Which Religion is more harmful? Islam or Christianity?

[Creepoc Infinite]

I saw a topic get brought up On my "does god exist" thread, so I decided to make another one exploring this topic. Personally I think Christianity is more harmful.
It is more widespread and one of the main problems I see is that Christianity is built partly around the desire to go to heaven after Jesus comes back and destroys the world.
They look forward to Armageddon.

Although they aren't as violent as Muslims, many Christians tend to be just as bigoted as Muslims. Towards, gays, atheists, even blacks still.
They are responsible for many world atrocities, although Islam is as well, and I'm sure Hindus and Zoroastrians were too, but the two big ones seem to have the most bloody history.

What do you guys think?

[Insaeldor]

They can both be pretty shitty to be honest. As far as in a modern context is say Islam simply because we don't see the amount of violent fundamentalism as we do with Christianity (not to say it doesn't exist it definitely exist just not to the extent of its Islamic brother) both religions have the potential to be envoys of human hatred and humanities general violent nature and it has in the past but as of right now "Islamic" fundamentalism is the more prevalent and dangerous but who to say this won't change in the future and maybe at some point the tables will be turned.

[Creepoc Infinite]

They can both be pretty shitty to be honest. As far as in a modern context is say Islam simply because we don't see the amount of violent fundamentalism as we do with Christianity (not to say it doesn't exist it definitely exist just not to the extent of its Islamic brother) both religions have the potential to be envoys of human hatred and humanities general violent nature and it has in the past but as of right now "Islamic" fundamentalism is the more prevalent and dangerous but who to say this won't change in the future and maybe at some point the tables will be turned.

Muslims in the Middle East just have nothing better to do.
Christianity has proven to cause more long term problems.
Such as the Dark Ages, which set us back a long time, we could've been colonizing space, Star Trek style by now

[Seaxeland]

No.

[Valerion]

All religions are pretty crappy, Religion is a private thing, and should stay that way, if someone believes in a supernatural power of any kind, and they feel like a better person for it, that's good for them, but to have it as an organized entity can only make things worse.

[Creepoc Infinite]

No.

No what?

[Yarosluv]

Jews.
jk

[Creepoc Infinite]

All religions are pretty crappy, except for maybe Buddhism, considering the pacifism and all, but still. Religion is a private thing, and should stay that way, if someone believes in a supernatural power of any kind, and they feel like a better person for it, that's good for them, but to have it as an organized entity can only make things worse.

I mostly agree.
But Buddhism is technically not a religion.
Because you are not required to believe in some god to be one. Buddhists can be atheists, and technically, Buddhism is an atheistic religion.

As for religious beliefs, people can believe what they want so long as it does not influence money, politics, society, foreign policy, and social media, or legislation.

[Insaeldor]

They can both be pretty shitty to be honest. As far as in a modern context is say Islam simply because we don't see the amount of violent fundamentalism as we do with Christianity (not to say it doesn't exist it definitely exist just not to the extent of its Islamic brother) both religions have the potential to be envoys of human hatred and humanities general violent nature and it has in the past but as of right now "Islamic" fundamentalism is the more prevalent and dangerous but who to say this won't change in the future and maybe at some point the tables will be turned.

Muslims in the Middle East just have nothing better to do.
Christianity has proven to cause more long term problems.
Such as the Dark Ages, which set us back a long time, we could've been colonizing space, Star Trek style by now

I understand and I addressed that both religions can act as vectors for human bigotry. And while Islam gave us many great things during its golden age I don't think we can say Christianity is completly backwards and has held society back just as we can not say the same for Islam. But in its modern forum Islam or rather people who hold a fundamentalist and radical view of Islam are no better than the Christians of the Middle Ages and are quit frankly doing the same thing and acting in the same way the Christians of the Middle Ages did and I can definitely see this trend going on for years to come.

We've seen the ugly heads of fundamentalism in regards to these religions and as such I can not say one is better or worse then the other but can only say that they are equal in both their pros and cons seeing as at their skeletal level they are nearly identical.

[Wintony]

I think any conversation on this topic is going to be somewhat skewed. I'll admit I don't study world religion but I think both Islam and Christianity preach peace and goodwill towards men. its just people who abuse the system to gain power who are violent, not the religion itself.

[Wintony]

I think any conversation on this topic is going to be somewhat skewed. I'll admit I don't study world religion but I think both Islam and Christianity preach peace and goodwill towards men. its just people who abuse the system to gain power who are violent, not the religion itself.

[Valerion]

All religions are pretty crappy, except for maybe Buddhism, considering the pacifism and all, but still. Religion is a private thing, and should stay that way, if someone believes in a supernatural power of any kind, and they feel like a better person for it, that's good for them, but to have it as an organized entity can only make things worse.

I mostly agree.
But Buddhism is technically not a religion.
Because you are not required to believe in some god to be one. Buddhists can be atheists, and technically, Buddhism is an atheistic religion.

As for religious beliefs, people can believe what they want so long as it does not influence money, politics, society, foreign policy, and social media, or legislation.

I've always wondered whether Buddhism is a religion or a philosophy, most people i ask always say it's a religion, so i considered it as such.

[Insaeldor]

I think any conversation on this topic is going to be somewhat skewed. I'll admit I don't study world religion but I think both Islam and Christianity preach peace and goodwill towards men. its just people who abuse the system to gain power who are violent, not the religion itself.

good show mate.

