British 2015 general election poll

[Old Tyrannia]

no it actually is called great britain (because it's bigger than britanny)

Ireland.

Because it is bigger than Ireland.

No, Alyakia is correct. Great Britain is called "great" to distinguish it from Brittany. In French, Great Britain is Grande Bretagne, and Brittany is simply Bretagne. Great Britain is a direct translation of the French term, and refers to the island. "Britain" is shorthand for the island or for any of the political entities ruling it from the union of the crowns in 1603 onwards.

[Arglorand]

I propose we call the island Great Man, to distinguish it from the Isle of Man.

Brittany can be Little Man.

[Dejanic]

"Loosely"=Wrong. Because in common/daily speak, people may generally say "Britain" and mean UK. But legally Britain soley refers to England, Scotland, Wales, and UK additionally refers to NI. All people in the UK will learn this in fucking year 7 Geography class, it isn't hard.

I'm sure you'll be posting a link to this legal definition of Britain then. You're also getting multiple UK citizens disagreeing with your fucking year 7 geography class memories

The problem is, you're not distinguishing between "British isles" and Britain properly, yes NI is part of the British isles, but guess what, so is the Republic of Ireland. But that doesn't mean that Ireland is part of "Britain".

"Great Britain is the largest island of the United Kingdom. Politically, Great Britain refers to the whole of England, Scotland and Wales in combination,[31] but not Northern Ireland"

[Conscentia]

You are mistaken.

No I'm not, you just enjoy hastily trying to derive physical and mental satisfactory pleasure from correcting peoples mistakes and "fooling them" when ironically, in a beguiler twist of fate, 75% of your "corrections" are either questionable, unfounded, or completely and blatantly wrong. You're a Communistt Daily mail, with a dash of Breitbart, and you should feel thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

Well aren't you judgemental.

When have I ever indicated that enjoy correcting people?
When have I ever said "fooling them"?
When have my corrections been wrong?

[Old Tyrannia]

I propose we call the island Great Man, to distinguish it from the Isle of Man.

Brittany can be Little Man.

I think we should call it Great Europe. Because it's better than the real Europe. Ireland can be Mediocre Europe.

[Vassenor]

*sigh*

Have we derailed into another argument about how it's "not allowed" to call Northern Ireland "British" because reasons again?

[Alyakia]

I'm sure you'll be posting a link to this legal definition of Britain then. You're also getting multiple UK citizens disagreeing with your fucking year 7 geography class memories

The problem is, you're not distinguishing between "British isles" and Britain properly, yes NI is part of the British isles, but guess what, so is the Republic of Ireland. But that doesn't mean that Ireland is part of "Britain".

"Great Britain is the largest island of the United Kingdom. Politically, Great Britain refers to the whole of England, Scotland and Wales in combination,[31] but not Northern Ireland"

"During a stop-over visit to the Republic of Ireland in 1989, the leader of the Soviet Union, Mikhail Gorbachev, indicated that he assumed Ireland's head of state was Queen Elizabeth II, given that she was the British Queen and his officials said that Ireland was a part of the British Isles"

couldn't resisting mentioning this

i was going to ask why it isn't called little britain then but it turns out some guy did.

You know what's paradoxical? In Irish, "An Bhréatain Bheag" (Little Britain) is Wales.

oh god it just gets worse and worse

cure ye who unleashed british isles terminology chat on this thread

[Islamic Republic e Jariri]

Wow, what happened to UKIP....? They've lost so much support - and to think they were going to be the new Lib Dems of the 2015 election.

Who's more likely to move into Downing Street: Miliband or Cameron?

Probably Ed Miliband.... yet David Cameron is so close.... the SNP just complicates everything - they don't even care about the UK - they just want to break it up.

[Dejanic]

No I'm not, you just enjoy hastily trying to derive physical and mental satisfactory pleasure from correcting peoples mistakes and "fooling them" when ironically, in a beguiler twist of fate, 75% of your "corrections" are either questionable, unfounded, or completely and blatantly wrong. You're a Communistt Daily mail, with a dash of Breitbart, and you should feel thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

Well aren't you judgemental.

When have I ever indicated that enjoy correcting people?
When have I ever said "fooling them"?
When have my corrections been wrong?

Because you jump into random conversations and made irrelevant corrections just to make yourself look cool. It doesn't make you look cool. It makes you look strange and cruel.
I very highly doubt you do this to "help people".
Your corrections are almost always wrong, in fact I don't think I've ever seen you correct someone and actually be on the ball. In your haste to seem intellectually superior, you usually make sloppy mistakes. It's quite funny actually.

Correcting peoples grammar/spelling over the internet doesn't make you a bad man. It makes you look bad, man.

[Arglorand]

*sigh*

Have we derailed into another argument about how it's "not allowed" to call Northern Ireland "British" because reasons again?

inb4 someone goes

whatsitcalled again

we can drive the British from Ireland for good.

right, thanks

[Vassenor]

Also, given that Dejanic seems to have declared his support for Irish unification in another thread I'm wondering if this is an attempt to force personal politics onto everyone.

