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Would/ do you prefer an introverted or extroverted partner?

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Extroverted
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Total votes : 40

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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:43 pm

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Firsthome wrote:Nah, I like my girls not looking for attention
Short shorts aren't always worn for the purpose of sex appeal. Sometimes it's because it's just hot outside.


Florida and Texas Colleges would be good examples.
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Postby Zaldakki » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:43 pm

Spoder wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I like my women looking sexy, so of course I will say "bring on the short shorts and lingerie".

Again, I really don't believe "one size fits all".

It will look good on some, not so good on others.

Ideally, she'd be fit so it'd look good on her.

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Postby The Flood » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:45 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Manisdog wrote:1. no, we need to teach children how to behave, they would go running around have sex, get into relationships
2. when what they ought to be doing is studying
3. my mother never canned me, I was in boarding school and I used to get canned all the time, I hated it then but now i thank them

1. I mean, its not something to encourage, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it. That's what teenagers do. Torturing them isn't going to change that. All you can hope to do is teach them how to do it safely, and give them a slap on the wrist.
2. Implying they can't do both. I did both.
3. Its fucking torture.
My children, should I ever have any, will be absolutely forbidden from having sex at any point while they are living under my roof, and will be punished severely (in a non physical or abusive way, of course), should they break that rule.

Unless they got married while living under my roof, but that is exceedingly unlikely.
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Postby T Roosevelt » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:45 pm

Spoder wrote:
T Roosevelt wrote:Were the stairs wooden or covered with a carpet? It's definitely child abuse if you were slammed into wooden stairs by your father.

...

What even is this. I think I'm becoming more closed-minded and stupid just by reading your posts.

IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER WHAT THE STAIRS WERE COVERED WITH.

I think it would matter, wooden stairs are sharper and being slammed into those would probably kill someone. Severity is the difference between discipline and attempted murder.
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Postby Zaldakki » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:47 pm

The Flood wrote:
Grenartia wrote:1. I mean, its not something to encourage, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it. That's what teenagers do. Torturing them isn't going to change that. All you can hope to do is teach them how to do it safely, and give them a slap on the wrist.
2. Implying they can't do both. I did both.
3. Its fucking torture.
My children, should I ever have any, will be absolutely forbidden from having sex at any point while they are living under my roof, and will be punished severely (in a non physical or abusive way, of course), should they break that rule.

Unless they got married while living under my roof, but that is exceedingly unlikely.

I don't want my parents to be strict with me about it, but I'm gonna be strict with my kids about it. Hypocritical I know, but yeah.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:48 pm

The Flood wrote:
Grenartia wrote:1. I mean, its not something to encourage, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it. That's what teenagers do. Torturing them isn't going to change that. All you can hope to do is teach them how to do it safely, and give them a slap on the wrist.
2. Implying they can't do both. I did both.
3. Its fucking torture.
My children, should I ever have any, will be absolutely forbidden from having sex at any point while they are living under my roof, and will be punished severely (in a non physical or abusive way, of course), should they break that rule.

Unless they got married while living under my roof, but that is exceedingly unlikely.


My children, should I ever have any will be allowed to have sex only once they understand the meaning of contraception, how to use it, and they are already working at least part time and have a driver's license if they want to. That, and they learn the meaning of privacy and that the house might not be the best place to have sex where anyone can walk in on them unless they lock the doors.

I might turn out be a liberal parent, but even I have my limits.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:49 pm

Manisdog wrote:You can SHARE your Motorcycle with your friends.

Ué, you can share significant others just like you can share friends.

I will never understand how are people connected with the idea of monogamy on a deep emotional level.

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Postby Zaldakki » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:50 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Manisdog wrote:You can SHARE your Motorcycle with your friends.

Ué, you can share significant others just like you can share friends.

I will never understand how are people connected with the idea of monogamy on a deep emotional level.

Alloromantics...

It all comes down to jealousy. :)

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:50 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Manisdog wrote:You can SHARE your Motorcycle with your friends.

Ué, you can share significant others just like you can share friends.

I will never understand how are people connected with the idea of monogamy on a deep emotional level.

Alloromantics...


I'm not entirely sure any of my girlfriends or my wife would be too interested in being shared :lol2:
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:51 pm

Zaldakki wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Ué, you can share significant others just like you can share friends.

I will never understand how are people connected with the idea of monogamy on a deep emotional level.

Alloromantics...

