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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:49 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Quite. What gets me is that some people are defending this but it's NSG. I shouldn't be surprised.


The problem here is that the pro-business freedom crowd and light-Liberatarians will defend it.

I don't defend it so much, for one. It reeks of racism.

While I admit that a business should do what they feel is best for their organization and keeping their customers, sometimes it's a tough compromise between principle and money. And, like I read on a site the other day, you can always make more money but you can not make more principle.


It indeed reeks of racism. ''Send me a driver, white.''

And yeah, businesses are business and need to make money but damn.
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DesAnges
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Postby DesAnges » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:49 am

Gallade wrote:
DesAnges wrote:I want to get down to around 90kg, ideally. I'd still retain my strength but my pace might come back on a consistent basis. That's all my fitness goals are for, really, is playing football.

Jesus, that's still only 10kg off two of me.

Any less and I'd be underweight for my height.

I apologise, this is incorrect.
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:49 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I hate customer service in all shapes and forms. It's a job I'd never do because, 1) I suffer from social anxiety and, 2) some customers can be incredibly rude.


I was in technical support. I hated it because people thought they could get away with being racists or plain idiots.

It's when I decided that if I was going to help people I will help them on my own terms. It's much easier to get rid of a racist customer as the owner of a company than what it is as a mere employee.
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Auremena
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Postby Auremena » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:51 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Auremena wrote:Me neitger. Unfortunately it's my only choice, since it's what I have experience in. I'm doomed to it forever.
Not forever, Aure. Maybe only until you can find a different situation.
Hopefully I can get with AA. It's not a direct benefit, but they do help with career guidance and give some aid if you want to work at getting a degree or certificate.
Of course that's once you're in. If you are applying to be a mechanic per say and you don't have a certificate or the proper licences, they do nothing for you. It's that way in most of the US, I've seen. Even a mechanic's helper for airport facilities for AA wanted you to have a cecertificate and 2 years experience.
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Gallade
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Postby Gallade » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:51 am

DesAnges wrote:
Gallade wrote:Jesus, that's still only 10kg off two of me.

Any less and I'd be underweight for my height.

That inspires feeding.
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:52 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
The problem here is that the pro-business freedom crowd and light-Liberatarians will defend it.

I don't defend it so much, for one. It reeks of racism.

While I admit that a business should do what they feel is best for their organization and keeping their customers, sometimes it's a tough compromise between principle and money. And, like I read on a site the other day, you can always make more money but you can not make more principle.


It indeed reeks of racism. ''Send me a driver, white.''

And yeah, businesses are business and need to make money but damn.


But hey, the customer is always right, right? -sigh-
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:53 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:I hate customer service in all shapes and forms. It's a job I'd never do because, 1) I suffer from social anxiety and, 2) some customers can be incredibly rude.


I was in technical support. I hated it because people thought they could get away with being racists or plain idiots.

It's when I decided that if I was going to help people I will help them on my own terms. It's much easier to get rid of a racist customer as the owner of a company than what it is as a mere employee.


I heard someone I knew do that on the phone while calling Dell tech support. She was connected to a tech in India. The gentleman could speak English just fine but she went into a tizzy because she said, and I quote, ''I can't understand his lingo!''. I could understand him just fine. But the woman went on and on about not understanding and telling him that his English was awful and that we wanted a supervisor. Just regular bitchiness.

I felt ''verguenza ajena'' because the tech was actually quite nice. It's just that he had an accented English but that was hardly an issue.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:54 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It indeed reeks of racism. ''Send me a driver, white.''

And yeah, businesses are business and need to make money but damn.


But hey, the customer is always right, right? -sigh-


Yeah. Although I don't agree, but that's the saying.
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DesAnges
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Postby DesAnges » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:54 am

Gallade wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Any less and I'd be underweight for my height.

That inspires feeding.

I was wrong. I can drop down to 73ish kilos and still be healthy.

Apparently I've got to get to 98kg to be considered healthy weight. Well, I'm only 3.5 kilos off. Apparently I'll be there in a couple of weeks.
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Lordieth
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Postby Lordieth » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:55 am

DesAnges wrote:
Lordieth wrote:
If you wanted to, you could work out your daily calorie requirements, and what you should aim for; http://iifym.com/tdee-calculator/

Go for the Katch-McCardle formula if you're able to find out your body fat percentage, as it's more accurate. Our local Boots here has a machine that calculates it. Usually want to aim for 10-20% under your daily calorie needs for weight loss, depending on your goals.

