatred of the British military.


Agreed, but from there it's still a bit of a jump to go "muslim!". There's plenty of types of people that dislike the British military.

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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:39 am

Merizoc wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:t it is not unreasonable to suggest given the information we have about the attacker and the context and circumstances of the attack that the perpetrator was motivated by hatred of the British military.

Yeah, it sort of is. All you have is a "maybe he was 1 of 2 possible ethnicities", and without providing any evidence to suggest that blacks and Asians hate the armed forces more than other people, it's racist to presume that was the reason.


I assume, since a lot of Asians are Muslims in Britain, and a lot of hardline Muslims or apparent Muslims hold protests and want British soldiers to be beheaded, the ones making such statements assume they're Muslim.

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Postby Vassenor » Sun Nov 02, 2014 11:40 am

Twilight Imperium wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:Assumptions are bad, but it is not unreasonable to suggest given the information we have about the attacker and the context and circumstances of the attack that the perpetrator was motivated by hatred of the British military.


Agreed, but from there it's still a bit of a jump to go "muslim!". There's plenty of types of people that dislike the British military.


Indeed. Twenty years ago if this had happened everyone would be assuming it was an Irishman.

EDIT: Assuming the IRA was still a thing in 1994. But you get the point.
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