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Who would you vote for?

Labour
342
20%
Conservatives
346
20%
Ukip
394
23%
Greens
246
14%
Liberal Democrats
149
9%
SNP
77
5%
Plaid Cymru
32
2%
Respect
35
2%
Other (please state)
79
5%
 
Total votes : 1700

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Postby The UK in Exile » Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:32 pm

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Olerand wrote:1- All jobs lost are jobs lost, and wealth lost too. If they are "small" or "irrelevant" does not matter. They are potential wealth gone.


Losing jobs does not necessarily reduce wealth. What matters is whether more productivity is generated by the new, smaller workforce - and at present, that is very much the case.


Assuming we are talking about the UK it is very much not the case.
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Postby Adurnak » Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:54 am

As is typical in politics none of the parties really check all of the boxes, but a UKIP/Tory coalition would probably what I would vote for (it's a shame you can't vote for a coalition tbh).
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Postby Settrah » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:37 am

Adurnak wrote:(it's a shame you can't vote for a coalition tbh).


Voting for a coalition as a routine practice will become a nightmare after a while, when you consider how many third parties are becoming more prominent, and assuming something hilarious like a green/ukip coalition were to happen.
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:39 am

I am amazed by the amount of voters for UKIP i thougt this site was almost all leftists.
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Postby Settrah » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:42 am

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I am amazed by the amount of voters for UKIP i thougt this site was almost all leftists.


I wouldn't say this site is full of leftists. But rather that people tend to observe this site with a rightist gaze, which would make people seem leftist in comparison.

Just my thoughts though.
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:44 am

Our Governator wrote:
Dejanic wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-faces-prospect-of-losing-more-than-30-seats-in-scotland-at-the-next-election-poll-reveals-9828786.html

Seems like Labour is Scotland is getting hammered. Whilst I respect the Scottish electorate, this may be a bad move on their part as it's now very possible we're going to get 5 more years of Tory rule, unless of course Labour and the Snp go into some form of a coalition.

The funny thing is that if Labour manage to at the very least close the gap with the Tories in terms of seats (which will almost certainly happen), then the Lib Dems might actually end up being the play maker again, even though the party certainly doesn't deserve such a position.

Why all the hate for the LibDems?


People hate the Lib Dems because there's something wrong with their head. It seems like when a party promises 20 things and fulfills 19 but misses one of the main points, they're automatically unreliable, untrustworthy and bad. I've always said it and always will, half of our country is uneducated beyond belief and should not be trusted with a vote. I don't like the Lib Dems because of their nuclear, energy and military policies but I certainly don't hold them responsible for the tuition fees since not only was it not their fault, but it was the only promise of 13 from the '13 point plan' that they failed to achieve.

There is no reliable party in the UK, and there's 20 million idiots here, so having a good result from an election has the same odds as San Marino winning a UEFA Euro Championship.
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Postby Settrah » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:47 am

Our Governator wrote:
Dejanic wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-faces-prospect-of-losing-more-than-30-seats-in-scotland-at-the-next-election-poll-reveals-9828786.html

Seems like Labour is Scotland is getting hammered. Whilst I respect the Scottish electorate, this may be a bad move on their part as it's now very possible we're going to get 5 more years of Tory rule, unless of course Labour and the Snp go into some form of a coalition.

The funny thing is that if Labour manage to at the very least close the gap with the Tories in terms of seats (which will almost certainly happen), then the Lib Dems might actually end up being the play maker again, even though the party certainly doesn't deserve such a position.

Why all the hate for the LibDems?


Not to intentionally parrot what several people have already said before, but the LibDems are spineless. They make the most of their flexible centrism, to get into bed with the nearest winning party at the time, to save themselves total defeat, and then just makes the tea.

As an independent party, Clegg likes to call himself a 'radical centrist'. And that instead of the left worshiping the state, or the right worshiping the market, he as a liberal worships the people. I don't see it, personally.

I kinda actually think the LibDems are redundant as a party now. With the Greens being hard left, Labour centre left, and Ukip as the new prominent right wing party, with the Conservatives leaning from the right more to the centre, what usage do the LibDems really have now? What do they offer?
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sat Nov 01, 2014 7:52 am

In other news, the Whig party was just refounded a week ago.

