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How would you prefer the 114th congress be set up? How will it be?

GOP House/GOP Senate
107
32%
GOP House/ Dem Senate (current)
25
8%
Dem House/ Dem Senate
148
45%
Dem House/ GOP Senate
8
2%
Other?
42
13%
 
Total votes : 330

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Postby Geilinor » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:02 pm

Rhodisia wrote:
Geilinor wrote:How is he undermining American sovereignty? You're acting like he sold the country back to the British.

Pretty much, yeah. Subverting Congress and using the UN to regulate the US.

Now I'm scared. Do you know how treaties in the US get ratified?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:02 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Rhodisia wrote:Agreed. Obama is literally Hitler.

He is more like Lenin or Trotsky.

These are literally the two stupidest posts I've read all week, and it's only 10 PM Monday.
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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:03 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Rhodisia wrote:Agreed. Obama is literally Hitler.

He is more like Lenin or Trotsky.

So, welcome everyone, to the Twilight Zone. Aka Greater Weseltons complete fail of characterizing Obama by throwing reality out the window.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:03 pm

ODMS Babel wrote:How could the Republicans possible win anything at this point? They have completely destroyed their credibility and shown themselves to be deluded and out-of-touch with reality in the past few years.

Of course, I am quite aware that some Americans will still support the Republicans. I just cannot fathom why.

Jesus.

Black people.

Dirty immigrants.

Also some folks who don't like to listen to economists.
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Postby Arumdaum » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:04 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Rhodisia wrote:Agreed. Obama is literally Hitler.

He is more like Lenin or Trotsky.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:04 pm

I would prefer if every senator and representative lost his job. Congress should be dissolved.
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Postby Arlenton » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:05 pm

ODMS Babel wrote:How could the Republicans possible win anything at this point? They have completely destroyed their credibility and shown themselves to be deluded and out-of-touch with reality in the past few years.

Of course, I am quite aware that some Americans will still support the Republicans. I just cannot fathom why.

Anything's possible when your opponents main strategy consists of pointing fingers and trying to convince people Obamacare is working great!

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:05 pm

Rhodisia wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:It is looking good for traditional American values.

Agreed. Obama is literally Hitler.


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Postby Williamson » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:06 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
The balkens wrote:
What if i told you that he is not like them at all.

I have my own analysis.

so plese explain how they are alike at all.

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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:07 pm

Arlenton wrote:
ODMS Babel wrote:How could the Republicans possible win anything at this point? They have completely destroyed their credibility and shown themselves to be deluded and out-of-touch with reality in the past few years.

Of course, I am quite aware that some Americans will still support the Republicans. I just cannot fathom why.

Anything's possible when your opponents main strategy consists of pointing fingers and trying to convince people Obamacare is working great!

Yes, facts are usually great for that, good thing that they show that it has worked.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:07 pm

Williamson wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:I have my own analysis.

so plese explain how they are alike at all.

Obama is leftist like those two people. He supports abortion and homosexuality like Lenin.
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Postby ODMS Babel » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:07 pm

Arlenton wrote:
ODMS Babel wrote:How could the Republicans possible win anything at this point? They have completely destroyed their credibility and shown themselves to be deluded and out-of-touch with reality in the past few years.

Of course, I am quite aware that some Americans will still support the Republicans. I just cannot fathom why.

Anything's possible when your opponents main strategy consists of pointing fingers and trying to convince people Obamacare is working great!

The Democrats could attempt to claim the Soviet Union was a bastion of the free market and they would still be the more rational of the two American parties.
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Postby The balkens » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:08 pm

Williamson wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:I have my own analysis.

so plese explain how they are alike at all.


They are against god. *nods*

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:08 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Williamson wrote:so plese explain how they are alike at all.

Obama is leftist like those two people. He supports abortion and homosexuality like Lenin.

Can someone please start hitting me in the face with a shovel? I need massive and immediate brain damage to keep this idiocy from entering my long-term memory.
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Postby Arlenton » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:09 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Williamson wrote:so plese explain how they are alike at all.

Obama is leftist like those two people. He supports abortion and homosexuality like Lenin.

Obama is a leftist but comparing him to communists doesn't make any sense...

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Postby Olerand » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:09 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:I should think that if it was American influence alone that did that, we would've destroyed the British Left (Which has always been a bit COMMIE by our standards) back in the 50s when we had British influence by the balls and essentially were running their international policy for them. The fact of the matter is that the US went through a conservative backlash in the 80s, and closely aligned countries ended up with the same. We're suffering from aftershocks; not continuing symptoms of an underlying disease.
I'll sooner vote FN than see us become like the UK.

