British 2015 general election poll

[The Liberated Territories]

I must say, Britain is probably the second most apathetic country after Germany with no sense of patriotism at all. The only thing that tends to "unite" people on the streets is anything to do with the royalty, and even then I doubt more than half the country celebrate it.

Totally different from Bastille Day in France, Constitution Day in Poland or 4th July in US.

Thoes national days also have sweeping bold political statements behind them you may notice whether its Liberté, égalité and fraternité, no taxation without representation or just a free united poland, what brave and bold idea would a united kingdom national day celebrate? I'm not saying its impossible that there is one but we need to stop being a country that used to own an empire and become something new with ideals worth celebrating.

Britain's national rallying cry: "God Save the Queen from the bloody immigrants!"

[Alyakia]

why?

> my parents are here
> tuition fees
> cost of living in the us
> employment laws in the us
> immigration laws in the us
> obama

why do you want to vote for a party that wants to make the UK more like the US then? tuition fees have already been raised, employment has been fucked to the point they now charge you to fight an unfair dismissal. basically all you have is immigration, which isn't going to last very long. not to mention how cameron was one step away from just shouting YES WE CAN in 2010.

America is doing fine atm

This is going in my sig.

i feel like it would be petty to go to the signature thread in moderation but i'm pretty sure that puts your over the limit

[Conscentia]

Come on, clearly our greatest achievement was inventing gravity!

You also invented time and evolution, can't forget that.

Nah, obviously the Babylonians invented time. It's why all clocks are in base 60.

[British Home Counties]

> my parents are here
> tuition fees
> cost of living in the us
> employment laws in the us
> immigration laws in the us
> obama

why do you want to vote for a party that wants to make the UK more like the US then? tuition fees have already been raised, employment has been fucked to the point they now charge you to fight an unfair dismissal. basically all you have is immigration, which isn't going to last very long. not to mention how cameron was one step away from just shouting YES WE CAN in 2010.

Because I am fiscally conservative with no recognition of keynesianism at all, and in UK's position the fact that we're not like Greece is already an achievement. your point would be valid 1995 - 2008, not today, and for at least 3 or 4 years. I don't expect things to improve until the last 20 months of the next conservative government, so i am grateful that I would have to pay 9k for tuition rather than more and that employment is a possibility at all

[Szoratorium]

If Labour wins I'll do everything in my power to nuke the UK.

[Arglorand]

If Labour wins I'll do everything in my power to nuke the UK.

How lucky we are that your power doesn't actually amount to much at all.

[British Home Counties]

If Labour wins I'll do everything in my power to nuke the UK.

You are anti anti-antifa?
You hate the haters who hate the haters?

This blows my mind.

[Szoratorium]

If Labour wins I'll do everything in my power to nuke the UK.

How lucky we are that your power doesn't actually amount to much at all.

And how would you know that?

[Conscentia]

If Labour wins I'll do everything in my power to nuke the UK.

But the Conservatives winning is fine to the guy who apparently "dislikes" social conservatism.

[The Liberated Territories]

If Labour wins I'll do everything in my power to nuke the UK.

You are anti anti-antifa?
You hate the haters who hate the haters?

This blows my mind.

Insert obligatory media reference

[Szoratorium]

If Labour wins I'll do everything in my power to nuke the UK.

But the Conservatives winning is fine to the guy who apparently "likes" Stalinism and "dislikes" social conservatism.

At least conservatives aren't pussies as liberals are. Remember, orthodox Marxism is heresy. As far as I remember, no Conservative/Republican held hatred against USSR or any of the Warsaw Pact members post-1990, unlike Labour and Demorats.

[Arglorand]

How lucky we are that your power doesn't actually amount to much at all.

And how would you know that?

You're not serious are you

[Arglorand]

But the Conservatives winning is fine to the guy who apparently "likes" Stalinism and "dislikes" social conservatism.

At least conservatives aren't pussies as liberals are. Remember, orthodox Marxism is heresy. As far as I remember, no Conservative/Republican hold hatred against USSR or any of the Warsaw Pact members post-1990, unlike Labour and Demorats.

What no what the hell are you even on

[Great Empire of Ireland]

I would have to go with Labour. As much as I despise Miliband I hate Cameron 10 times as much.

[Washington Resistance Army]

How lucky we are that your power doesn't actually amount to much at all.

And how would you know that?

Nuke London right now, do it.

[Alyakia]

Ms Sturgeon said: "I think I can safely say that we do still want Scotland to be independent.