It all comes down to jealousy. :)


I used to be jealous.

Nowadays I'm hardly jealous at all when it comes down to it.
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Postby Spoder » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:51 pm

The Flood wrote:
Grenartia wrote:1. I mean, its not something to encourage, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it. That's what teenagers do. Torturing them isn't going to change that. All you can hope to do is teach them how to do it safely, and give them a slap on the wrist.
2. Implying they can't do both. I did both.
3. Its fucking torture.
My children, should I ever have any, will be absolutely forbidden from having sex at any point while they are living under my roof, and will be punished severely (in a non physical or abusive way, of course), should they break that rule.

Unless they got married while living under my roof, but that is exceedingly unlikely.

If I chose to have children, I would be fine with them having sex as long as they used contraceptives and understood the meaning of "safe sex", and they understood the emotional attachment they or their partner could possibly have and understood what the possible consequences would be.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:56 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:Really? I've read only as old as 14. Huh, they might be on the upper edge of the bell curve then?

My family has plenty of cases of 16 from my grandma's generation and before. By that time 17 was also possible.
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Postby Manisdog » Sun Nov 02, 2014 9:57 pm

Manisdog wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
1. I mean, its not something to encourage, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it. That's what teenagers do. Torturing them isn't going to change that. All you can hope to do is teach them how to do it safely, and give them a slap on the wrist.

2. Implying they can't do both. I did both.

3. Its fucking torture.



1) The only way to do something is to keep them occupied make them play golf,polo( i played this game), boxing, cricket, tennis,debate,music etc. Make them tired so they go to sleep

2) Make sure children study for atleast 8 hours everyday, we work for 8 hours and children should do the same

3) its not torture


no guys your just doing it wrong

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Postby Zaldakki » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:00 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:Really? I've read only as old as 14. Huh, they might be on the upper edge of the bell curve then?

My family has plenty of cases of 16 from my grandma's generation and before. By that time 17 was also possible.

Why did old generations start puberty so late?

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Postby New England and The Maritimes » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:01 pm

Zaldakki wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:My family has plenty of cases of 16 from my grandma's generation and before. By that time 17 was also possible.

Why did old generations start puberty so late?

We pump our children full of hormone tainted dairy products their entire childhood today. Yay capitalism.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:02 pm

Zaldakki wrote:It all comes down to jealousy. :)

And I can't understand how it isn't a socially constructed entity, how it's entrenched on a deep emotional level.

We learn to share relatives, we learn to share friends, we should theoretically also learn to be okay about sexual and romantic partners having their own isolated life...
Soldati senza confini wrote:I'm not entirely sure any of my girlfriends or my wife would be too interested in being shared :lol2:

What I'm going to say might sound bigoted to some, but it's wide common sense in Brazil that open relationships and non-monogamy in general always historically empowered heterosexual cisgender men (e.g. those on my dad's line, including himself), rather than other kinds of people, so ideally it should be requested by the ones who are socially expected as all hell to not be into it.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:05 pm

New England and The Maritimes wrote:We pump our children full of hormone tainted dairy products their entire childhood today. Yay capitalism.

Or carcinogenic plastic residues that function as artificial hormones.

There's a widely present pollutant present in "everybody's" bodies" that acts as estrogen replacement.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:10 pm

Manisdog wrote:ok back to the topic,

Children below the age of lets say 16, if they are found doing such things

they must be canned

They never should be canned for that.

If they are too young to understand what happened and might happen, physical discipline is going to worse it all and further warp their young psychology.

If they are old enough to know what they are doing, well, they are old enough to know what they are doing. There are better ways to discourage risk-taking.

Mind you, I'm sure I will only have it very far in my 20s, and I don't feel bad about it, but we shouldn't be the ones to decide on such private matters unless it's blatantly abusive.
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Postby Grenartia » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:11 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
Yeah, if there was any doubt before, its all erased now. TRollsevelt is fucking with us.

If you can't accomplish corporal discipline with a belt (no, not excessive use, but reasonable and appropriate use), then you're either too fucking strict, or your kid has a psychological issue that needs to be looked into.


My dad just had to hit me three times across the bum with a belt. Not the "evilla" (or the metal part) but the leather and a light touch on the bum just to make me cry without leaving marks. This just happened around 3 times in my lifetime.


See, with me, I got spanked often, but only as a little kid, because my misbehavior was due to undiagnosed (and therefore untreated) ADHD. But never hard enough to leave any marks.