[Dejanic]

Also, given that Dejanic seems to have declared his support for Irish unification in another thread I'm wondering if this is an attempt to force personal politics onto everyone.

I've always been open about my support for Irish unification you absolute plank.

[Vassenor]

Also, given that Dejanic seems to have declared his support for Irish unification in another thread I'm wondering if this is an attempt to force personal politics onto everyone.

I've always been open about my support for Irish unification you absolute plank.

So is that why you don't want us talking about Northern Ireland in a thread about UK politics in general?

[Ad Nihilo]

Well this whole Britain / Great Britain debate has been fucking enlightening. (not)

Please take it outside (another thread) and maintain the peace in here.

[Dejanic]

I've always been open about my support for Irish unification you absolute plank.

So is that why you don't want us talking about Northern Ireland in a thread about UK politics in general?

No. I think NI has a unique political situation, unique enough in a sense that its comparable to a foreign country like Belgium, or France, and as a result is deserving of it's own unique thread.

I don't need to force anything, no one is going to have any meaningful discussion about NI politics on a British election thread in the run up to an election where either one of two west minister politicians are going to be PM. If there was a unique NI discussion thread, maybe some actual discussion would happen.

[Imperializt Russia]

I propose we call the island Great Man, to distinguish it from the Isle of Man.

Brittany can be Little Man.

I think we should call it Great Europe. Because it's better than the real Europe. Ireland can be Mediocre Europe.

Let's save Great Europe for an official term for the Merkelreich, federation be praised.

[Alyakia]

I propose we call the island Great Man, to distinguish it from the Isle of Man.

Brittany can be Little Man.

i believe the technical terms are "wee man" and "the big man"

[Skegness-on-Pirn]

Why the toss does UKIP have the most votes in this poll? That's a frightening thought. I support the Tories, naturally, being from Lancashire.

[Miletos]

So is that why you don't want us talking about Northern Ireland in a thread about UK politics in general?

No. I think NI has a unique political situation, unique enough in a sense that its comparable to a foreign country like Belgium, or France, and as a result is deserving of it's own unique thread.

I don't need to force anything, no one is going to have any meaningful discussion about NI politics on a British election thread in the run up to an election where either one of two west minister politicians are going to be PM. If there was a unique NI discussion thread, maybe some actual discussion would happen.

I think it'd be more likely for a meaningful conversation about NI's politics to develop in this thread if you actually posted something in this thread about the election in Northern Ireland and its particulars instead of just going on and on and on about how Northern Ireland being included in the thread of an election in which it is participating is oppression/denial of Northern Ireland's voice, but that's just my take on this.

Feel free to continue blasting your foot off with a 12-gauge, though.

Why the toss does UKIP have the most votes in this poll? That's a frightening thought. I support the Tories, naturally, being from Lancashire.

The current theory, AFAIK, is that lots of US Republicans (and others with the same views but from elsewhere) have been voting for UKIP in the poll, on the basis that both parties operate on the same sort of conservative faux-libertarianism.

[Hydesland]

To be honest, I do actually agree with Dejanic broadly, I see no reason why there shouldn't be allowed a separate NI election thread.

[Arglorand]

I'm surprised we've gone this long arguing about whether NI is British without some good old-fashioned republican legitimatism.

[Dejanic]

No. I think NI has a unique political situation, unique enough in a sense that its comparable to a foreign country like Belgium, or France, and as a result is deserving of it's own unique thread.

I don't need to force anything, no one is going to have any meaningful discussion about NI politics on a British election thread in the run up to an election where either one of two west minister politicians are going to be PM. If there was a unique NI discussion thread, maybe some actual discussion would happen.

Belgium and France send MPs to Westminster?

Fucking sneaky bastards

A few DUP Orangemen who abstain on everything a political situation makes.

Or the SF blokes who don't even take their seats! Productive!

NI's political situation is unique and deserving of it's own discussion, it's pretty simple.

[Alyakia]

No. I think NI has a unique political situation, unique enough in a sense that its comparable to a foreign country like Belgium, or France, and as a result is deserving of it's own unique thread.

I don't need to force anything, no one is going to have any meaningful discussion about NI politics on a British election thread in the run up to an election where either one of two west minister politicians are going to be PM. If there was a unique NI discussion thread, maybe some actual discussion would happen.

Belgium and France send MPs to Westminster?

Fucking sneaky bastards

i heard that if you fail to distinguish between bretange and grande-bretange the MP for rennes will be all up in your shit and legally there will be nothing you do to stop him

[Arglorand]

Belgium and France send MPs to Westminster?

Fucking sneaky bastards

i heard that if you fail to distinguish between bretange and grande-bretange the MP for rennes will be all up in your shit and legally there will be nothing you do to stop him

I gather the Breton Democratic Union are poised to be kingmakers in this year's westminster elections and Miliband has already ruled out forming a coalition

[The Huskar Social Union]

I'm surprised we've gone this long arguing about whether NI is British without some good old-fashioned republican legitimatism.

Oh just wait.

It will show up eventually. Everything does at some point.