Now we have something geeky apart from Dr.Who to talk about. :p

I don't really have a goal. Like I say, it just started happening. But thanks for the advice for the future.

I'm...I'm not sure about it. Sometimes it is good, other times it really annoys me.


Embrace the slight cheesiness, and you'll do just fine. Suspend your disbelief. ;)
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Postby Gidgetisms » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:56 am

FFS
A new mailbox lock cost $7 at the local home depot. But to have a locksmith in costs $105-$130. I'm just gonna do this myself
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:56 am

Lordieth wrote:
DesAnges wrote:I don't really have a goal. Like I say, it just started happening. But thanks for the advice for the future.

I'm...I'm not sure about it. Sometimes it is good, other times it really annoys me.


Embrace the slight cheesiness, and you'll do just fine. Suspend your disbelief. ;)


That sounds like an infomercial there, Lordi. :p
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:56 am

Gidgetisms wrote:FFS
A new mailbox lock cost $7 at the local home depot. But to have a locksmith in costs $105-$130. I'm just gonna do this myself


Labor costs.
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Postby Lordieth » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:57 am

DesAnges wrote:
Gallade wrote:That inspires feeding.

I was wrong. I can drop down to 73ish kilos and still be healthy.

Apparently I've got to get to 98kg to be considered healthy weight. Well, I'm only 3.5 kilos off. Apparently I'll be there in a couple of weeks.


I'm not even going by my body weight. I'm just going by body fat. Once I'm down to 10%, I can stop. I'm maintaining/gaining muscle mass, so I don't have to be concerned with being under weight at any point. Once I'm down to 10%, I can then finally get to proper bulking, and aim to pack on a good few pounds of muscle next year.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:58 am

Clean carpet seems like an invitation for my cat to puke and pass hairballs. She hadn't done this in a week. I clean last night, she goes to town. -_-
Slava Ukraini
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Cat with internet access||Supposedly heartless, & a d*ck.||Is maith an t-earra an tsíocháin.||No TGs
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Postby Lordieth » Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:59 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Lordieth wrote:
Embrace the slight cheesiness, and you'll do just fine. Suspend your disbelief. ;)


That sounds like an infomercial there, Lordi. :p


All yours for twelve easy instalments of $29.99. But wait, there's more! Buy now, and get this free thing you'll never need. Valued at whatever we say, because it's our crappy product!
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:00 am

Lordieth wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
That sounds like an infomercial there, Lordi. :p


All yours for twelve easy instalments of $29.99. But wait, there's more! Buy now, and get this free thing you'll never need. Valued at whatever we say, because it's our crappy product!


You forgot to add the shipping and handling. Which is $14.95. :p
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:00 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Clean carpet seems like an invitation for my cat to puke and pass hairballs. She hadn't done this in a week. I clean last night, she goes to town. -_-


Cats: gotta love em.

With a side of fava beans and a nice bottle of chianti.
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Soldati Senza Confini
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:00 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I was in technical support. I hated it because people thought they could get away with being racists or plain idiots.

It's when I decided that if I was going to help people I will help them on my own terms. It's much easier to get rid of a racist customer as the owner of a company than what it is as a mere employee.


I heard someone I knew do that on the phone while calling Dell tech support. She was connected to a tech in India. The gentleman could speak English just fine but she went into a tizzy because she said, and I quote, ''I can't understand his lingo!''. I could understand him just fine. But the woman went on and on about not understanding and telling him that his English was awful and that we wanted a supervisor. Just regular bitchiness.

I felt ''verguenza ajena'' because the tech was actually quite nice. It's just that he had an accented English but that was hardly an issue.


You can tell as a tech support person (who is the one who actually tends calls when people get frustrated with their equipment) here in the U.S. the implied racism that hasn't left the mind of people yet.

I've had people on the phone that, while not explicitly racist, they tend to be quite insufferable because of their quips. I had someone who was explicitly racist and I slammed the phone on him in anger. The next call someone else got was him in the same team I was :lol2:
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby DesAnges » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:00 am

Lordieth wrote:
DesAnges wrote:I was wrong. I can drop down to 73ish kilos and still be healthy.

