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Who would you vote for?

Labour
342
20%
Conservatives
346
20%
Ukip
394
23%
Greens
246
14%
Liberal Democrats
149
9%
SNP
77
5%
Plaid Cymru
32
2%
Respect
35
2%
Other (please state)
79
5%
 
Total votes : 1700

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Greater-London
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Founded: Nov 30, 2013
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Postby Greater-London » Sat May 02, 2015 2:24 pm

Arglorand wrote:They flipflop. TBH, I'm not sure what they're consistent on, except annexing land from Wales.


Flip flopping so much that there back to just an English Parliament. If your interested (I doubt you are)

The Manifesto - http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/poli ... o.html#1.1
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Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87

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Pesda
Minister
 
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Sat May 02, 2015 2:24 pm

Greater-London wrote:
Pesda wrote:Playd lol.


Lol my bad. I imagined it being a Welsh word it would be harder to spell than it sounds.

Welsh is easy :)
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
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Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
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Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Alyakia
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Founded: Jul 12, 2011
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Postby Alyakia » Sat May 02, 2015 2:27 pm

Greater-London wrote:
Pesda wrote:Playd lol.


Lol my bad. I imagined it being a Welsh word it would be harder to spell than it sounds.


llheck your privilege
pro: good
anti: bad

The UK and EU are Better Together

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Miletos
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Posts: 574
Founded: Apr 11, 2015
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Postby Miletos » Sat May 02, 2015 2:27 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Miletos wrote:
I suppose the English Democrats do exist, but I always (wrongly) had them down as just EVEL/devolution people. You're correct about them being actual independence-seeking nationalists now, though, I'll concede.

(Although they are utterly, utterly insignificant.)

They flipflop. TBH, I'm not sure what they're consistent on, except annexing land from Wales.


Somehow I can't see "Re-annex the Four Cantrefs" and "Re-establish Marcher Hegemony in the Greater Oswestry, Glamorgan and Brecon Area" catching on as election slogans.
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Arglorand
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Founded: Jan 08, 2013
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Postby Arglorand » Sat May 02, 2015 2:28 pm

Greater-London wrote:
Arglorand wrote:They flipflop. TBH, I'm not sure what they're consistent on, except annexing land from Wales.


Flip flopping so much that there back to just an English Parliament. If your interested (I doubt you are)

The Manifesto - http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/poli ... o.html#1.1

Miletos wrote:
Arglorand wrote:They flipflop. TBH, I'm not sure what they're consistent on, except annexing land from Wales.


Somehow I can't see "Re-annex the Four Cantrefs" and "Re-establish Marcher Hegemony in the Greater Oswestry, Glamorgan and Brecon Area" catching on as election slogans.


Take a gander at that link London provided here, specifically the Monmouthshire section.
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Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Miletos
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Founded: Apr 11, 2015
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Postby Miletos » Sat May 02, 2015 2:30 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Greater-London wrote:
Flip flopping so much that there back to just an English Parliament. If your interested (I doubt you are)

The Manifesto - http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/poli ... o.html#1.1

Miletos wrote:
Somehow I can't see "Re-annex the Four Cantrefs" and "Re-establish Marcher Hegemony in the Greater Oswestry, Glamorgan and Brecon Area" catching on as election slogans.


Take a gander at that link London provided here, specifically the Monmouthshire section.


Dear God. I thought I was just joking.
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Pesda
Minister
 
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Sat May 02, 2015 2:34 pm

The English Democrats have in the past put up candidates for the Welsh Assembly :lol:
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
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Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
Now a student... In England

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Ad Nihilo
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1409
Founded: Dec 18, 2007
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Postby Ad Nihilo » Sat May 02, 2015 2:34 pm

Am I the only one thinking that London could really do with being an independent city state?

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DesAnges
Post Czar
 
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Founded: Nov 02, 2011
Left-wing Utopia

Postby DesAnges » Sat May 02, 2015 2:37 pm

Pesda wrote:The English Democrats have in the past put up candidates for the Welsh Assembly :lol:

They have the best manifesto.
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Greater-London
Senator
 
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Founded: Nov 30, 2013
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Postby Greater-London » Sat May 02, 2015 2:38 pm

Ad Nihilo wrote:Am I the only one thinking that London could really do with being an independent city state?


Well it could certainly exist independently. London is always going to be a problem for the UK because it's just too big, money will always gravitate towards London because it's so much bigger and so much more prosperous.

I think independence for London would be impractical, but perhaps give the London Assembly powers akin to the one in Wales. Then have an English parliament without representatives from London.
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Economic Left/Right: 0.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.87

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Malgrave
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Founded: Mar 29, 2011
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Postby Malgrave » Sat May 02, 2015 2:41 pm

So I was in Ramsgate earlier today.