Any voters?

The new Whig party looks like a midway between Conservatives and Lib Dems

1. The Whig View of History
We believe that our best days are ahead of us. We put our faith in reason and progress, and on what unites us rather than what divides us.

2. Human Rights
We believe that society should enable human flourishing and respect the dignity of all its members. To achieve this we fight against poverty, discrimination, and disease.

3. Mångfald
Diversity makes Britain great, and it makes Britain strong. We celebrate the fact that so many people choose to make their homes here and contribute to our national life, because the widest range of inputs are essential to deliver the best outcomes.

4. Social Justice
We believe that a developed nation is one whose laws are made from the perspective of all members of society. We believe that the laws passed by Parliament should benefit the worst-off in society as much as the most advantaged.

5. Democracy
We believe that our political system is simple and accessible, and that everyone has the right to take part in politics. We encourage as many people as possible to exercise their right to vote and to stand for election.

6. Love of country
We are proud of the institutions that we have built together and that we share – like the NHS and the BBC – and which set this country apart. We believe in investing in them for our future.

7. Britain’s central place in the world
Whigs have always believed that Britain belongs at the top table of global affairs. Today we believe that our position should depend on our moral authority and our allegiances with the Commonwealth, the Anglosphere, and the European Union.

8. Confidence
We believe progress, intelligence, and decency are what the British electorate expect. We are confident that our values reflect the best aspects of ourselves and are shared by most of the British people.


Standing in 3 constituencies but rapidly increasing, it seems.
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:04 am

Well, I'm not from the UK but I'm here with the sole purpose of increase my general culture knowledge. For that reason I took the quiz of "I side with" and my results were.

Liberal Democrats: 60% (Economy and foreign policy)
Green: 59% (Environmental and migration issues)
Labour: 58% (Economic and foreign policy)
SNP: 56% (Environment and Scotland related issues)
Plaid Cymru: 31% (Welch politic power)
Conservatives: 27% (No major issues)
British Nationals: 5% (Almost nothing)
UKIP: 2% (Almost nothing)

In the political sphere of the UK, I'd be considered what?

Thank you for reading this.
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:16 am

San Jose Guayabal wrote:Well, I'm not from the UK but I'm here with the sole purpose of increase my general culture knowledge. For that reason I took the quiz of "I side with" and my results were.

Liberal Democrats: 60% (Economy and foreign policy)
Green: 59% (Environmental and migration issues)
Labour: 58% (Economic and foreign policy)
SNP: 56% (Environment and Scotland related issues)
Plaid Cymru: 31% (Welch politic power)
Conservatives: 27% (No major issues)
British Nationals: 5% (Almost nothing)
UKIP: 2% (Almost nothing)

In the political sphere of the UK, I'd be considered what?

Thank you for reading this.


A loose Liberal / Social Democrat

You'd probably vote for Labour if you lived here and had a choice.
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Postby Settrah » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:26 am

San Jose Guayabal wrote:Well, I'm not from the UK but I'm here with the sole purpose of increase my general culture knowledge. For that reason I took the quiz of "I side with" and my results were.

Liberal Democrats: 60% (Economy and foreign policy)
Green: 59% (Environmental and migration issues)
Labour: 58% (Economic and foreign policy)
SNP: 56% (Environment and Scotland related issues)
Plaid Cymru: 31% (Welch politic power)
Conservatives: 27% (No major issues)
British Nationals: 5% (Almost nothing)
UKIP: 2% (Almost nothing)

In the political sphere of the UK, I'd be considered what?

Thank you for reading this.


A green social democrat.

Unofficially. I'd consider you an an eco-liberal.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:44 am

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I am amazed by the amount of voters for UKIP i thougt this site was almost all leftists.


Given the number of people in Factbooks going on about how their nation executes anyone who's not a heterosexual cisgender white Christian, I'd say that assumption's a little flawed.
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:49 am

Vassenor wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I am amazed by the amount of voters for UKIP i thougt this site was almost all leftists.


