British 2015 general election poll

[Vasileus]

I thought that only applied to EU, not outside EU?

Britain has a rapidly ageing population, we're going to need many more immigrants to cope with this.

So does Canada, and we have a points system. We also don't have any of the problems you guys have had, while taking in roughly the same number of immigrants with half the population

[Dejanic]

Don't threaten me. I don't care if you're insulted or not, NI politics don't belong on a thread about British politics, NI isn't part of Britain. NI should either have it's own political thread, or be part of an Irish political thread. If you want to be marginalised by an almost wholly Westminster based discussion thread then that's your problem, but I believe the Irish people deserve better.

Britain is used interchangeably for both the UK and GB on a context basis though.

Britain refers to the Island Britain. NI isn't part of Britain by any technical definition. If Scotland became independent, it would still be part of "Britain" in the sense that unless it gained rocket power and flew off to Scandinavia, it would still be part of the Island of Britain. But unless the DUP Orangemen of NI fly away from Ireland and superglue themselves to Britain, they will stay a part of the Island of Ireland, not the Island of Britain.

Britain does not=UK.

[Arglorand]

Britain has a rapidly ageing population, we're going to need many more immigrants to cope with this.

So does Canada, and we have a points system. We also don't have any of the problems you guys have had, while taking in roughly the same number of immigrants with half the population

Pray tell, what problems has Britain had that Canada hasn't? Aside from racists?

[Dejanic]

Britain has a rapidly ageing population, we're going to need many more immigrants to cope with this.

So does Canada, and we have a points system. We also don't have any of the problems you guys have had, while taking in roughly the same number of immigrants with half the population

You talking about Brown people here?

Because I'm getting that impression from you, son of Farage.

[Britanno 2]

Britain refers to the Island Britain. NI isn't part of Britain by any technical definition. If Scotland became independent, it would still be part of "Britain" in the sense that unless it gained rocket power and flew off to Scandinavia, it would still be part of the Island of Britain. But unless the DUP Orangemen of NI fly away from Ireland and superglue themselves to Britain, they will stay a part of the Island of Ireland, not the Island of Britain.

Britain does not=UK.

The problem is that you only recently changed this to "British general election" over "UK general election".

You changed the title because of your views on the comparison between NI and GB politics. We're not going to stop talking about one when they're both part of the same election.

[Marcurix]

So does Canada, and we have a points system. We also don't have any of the problems you guys have had, while taking in roughly the same number of immigrants with half the population

Pray tell, what problems has Britain had that Canada hasn't? Aside from racists?

Enclaves, integration and representation apparently.

[Conscentia]

Britain is used interchangeably for both the UK and GB on a context basis though.

Britain refers to the Island Britain. NI isn't part of Britain by any technical definition. If Scotland became independent, it would still be part of "Britain" in the sense that unless it gained rocket power and flew off to Scandinavia, it would still be part of the Island of Britain. But unless the DUP Orangemen of NI fly away from Ireland and superglue themselves to Britain, they will stay a part of the Island of Ireland, not the Island of Britain.
Britain does not=UK.

The largest British isle is called "Great Britain", not "Britain".

There is no "Island of Britain".

[Vasileus]

So does Canada, and we have a points system. We also don't have any of the problems you guys have had, while taking in roughly the same number of immigrants with half the population

You talking about Brown people here?

Because I'm getting that impression from you, son of Farage.

What.

A larger percentage of Canadians are "brown" than British. Does that make you lot a nation of Mosleys?

[Alyakia]

Pray tell, what problems has Britain had that Canada hasn't? Aside from racists?

Enclaves, integration and representation apparently.

why would you integrate into society when there is no such thing tho

[Imperializt Russia]

Britain refers to the Island Britain. NI isn't part of Britain by any technical definition. If Scotland became independent, it would still be part of "Britain" in the sense that unless it gained rocket power and flew off to Scandinavia, it would still be part of the Island of Britain. But unless the DUP Orangemen of NI fly away from Ireland and superglue themselves to Britain, they will stay a part of the Island of Ireland, not the Island of Britain.
Britain does not=UK.

The largest British isle is called "Great Britain", not "Britain".

Great Britain is the union between the Kingdoms of England & Wales and Scotland.
It constitutes the island of Britain.

Even we aren't so narcissistic to call our main landmass "Great".