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Arglorand
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Founded: Jan 08, 2013
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Postby Arglorand » Sat May 02, 2015 2:44 pm

Ad Nihilo wrote:Am I the only one thinking that London could really do with being an independent city state?

No.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Alyakia
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 18422
Founded: Jul 12, 2011
Democratic Socialists

Postby Alyakia » Sat May 02, 2015 2:45 pm

london being independent would be great but only if we had a mutual understanding with the rest of the UK it was just so we could turn the tables on it politically
pro: good
anti: bad

The UK and EU are Better Together

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Vasileus
Spokesperson
 
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Founded: Mar 26, 2015
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Postby Vasileus » Sat May 02, 2015 2:47 pm

Aren't Britons already a minority in London? Understandable if Londoners don't really feel British, in that case
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Greater-London
Senator
 
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Postby Greater-London » Sat May 02, 2015 2:48 pm

Vasileus wrote:Aren't Britons already a minority in London? Understandable if Londoners don't really feel British, in that case


Nah. White Britons just aren't the majority in London. The statistic doesn't take into consideration black and brown English people.
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Miletos
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Founded: Apr 11, 2015
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Postby Miletos » Sat May 02, 2015 2:49 pm

Vasileus wrote:Aren't Britons already a minority in London? Understandable if Londoners don't really feel British, in that case

No, not even close.

Even if "white British" people themselves are now less than 50% of the population, they are still by far and away the largest plurality, and that's discounting all non-white British people.
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Pesda
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Founded: Jun 26, 2010
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Postby Pesda » Sat May 02, 2015 2:56 pm

Miletos wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Labour has nothing to lose in Scotland by saying that considering they aren't going to win many seats. You said my earlier post was confused, so I'll explain what I meant. Based on the expected results, forming a government without the Tories will involve some form of agreement between the SNP and Labour.


Why? Technically speaking, Miliband doesn't really have to offer the SNP anything, because they's probably vote with him on most issues while the Tories would back him up on issues like Trident.

It's also of direct benefit to both Labour and the SNP to run a Labour-minority government.

If Labour relied on the Tories for passing things like further cuts and trident renewal, nationalists would have a field day.
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Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
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Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
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Atlanticatia
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Founded: Mar 01, 2014
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Postby Atlanticatia » Sat May 02, 2015 2:56 pm

Malgrave wrote:So I was in Ramsgate earlier today.

(Image)


did you take this?
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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Sat May 02, 2015 3:01 pm

Vasileus wrote:Aren't Britons already a minority in London? Understandable if Londoners don't really feel British, in that case

There isn't really that much a correlation between feeling British and being a separatist.

There are a shitton of Scots who don't feel British at all yet don't support independence, for example. And vice versa: people who may hold their British identity as important, but support independence.
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Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
(and i blatantly stole this from Old Tyrannia)

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Alyakia
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Postby Alyakia » Sat May 02, 2015 3:04 pm

Vasileus wrote:Aren't Britons already a minority in London? Understandable if Londoners don't really feel British, in that case


it is an entirely economic thing that has nothing to do with ethnicity or race
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The UK and EU are Better Together

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Frasers
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Postby Frasers » Sat May 02, 2015 3:05 pm

Vasileus wrote:Aren't Britons already a minority in London? Understandable if Londoners don't really feel British, in that case


White people aren't the only Britons.

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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat May 02, 2015 3:07 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Ad Nihilo wrote:Am I the only one thinking that London could really do with being an independent city state?

No.


I for one have been increasingly attracted to the idea, given that it seems every nationalist party this side of Celtia wants to pillage wealth generated in London to fund carbon-neutral sheep or something like that.
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Atlanticatia
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Postby Atlanticatia » Sat May 02, 2015 3:08 pm

Frasers wrote:
Vasileus wrote:Aren't Britons already a minority in London? Understandable if Londoners don't really feel British, in that case


White people aren't the only Britons.


Nearly 2/3 of Londoners were born in the UK.
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Pesda
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Postby Pesda » Sat May 02, 2015 3:08 pm

Vote tory to get rid of porn!
St George of England wrote:
Pesda wrote:Alchohol has a funny taste
So does semen.
Professional Leaders wrote:
Neo-Sincostan wrote:Nah mate I live in Scotland. Or, as I dislike relating it to, the UK.
thats cool i like ireland
Interstellar Britannia wrote:And indeed, cavemen are fully capable of writing books. Have you heard of the Communist Manifesto perchance?
Green Ham wrote:
Pesda wrote:Making someone happy.

I advise lubricant if that's your objective. Or spit.
Kheil HaAvir wrote:i sleep with a poster above
Welsh speaking Plaid Cymru and SNP supporter.
Left -5.75 Lib -6.05
Why I voted for Plaid Cymru
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The Huskar Social Union
Khan of Spam
 
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat May 02, 2015 3:10 pm

Just throw him on ignore folks.
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