(UK of GB and) NI General Election 2015

[Sebastianbourg]

Why not decide it all in a referendum? We could have four options: current status within the UK, devo-max, unification with the Irish Republic and independence (just an extra).

Did it before and the majority said union

I know you had a referendum in 1998 but one in a couple of years certainly wouldn't hurt to further legitimise British rule.

[Frazers]

Did it before and the majority said union

I know you had a referendum in 1998 but one in a couple of years certainly wouldn't hurt to further legitimise British rule.

No mandate

[Old Tyrannia]

Why not decide it all in a referendum? We could have four options: current status within the UK, devo-max, unification with the Irish Republic and independence (just an extra).

Because the unionists would win, let's wait 10 years and have the referendum then.

Personally I doubt there'll be any major change in opinion in the next ten years. Unionists remain the majority and even among Catholics, I believe republicanism is now a minority position, or rapidly becoming one at least. I'd be happy to let Northern Ireland go if they did vote for reunion with the Republic of Ireland, but honestly, I don't see it happening any time soon.

[Nadkor]

Probably not going to bother - if I do it'll probably be Green, I guess. Maybe Alliance since I'm in Naomi Long's constituency and she could probably do with the help.

[Ardoki]

Why should a country be divided on the basis of religion? Do you really believe a secular state is impossible?

Why not decide it all in a referendum? We could have four options: current status within the UK, devo-max, unification with the Irish Republic and independence (just an extra).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

[Frazers]

Why not decide it all in a referendum? We could have four options: current status within the UK, devo-max, unification with the Irish Republic and independence (just an extra).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

What year did you travel from?

[The Liberated Territories]

Can't vote (not Irish), but all of 'em suck anyway.

[Ardoki]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

What year did you travel from?

That comment makes no sense.

[Sebastianbourg]

Why not decide it all in a referendum? We could have four options: current status within the UK, devo-max, unification with the Irish Republic and independence (just an extra).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

I need sources, proof, etc.

[Nadkor]

Why?

Why should a country be divided on the basis of religion? Do you really believe a secular state is impossible?

It's not.

The fact that you think that the Troubles was about religion is a pretty big indicator that you don't know what you're talking about.

[Frazers]

What year did you travel from?

That comment makes no sense.

Gerrymandering isn't a concern of any significance these days. Perhaps you're from the 60s

[Ardoki]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

I need sources, proof, etc.

Here is one book: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=4ESo8fktq9kC&pg=PA19&dq=American+Policy+and+Northern+Ireland:+A+Saga+of+Peacebuilding&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2tZKVKScD4Pn8AWssYDgBg&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

There are others if you can be bothered to look.

[Ardoki]

That comment makes no sense.

Gerrymandering isn't a concern of any significance these days. Perhaps you're from the 60s

Gerrymandering happens all the time in countries around the world.

For example the conservative leaning states in the USA are set up so that the conservatives always win there.

[Frazers]

I need sources, proof, etc.

Here is one book: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=4ESo8fktq9kC&pg=PA19&dq=American+Policy+and+Northern+Ireland:+A+Saga+of+Peacebuilding&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2tZKVKScD4Pn8AWssYDgBg&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

There are others if you can be bothered to look.

Ah I was right. You are from the past

[Chestaan]

Gerrymandering isn't a concern of any significance these days. Perhaps you're from the 60s

Gerrymandering happens all the time in countries around the world.

For example the conservative leaning states in the USA are set up so that the conservatives always win there.

It hasn't been a problem in NI for decades now though.

[Ardoki]

Here is one book: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=4ESo8fktq9kC&pg=PA19&dq=American+Policy+and+Northern+Ireland:+A+Saga+of+Peacebuilding&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2tZKVKScD4Pn8AWssYDgBg&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

There are others if you can be bothered to look.

Ah I was right. You are from the past

You do know we have not discovered time travel? Therefore I cannot be from the past.

It is obvious you are just breaking the site rules, so I shall ignore you from this point onwards.

[Ardoki]

Gerrymandering happens all the time in countries around the world.

For example the conservative leaning states in the USA are set up so that the conservatives always win there.

It hasn't been a problem in NI for decades now though.

It still is.

[Sebastianbourg]

I need sources, proof, etc.

Here is one book: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=4ESo8fktq9kC&pg=PA19&dq=American+Policy+and+Northern+Ireland:+A+Saga+of+Peacebuilding&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2tZKVKScD4Pn8AWssYDgBg&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

There are others if you can be bothered to look.

I am not required to prove your claims and allegations; if you've got any more sources to present that prove gerrymandering then you're the one that should be providing them.

[Frazers]

Why should a country be divided on the basis of religion? Do you really believe a secular state is impossible?

It's not.

The fact that you think that the Troubles was about religion is a pretty big indicator that you don't know what you're talking about.

I think he may be Australian which might explain

[Ardoki]

Here is one book: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=4ESo8fktq9kC&pg=PA19&dq=American+Policy+and+Northern+Ireland:+A+Saga+of+Peacebuilding&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2tZKVKScD4Pn8AWssYDgBg&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false

There are others if you can be bothered to look.

I am not required to prove your claims and allegations; if you've got any more sources to present that prove gerrymandering then you're the one that should be providing them.

I provided one, however I expected that you would be able to use google and verify my claims yourself. Rather than expecting me to verify my claims.

[Ardoki]

It's not.

The fact that you think that the Troubles was about religion is a pretty big indicator that you don't know what you're talking about.

I think he may be Australian which might explain

I don't have citizenship just yet.

[Sebastianbourg]

I am not required to prove your claims and allegations; if you've got any more sources to present that prove gerrymandering then you're the one that should be providing them.

I provided one, however I expected that you would be able to use google and verify my claims yourself. Rather than expecting me to verify my claims.

I am currently reading the piece of supposed proof you gave me; however, anything else you're interested in me reading in order to prove your claim should be provided by you.

[Ardoki]

I provided one, however I expected that you would be able to use google and verify my claims yourself. Rather than expecting me to verify my claims.

I am currently reading the piece of supposed proof you gave me; however, anything else you're interested in me reading in order to prove your claim should be provided by you.

I admit I am biased, so therefore I am only going to provide sources which back up my view.

I believed you to be a neutral actor, if you are would it not be better for you to do your own research?

[Frazers]

I think he may be Australian which might explain

I don't have citizenship just yet.

Oh really

viewtopic.php?p=21356839#p21356839

by Ardoki » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:27 am

I'm an Australian citizen, as I was born here.

[Ardoki]

I don't have citizenship just yet.

Oh really

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... #p21356839

by Ardoki » Fri Aug 15, 2014 12:27 am

I'm an Australian citizen, as I was born here.

Yes? Your point?

I only have birth right to citizenship. I have not yet passed the examination to get actual citizenship (as neither of my parents are citizens).