[Alyakia]

The largest British isle is called "Great Britain", not "Britain".

Great Britain is the union between the Kingdoms of England & Wales and Scotland.
It constitutes the island of Britain.

Even we aren't so narcissistic to call our main landmass "Great".

no it actually is called great britain (because it's bigger than britanny)

[Conscentia]

The largest British isle is called "Great Britain", not "Britain".

Great Britain is the union between the Kingdoms of England & Wales and Scotland.
It constitutes the island of Britain.

Even we aren't so narcissistic to call our main landmass "Great".

The "great" in "Great Britain" is used in the sense of "big".

[Marcurix]

Great Britain is the union between the Kingdoms of England & Wales and Scotland.
It constitutes the island of Britain.

Even we aren't so narcissistic to call our main landmass "Great".

no it actually is called great britain (because it's bigger than britanny)

Ireland.

Because it is bigger than Ireland.

[Vasileus]

So does Canada, and we have a points system. We also don't have any of the problems you guys have had, while taking in roughly the same number of immigrants with half the population

Pray tell, what problems has Britain had that Canada hasn't? Aside from racists?

Well, not a single major party has a platform for reducing immigration for the election this November. At the least, there are more immigrants/children of immigrants service in the armed forces here than those that leave to fight for ISIS, which isn't the case for Britain.


So there's clearly a problem here. Assimilation, choosing who you let in, whatever it is, you have to admit Canada largely doesn't have these problems. Simply put, you can't ignore the lack of integration and feelings of abandonment the immigration population in Britain has

[Dejanic]

Britain refers to the Island Britain. NI isn't part of Britain by any technical definition. If Scotland became independent, it would still be part of "Britain" in the sense that unless it gained rocket power and flew off to Scandinavia, it would still be part of the Island of Britain. But unless the DUP Orangemen of NI fly away from Ireland and superglue themselves to Britain, they will stay a part of the Island of Ireland, not the Island of Britain.

Britain does not=UK.

The problem is that you only recently changed this to "British general election" over "UK general election".

You changed the title because of your views on the comparison between NI and GB politics. We're not going to stop talking about one when they're both part of the same election.

This was actually established almost immediately when I had that passive aggressive discussion with Frazers on the issue after I made this thread. Since then there's been several separate discussions for NI politics, whilst this thread has been the de-facto British (Scottish, Welsh, English) discussion thread. I recently changed the title to emphasis this, something I should of done long ago. But now a mod, for ideological reasons, has decided that NI politics should be forced upon this thread, and has locked the old NI discussion threads.

I'm not going to bother appealing this, the results will frankly speak for themselves. If there was a separate NI discussion thread, with a proper poll for NI parties, a proper OP, etc, a discussion on NI politics would flourish. But now that we're forced together, all that'll happen is Westminster politics will completely take over the discussion, and NI will be side-lined. There's never been any meaningful NI political talk on this thread, because people don't come to a thread about the nearing UK election, and talk about the SDLP or the DUP. They may do on a proper NI political thread, but they won't do on this thread when the biggest issues in Britain right now are the rise of the SNP, Cameron vs Miliband, ect. What the mods have basically done here is destroy any chance of any meaningful discussion about NI politics, which is sad.

[Imperializt Russia]

Great Britain is the union between the Kingdoms of England & Wales and Scotland.
It constitutes the island of Britain.

Even we aren't so narcissistic to call our main landmass "Great".

The "great" in "Great Britain" is used in the sense of "big".

Yes, it's two large and ancient kingdoms united in political union. It occupies an entire landmass.

[Dejanic]

Britain refers to the Island Britain. NI isn't part of Britain by any technical definition. If Scotland became independent, it would still be part of "Britain" in the sense that unless it gained rocket power and flew off to Scandinavia, it would still be part of the Island of Britain. But unless the DUP Orangemen of NI fly away from Ireland and superglue themselves to Britain, they will stay a part of the Island of Ireland, not the Island of Britain.
Britain does not=UK.

The largest British isle is called "Great Britain", not "Britain".

There is no "Island of Britain".

No Conscentia. Geographically, the island of Britain is called "Britain", Great Britain is a legal/political term.

Nice try! But you failed to defeat me with your strange, off topic, and unnecessary grammar/spelling correction/distinction today! Better luck tomorrow when you correct me for using a lower-case c to discuss communism (again).