Manisdog wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
1. I mean, its not something to encourage, but there's nothing inherently wrong with it. That's what teenagers do. Torturing them isn't going to change that. All you can hope to do is teach them how to do it safely, and give them a slap on the wrist.

2. Implying they can't do both. I did both.

3. Its fucking torture.



1) The only way to do something is to keep them occupied make them play golf,polo( i played this game), boxing, cricket, tennis,debate,music etc. Make them tired so they go to sleep

2) Make sure children study for atleast 8 hours everyday, we work for 8 hours and children should do the same

3) its not torture


1. Except, that disadvantages kids in poverty. Also, it should be up to the kids whether or not they want to do extracirriculars.

2. More trouble than its worth. You're never going to get as much out of 8 hours of forced study as you want. All you're going to get are bored and socially stunted students. Just let the teens be fucking teens, and only mandate that they get good grades, let them figure out how to do it or suffer the consequences. Worked for me.

3. Yes, it is. Only barbaric countries practice and allow caning.

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T Roosevelt wrote:Were the stairs wooden or covered with a carpet? It's definitely child abuse if you were slammed into wooden stairs by your father.

...

What even is this. I think I'm becoming more closed-minded and stupid just by reading your posts.

IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER WHAT THE STAIRS WERE COVERED WITH.


Can somebody report this guy already? I would, but I'm pretty sure I've burned all my bridges with Moderation for today.

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The Flood wrote:My children, should I ever have any, will be absolutely forbidden from having sex at any point while they are living under my roof, and will be punished severely (in a non physical or abusive way, of course), should they break that rule.

Unless they got married while living under my roof, but that is exceedingly unlikely.

If I chose to have children, I would be fine with them having sex as long as they used contraceptives and understood the meaning of "safe sex", and they understood the emotional attachment they or their partner could possibly have and understood what the possible consequences would be.


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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:15 pm

Manisdog wrote:spare the rod spoil the child

Seriously, one two nice flicks of the cane would make these things go away, the reason why children are becoming like this because they made it illegal to use a cane or discipline children,

B.S.

I never really needed violence.

If my parents were more reckless in their use of it they would just be aggressive nasty fuckers more interested at silencing me and my possible ~undermining~ of their ~authority~ than really wishing and working for my best, and ignoring how I might actually have trouble in carrying out what they want me to for reasons that might be not fault of my good will or good faith.

Don't generalize people based on this. People who need to beat their children in the first place didn't know how to pass respect and values on them as they were children. And that's solely their fault.
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:19 pm

Manisdog wrote:3) its not torture

That's what plastic souls say. I'd find it dehumanizing humiliation.

I'm sure as all hell that people other than my relatives with the face to physically punish me would get a well-deserved bite.

And I never fought physically as a child.
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Postby Firsthome » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:52 pm

T Roosevelt wrote:
Spoder wrote:...

What even is this. I think I'm becoming more closed-minded and stupid just by reading your posts.

IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER WHAT THE STAIRS WERE COVERED WITH.

I think it would matter, wooden stairs are sharper and being slammed into those would probably kill someone. Severity is the difference between discipline and attempted murder.


It was hard carpet

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That about covers it.


Sportier girls usually "have a smaller rack" as you would put it
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Postby Ameriganastan » Sun Nov 02, 2014 10:54 pm

Firsthome wrote:
Ameriganastan wrote:Bout 5'9-6'0.
Decent rack.
Full figured, but not fat.
A good ass.
Green eyes.
Glasses.
Has good taste in music (Queen, Judas Priest, etc.)
Nerdy like me.
Enjoys sports.

That about covers it.


Sportier girls usually "have a smaller rack" as you would put it
Same applies for the "ass"

I said enjoys sports. She doesn't have to actually play them.
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Force of nature.
The Ameri Train.
The Ameri song
Tsundere Ameri.
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Ameri goes to court.
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Edward Richtofen wrote:Ameri's so tough that he criticized an Insane Asylum and was promptly let out

Ameri does the impossible.
Fire the Ameri.
Sinovet wrote:Ameri's like Honey badger. He don't give a fuck.

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Onocarcass wrote:Trying to change Ameri, is like trying to drag a 2 ton block of lead with your d**k.

Immoren wrote:When Ameri says something is shit it's good and when Ameri says some thing is good it's great. *nods*

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