Apparently I've got to get to 98kg to be considered healthy weight. Well, I'm only 3.5 kilos off. Apparently I'll be there in a couple of weeks.


I'm not even going by my body weight. I'm just going by body fat. Once I'm down to 10%, I can stop. I'm maintaining/gaining muscle mass, so I don't have to be concerned with being under weight at any point. Once I'm down to 10%, I can then finally get to proper bulking, and aim to pack on a good few pounds of muscle next year.

I'll do one, then tuther. Anything to make me feel better.

Lordieth wrote:
DesAnges wrote:I don't really have a goal. Like I say, it just started happening. But thanks for the advice for the future.

I'm...I'm not sure about it. Sometimes it is good, other times it really annoys me.


Embrace the slight cheesiness, and you'll do just fine. Suspend your disbelief. ;)

It's not so much about that, it's other things. Like, why can no henchman in Starling City shoot straight from 5 feet away?
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:01 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Clean carpet seems like an invitation for my cat to puke and pass hairballs. She hadn't done this in a week. I clean last night, she goes to town. -_-


Cats: gotta love em.

With a side of fava beans and a nice bottle of chianti.


Roasted, grilled or baked? :p

Honestly, I love her. She's my furbaby, but damn... As soon as I vacuum, she just crowns it all with puke.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:03 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Cats: gotta love em.

With a side of fava beans and a nice bottle of chianti.


Roasted, grilled or baked? :p

Honestly, I love her. She's my furbaby, but damn... As soon as I vacuum, she just crowns it all with puke.


Roasted for preference. :twisted:

I agree though. Like all kids, they can be annoying at times, but well worth it.
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Postby Lordieth » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:03 am

DesAnges wrote:
Lordieth wrote:
I'm not even going by my body weight. I'm just going by body fat. Once I'm down to 10%, I can stop. I'm maintaining/gaining muscle mass, so I don't have to be concerned with being under weight at any point. Once I'm down to 10%, I can then finally get to proper bulking, and aim to pack on a good few pounds of muscle next year.

I'll do one, then tuther. Anything to make me feel better.

Lordieth wrote:
Embrace the slight cheesiness, and you'll do just fine. Suspend your disbelief. ;)

It's not so much about that, it's other things. Like, why can no henchman in Starling City shoot straight from 5 feet away?


If you're going to question stuff like that in TV shows, you'll never fully enjoy them. These are more like action movie tropes than specific problems with the show.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:03 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I heard someone I knew do that on the phone while calling Dell tech support. She was connected to a tech in India. The gentleman could speak English just fine but she went into a tizzy because she said, and I quote, ''I can't understand his lingo!''. I could understand him just fine. But the woman went on and on about not understanding and telling him that his English was awful and that we wanted a supervisor. Just regular bitchiness.

I felt ''verguenza ajena'' because the tech was actually quite nice. It's just that he had an accented English but that was hardly an issue.


You can tell as a tech support person (who is the one who actually tends calls when people get frustrated with their equipment) here in the U.S. the implied racism that hasn't left the mind of people yet.

I've had people on the phone that, while not explicitly racist, they tend to be quite insufferable because of their quips. I had someone who was explicitly racist and I slammed the phone on him in anger. The next call someone else got was him in the same team I was :lol2:


Seriously. Is there any necessity to be that much of an asshat to the person that is trying to help you resolve your issues? I think not. Hence why I can't work on tech support or customer service of any kind. I'd flipped if I had to listen to racist comments over the phone, directed at me or otherwise.
Slava Ukraini
Also: THERNSY!!
Your story isn't over;֍Help save transgender people's lives֍Help for feral cats
Cat with internet access||Supposedly heartless, & a d*ck.||Is maith an t-earra an tsíocháin.||No TGs
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Postby Gallade » Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:04 am

DesAnges wrote:
Gallade wrote:That inspires feeding.

I was wrong. I can drop down to 73ish kilos and still be healthy.

Apparently I've got to get to 98kg to be considered healthy weight. Well, I'm only 3.5 kilos off. Apparently I'll be there in a couple of weeks.

According to this site I'm on I'm 1.9kg shy of my ideal weight. Hrm, I wonder if that accounts for muscle mass.
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