[Arglorand]

The "great" in "Great Britain" is used in the sense of "big".

Yes, it's two large and ancient kingdoms united in political union. It occupies an entire landmass.

So did Ireland until... whoops

[Conscentia]

The "great" in "Great Britain" is used in the sense of "big".

Yes, it's two large and ancient kingdoms united in political union. It occupies an entire landmass.

It's referred to as "Great Britain" because it's the largest island in the archipelago. (ie. It's the most great in terms of size.)

Geographical terms:
The British Isles is a group of islands in the Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Continental Europe. It includes Ireland, Great Britain, the Isle of Man, Shetland, Orkney, and thousands of smaller islands. Traditionally the Channel Islands are included, though these specific islands are geographically closer to mainland continental Europe, being positioned off the French coast of Normandy. This, in part, has resulted in the term being disputed.[1][2]
Great Britain is the largest island of the archipelago.[3][4][5]
Ireland is the second largest island of the archipelago and lies directly to the west of Great Britain. The island of Ireland itself has its own list of Irish Isles.
The full list of islands in the British Isles includes over 6,000 islands,[6] of which 51 have an area larger than 20 km².

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminolo ... tish_Isles

[Conscentia]

The largest British isle is called "Great Britain", not "Britain".
There is no "Island of Britain".

No Conscentia. Geographically, the island of Britain is called "Britain", Great Britain is a legal/political term.
Nice try! But you failed to defeat me with your strange, off topic, and unnecessary grammar/spelling correction/distinction today! Better luck tomorrow when you correct me for using a lower-case c to discuss communism (again).

You are mistaken.

[Alyakia]

no it actually is called great britain (because it's bigger than britanny)

Ireland.

Because it is bigger than Ireland.

i was going to ask why it isn't called little britain then but it turns out some guy did. great. now i need to start looking for years. still, i can't discount the anglo-saxon and french reason for using it as probably being more significant and long lasting.

The "great" in "Great Britain" is used in the sense of "big".

Yes, it's two large and ancient kingdoms united in political union. It occupies an entire landmass.

but seriously we've been calling it great britain officially for centuries before the union exists and unofficially since before the kingdom of england existed.

[Dejanic]

No Conscentia. Geographically, the island of Britain is called "Britain", Great Britain is a legal/political term.

Nice try! But you failed to defeat me with your strange, off topic, and unnecessary grammar/spelling correction/distinction today! Better luck tomorrow when you correct me for using a lower-case c to discuss communism (again).

OED

Great Britain is the name for the island that comprises England, Scotland, and Wales, although the term is also used loosely to refer to the United Kingdom. The United Kingdom is a political unit that includes these countries and Northern Ireland. The British Isles is a geographical term that refers to the United Kingdom, Ireland, and surrounding smaller islands such as the Hebrides and the Channel Islands.

"Loosely"=Wrong. Because in common/daily speak, people may generally say "Britain" and mean UK. But legally Britain soley refers to England, Scotland, Wales, and UK additionally refers to NI. All people in the UK will learn this in fucking year 7 Geography class, it isn't hard.

[Imperializt Russia]

Ireland.

Because it is bigger than Ireland.

i was going to ask why it isn't called little britain then but it turns out some guy did. great. now i need to start looking for years. still, i can't discount the anglo-saxon and french reason for using it as probably being more significant and long lasting.

Apparently, Ptolemy in a work circa 150AD.
In a subsequent work, he updated the names with what he believed to be native names.

[Arglorand]

Ireland.

Because it is bigger than Ireland.

i was going to ask why it isn't called little britain then but it turns out some guy did.

You know what's paradoxical? In Irish, "An Bhréatain Bheag" (Little Britain) is Wales.

[Dejanic]

No Conscentia. Geographically, the island of Britain is called "Britain", Great Britain is a legal/political term.
Nice try! But you failed to defeat me with your strange, off topic, and unnecessary grammar/spelling correction/distinction today! Better luck tomorrow when you correct me for using a lower-case c to discuss communism (again).

You are mistaken.

No I'm not, you just enjoy hastily trying to derive physical and mental satisfactory pleasure from correcting peoples mistakes and "fooling them" when ironically, in a beguiler twist of fate, 75% of your "corrections" are either questionable, unfounded, or completely and blatantly wrong. You're a Communist Daily mail, with a dash of Breitbart, and you should feel thoroughly ashamed of yourself.