Given the number of people in Factbooks going on about how their nation executes anyone who's not a heterosexual cisgender white Christian, I'd say that assumption's a little flawed.

oke it was too generalising.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:55 am

Vassenor wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I am amazed by the amount of voters for UKIP i thougt this site was almost all leftists.


Given the number of people in Factbooks going on about how their nation executes anyone who's not a heterosexual cisgender white Christian, I'd say that assumption's a little flawed.


I wonder how many of those people would switch their vote to the BNP if it was added to the poll.
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Postby Our Governator » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:56 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Given the number of people in Factbooks going on about how their nation executes anyone who's not a heterosexual cisgender white Christian, I'd say that assumption's a little flawed.


I wonder how many of those people would switch their vote to the BNP if it was added to the poll.

Or those "Britain First" types.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:58 am

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The Nihilistic view wrote:
I wonder how many of those people would switch their vote to the BNP if it was added to the poll.

Or those "Britain First" types.


They are BNP splitters.
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Postby Our Governator » Sat Nov 01, 2014 8:59 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Our Governator wrote:Or those "Britain First" types.


They are BNP splitters.

Yes, but somehow they strike me as even worse.
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:01 am

Our Governator wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
They are BNP splitters.

Yes, but somehow they strike me as even worse.


They're the ones the BNP ejected in an attempt to make themselves more marketable.
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Postby Adurnak » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:07 am

San Jose Guayabal wrote:Well, I'm not from the UK but I'm here with the sole purpose of increase my general culture knowledge. For that reason I took the quiz of "I side with" and my results were.

Liberal Democrats: 60% (Economy and foreign policy)
Green: 59% (Environmental and migration issues)
Labour: 58% (Economic and foreign policy)
SNP: 56% (Environment and Scotland related issues)
Plaid Cymru: 31% (Welch politic power)
Conservatives: 27% (No major issues)
British Nationals: 5% (Almost nothing)
UKIP: 2% (Almost nothing)

In the political sphere of the UK, I'd be considered what?

Thank you for reading this.

Just tried the "I side with" website as well and I got this
72% Conservatives
on social, foreign policy, environmental, healthcare, and immigration issues.

70% Liberal Democrats
on social, economic, environmental, and education issues.

63% Labour
on social, environmental, education, immigration, and transportation issues.


59% UK Independence
on foreign policy and immigration issues.

53% Green
on social, economic, and education issues.

I'm not a very decisive person it seems.
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:24 am

I also did I side with quiz.
The first party was UKIP and than the Conservatives.
What are the main differences expect the EU pint of view of UKIP?
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Postby Vassenor » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:28 am

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I also did I side with quiz.
The first party was UKIP and than the Conservatives.
What are the main differences expect the EU pint of view of UKIP?


UKIP are much more vocally anti-immigrant as well as anti-EU.

Basically they seem to be of the idea that if we get rid of all the immigrants coming here to steal jobs and sponge benefits then the economy will magically fix itself.
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Postby Espresso and Insanity » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:17 am

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I also did I side with quiz.
The first party was UKIP and than the Conservatives.
What are the main differences expect the EU pint of view of UKIP?


The UKIP is more right wing on social and economic issues, and they voice much heavier opposition to things like immigration, same sex marriage, and the EU. They're also heavily populist.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Nov 01, 2014 2:49 pm

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I also did I side with quiz.
The first party was UKIP and than the Conservatives.
What are the main differences expect the EU pint of view of UKIP?


You like Pints so you like Nigel Farage.
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Postby Dejanic » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:16 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:I also did I side with quiz.
The first party was UKIP and than the Conservatives.
What are the main differences expect the EU pint of view of UKIP?


You like Pints so you like Nigel Farage.

Well you gotta be pretty drunk to buy his bullshit. :lol2:
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Postby Dejanic » Sat Nov 01, 2014 3:18 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Given the number of people in Factbooks going on about how their nation executes anyone who's not a heterosexual cisgender white Christian, I'd say that assumption's a little flawed.


I wonder how many of those people would switch their vote to the BNP if it was added to the poll.

I doubt many, the BNP isn't just dead, it's a rotting corpse that's ready to disintegrate. The party probably won't exist in another year.
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