"But at this general election - with the power of the big parties weaker than ever before - I say this to people of progressive opinion all across the UK.

"As long as Scotland remains part of the Westminster system, we will be your allies in seeking to shake up and reform that outdated and discredited system once and for all.

"Westminster needs to change. To be more responsive to the needs and demands of ordinary people, wherever they are in the UK.

"So to people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, I make this promise. The SNP stands ready to work with you in making that positive change for all of us."

[Lunas Legion]

Ms Sturgeon said: "I think I can safely say that we do still want Scotland to be independent.

"But at this general election - with the power of the big parties weaker than ever before - I say this to people of progressive opinion all across the UK.

"As long as Scotland remains part of the Westminster system, we will be your allies in seeking to shake up and reform that outdated and discredited system once and for all.

"Westminster needs to change. To be more responsive to the needs and demands of ordinary people, wherever they are in the UK.

"So to people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, I make this promise. The SNP stands ready to work with you in making that positive change for all of us."

As long as they force through STV or PR, I'll be slightly less anti-SNP than I am already. But only slightly.

[Grave_n_idle]

How lucky we are that your power doesn't actually amount to much at all.

And how would you know that?

Because all the things your signature proudly claims to dislike still exist.

*shrugs*

But why are we even talking about nuking the UK? Can't we just have a mature discussion about politics?

[Britanno]

If Labour wins I'll do everything in my power to nuke the UK.

But the Conservatives winning is fine to the guy who apparently "dislikes" social conservatism.

Because of course, Cameron's policies of on-demand abortion and banning same-sex marriage are so social conservative. Oh wait.

[Vyvland]

Ms Sturgeon said: "I think I can safely say that we do still want Scotland to be independent.

"But at this general election - with the power of the big parties weaker than ever before - I say this to people of progressive opinion all across the UK.

"As long as Scotland remains part of the Westminster system, we will be your allies in seeking to shake up and reform that outdated and discredited system once and for all.

"Westminster needs to change. To be more responsive to the needs and demands of ordinary people, wherever they are in the UK.

"So to people in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, I make this promise. The SNP stands ready to work with you in making that positive change for all of us."

As long as they force through STV or PR, I'll be slightly less anti-SNP than I am already. But only slightly.

FPTP at Westminster is a godsend for the SNP now. Despite what they say, I don't think it'll be a top priority of theirs to change that any time soon.

[Greater-London]

FPTP at Westminster is a godsend for the SNP now. Despite what they say, I don't think it'll be a top priority of theirs to change that any time soon.

Obviously it depends on the form of PR you had but if you wanted to halt the march of the SNP PR would be the way to go. I don't know how much of the vote they will pick up nationally but I doubt it's going to be more than 5% or so; which is roughly the threshold for lots of countries that use PR.

[Conscentia]

But the Conservatives winning is fine to the guy who apparently "dislikes" social conservatism.

Because of course, Cameron's policies of on-demand abortion and banning same-sex marriage are so social conservative. Oh wait.

1. He also dislikes social liberalism, so trying to spin the Conservatives as liberals doesn't change anything.
2. Cameron has a policy of on-demand abortion?
3. Banning same-sex marriage is socially conservative. And when did he do that? I'd have thought it'd be in the news if he did that. If it was, how didn't I notice?

[Vyvland]

FPTP at Westminster is a godsend for the SNP now. Despite what they say, I don't think it'll be a top priority of theirs to change that any time soon.

Obviously it depends on the form of PR you had but if you wanted to halt the march of the SNP PR would be the way to go. I don't know how much of the vote they will pick up nationally but I doubt it's going to be more than 5% or so; which is roughly the threshold for lots of countries that use PR.

I assume they'd essentially run 4 separate elections in each constituent country of the UK, each with its own threshold. Otherwise NI would get no representation.

[Atlanticatia]

Obviously it depends on the form of PR you had but if you wanted to halt the march of the SNP PR would be the way to go. I don't know how much of the vote they will pick up nationally but I doubt it's going to be more than 5% or so; which is roughly the threshold for lots of countries that use PR.

I assume they'd essentially run 4 separate elections in each constituent country of the UK, each with its own threshold. Otherwise NI would get no representation.

That could actually be a decent idea, combined with some more devolution. It would create a good balance of powers.

[Greater-London]

I assume they'd essentially run 4 separate elections in each constituent country of the UK, each with its own threshold. Otherwise NI would get no representation.

Good point, but even so you would still probably half the representation the Nat's get in Westminster.