[Scepez]

You're still stuck in the past.
No church ever goes on military and/or genocide crusades anymore.
In-fact, most churches that I know of, hand out free food to those who are in need.
And as for the extremists, both have the same annoyance level, except some muslims tend to get explosive.

[Fezkovia]

They're equal in amounts of damaged caused, but the difference is that the Crusades were 1000 years ago and radical Christians rarely commit acts of terrorism. Right now radical Islamism has proven to be a threat. So I'd say it varies. Neither religion is harmful in itself, it's the people that misinterpret it.

[Infected Mushroom]

Islam because if it weren't for radical Islam, there would be no 9/11 and Middle Eastern terrorist attacks...

[The United Kingdoms of Austinarya]

I saw a topic get brought up On my "does god exist" thread, so I decided to make another one exploring this topic. Personally I think Christianity is more harmful.
It is more widespread and one of the main problems I see is that Christianity is built partly around the desire to go to heaven after Jesus comes back and destroys the world.
They look forward to Armageddon.

Although they aren't as violent as Muslims, many Christians tend to be just as bigoted as Muslims. Towards, gays, atheists, even blacks still.
They are responsible for many world atrocities, although Islam is as well, and I'm sure Hindus and Zoroastrians were too, but the two big ones seem to have the most bloody history.

What do you guys think?

If you mean the KKK when talking about racism in Christianity then remember the fact that they hate Jews even though Jesus was the king of the Jews and the fact that they support Hitler even though Hitler was Neo Pagan/Odinist and supported Islam and killed Christians in the holocaust.

Muslims are bigoted to gays too, even more so than us Christians, whereas we want to ban gay marriage and gay adoption they want to behead them, they are also very Anti Semitic, just compare the Qu'ran to Mein Kampf or the newpapers in Nazi Germany to that of Saudi Arabia both show Jews as greedy and corrupt. Islam also has no respect for human rights, it has no respect for free speech, forces women to wear burkhas and the quran gives permission to a man to beat or rape his wife or to molest children just like the prophet Muhammad did, Muhammad was a warlord and pedophile yet they consider him the perfect man? It's disgusting, you get Muslims who believe this neo nazi stuff about holocaust denial.

[Insaeldor]

I mostly agree.
But Buddhism is technically not a religion.
Because you are not required to believe in some god to be one. Buddhists can be atheists, and technically, Buddhism is an atheistic religion.

As for religious beliefs, people can believe what they want so long as it does not influence money, politics, society, foreign policy, and social media, or legislation.

I've always wondered whether Buddhism is a religion or a philosophy, most people i ask always say it's a religion, so i considered it as such.

It's very religious in its practice and methodology which is why many people consider it a religion and is generally touted as a non-theistic religion (similar to animism and shamanism) but it really boils down to the participants view and practice which make pinpointing what it truly is a hard thing to do.

[Cetacea]

They are sects of the same Patriarchal Religion and as social constructs they are neutral

unfortunately the people who follow those religions can be quite horrible, especially when they hold fundamentalist views. It is poverty and oppression (real or perceived) that breeds fundamentalism

[Achidyemay]

They can both be pretty shitty to be honest. As far as in a modern context is say Islam simply because we don't see the amount of violent fundamentalism as we do with Christianity (not to say it doesn't exist it definitely exist just not to the extent of its Islamic brother) both religions have the potential to be envoys of human hatred and humanities general violent nature and it has in the past but as of right now "Islamic" fundamentalism is the more prevalent and dangerous but who to say this won't change in the future and maybe at some point the tables will be turned.

Muslims in the Middle East just have nothing better to do.
Christianity has proven to cause more long term problems.
Such as the Dark Ages, which set us back a long time, we could've been colonizing space, Star Trek style by now

I have to disagree with that, during the dark ages the church was the only preserver of historical documents (or at least the most major one) and basically literacy. I'm not a huge expert on Islam, but Catholicism isn't really racist (how can you be when you have members from almost every race) or sexist anymore, and are actually pretty much fine with gays (even though we still cannot allow them to be married, because it kind of defies the definition of marriage. Personally, I'm for allowing a political marriage for votes and taxes, etc.) At least according to my church. It's all Back-country Protestants and the middle ages (which were heavily dramatized) that give us a bad rap.


Trust me, my country is a religious satire

[Sankji]

Islam is currently more harmful because people take it to serious. Christianity is no better though, just look at the Dark Ages.

[Blakullar]

Pastafarianism is surely the most dangerous religion of them all. /nod

[Margno]

Hahahahahahahaha

[Conserative Morality]

Islam is situated in more troublesome areas, so it's more trouble. Christianity is split about half and half, so it's only half as troublesome.

If we're talking about the teachings of each religion, then I'd say Islam. It's much harder to get around the literal word of God in the Quran, while Christians aren't required to hold to literalism in their Bible.

[Valerion]

Islam because if it weren't for radical Islam, there would be no 9/11 and Middle Eastern terrorist attacks...

And if it weren't for radical catholicism, Millions of people back in the dark ages all the way into the early rennaissance, wouldn't have been killed for being heretics, All religion is quite bad, Your just picking the shiniest of a lot of turds.