Ouch.

Not that I actually blame you there. US/UK relations are ridiculously imbalanced.

America has controlled Britain's foreign policy post-WWII all the way to the present, but British domestic policy was very different. Until the 80s.
America's economic and political "center" have definitely moved to the right since the rise of Reagan. And any closer integration between us and you will do the same to our "center". To conform to the new economic rules, what was once "right" will become "center", and what was once "ultra-liberalism" will become "right". Left will simply fall off the chart.
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I saw some awful shit when I was in America, and everybody acted like it was normal. Awful. I just wouldn't want that for my country.

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The balkens wrote:
What if i told you that he is not like them at all.

I have my own analysis.

I'm sure you do.

It's astounding how one person can be Nazi, Communist, Atheist, Muslim, Kenyan, and the Anti-Christ all at the same time.
You'd think he'd get tired.
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Postby The balkens » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:09 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:Obama is leftist like those two people. He supports abortion and homosexuality like Lenin.

Can someone please start hitting me in the face with a shovel? I need massive and immediate brain damage to keep this idiocy from entering my long-term memory.


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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:10 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Williamson wrote:so plese explain how they are alike at all.

Obama is leftist like those two people. He supports abortion and homosexuality like Lenin.

Lenin rolled right through the glass of his case. Being pro-choice and for LGBT rights is not what made Lenin a leftist. In fact, Obama is heavily center right.
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Postby Olerand » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:10 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:Obama is leftist like those two people. He supports abortion and homosexuality like Lenin.

Obama is a leftist but comparing him to communists doesn't make any sense...

He most certainly is not.
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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:10 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:Obama is leftist like those two people. He supports abortion and homosexuality like Lenin.

Obama is a leftist but comparing him to communists doesn't make any sense...

Obama isn't left, he's heavily center right.
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Postby ODMS Babel » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:11 pm

Olerand wrote:It's astounding how one person can be Nazi, Communist, Atheist, Muslim, Kenyan, and the Anti-Christ all at the same time.
You'd think he'd get tired.


Obama is one hell of a multitasker.
Which is, of course, why he should be appointed God-Emperor of the United States. I mean, he has to be capable of magic to be able to do all that while also spreading Ebola and selling the American people to China.
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Postby Arlenton » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:12 pm

Stormwind-City wrote:
Arlenton wrote:Obama is a leftist but comparing him to communists doesn't make any sense...

Obama isn't left, he's heavily center right.

But by American standards that is left wing.

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Postby Stormwind-City » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:13 pm

Arlenton wrote:
Stormwind-City wrote:Obama isn't left, he's heavily center right.

But by American standards that is left wing.

By the standered set by the parties in power, most people who vote Democrat are most likely further left than Obama ever was.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:14 pm

Rhodisia wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:It is looking good for traditional American values.

Agreed. Obama is literally Hitler.


Yeah, just look at all those deathcamps we have! And look at all the people who've been lined up against the wall and shot for daring oppose Der Fuhrer! And all that nice Lebensraum we seized by invading our neighbors! :roll:

Greater Weselton wrote:
The balkens wrote:
What if i told you that he is not like them at all.

I have my own analysis.


Which is wrong. You don't know the meaning of the word "socialism" if you think Obama's in any way a socialist. I should know. I'm an actual socialist. Really, the closest we've had to a socialist president was FDR, but nobody's ever disrespected him quite the same way they are Obama. Gee, it makes me wonder what makes Obama different from literally every other president in history... :roll:

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And replaced with...?

Greater Weselton wrote:
Williamson wrote:so plese explain how they are alike at all.

Obama is leftist like those two people. He supports abortion and homosexuality like Lenin.


:lol2:

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Postby Dragomerian Islands » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:15 pm

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Harry Reid has been waxing optimistic when asked about the future of Democrats’ hold on the U.S. Senate. In an interview with a local television station last week, the Senate majority leader said it is unlikely that Republicans will gain the six seats necessary to gain control of the upper chamber.

“It'd be very, very hard for them to do that,” he said.

Netting six Senate seats is a challenge, especially since part of that equation would require Republicans to retain their own competitive seats in places like Georgia and Kentucky. But Republicans believe that the stars, moons, and planets are all aligning for just such a changing tide this November.

For one thing, the president's party has historically struggled in the officeholder’s sixth year. What’s more, Democrats have to defend 21 of the 36 seats up for re-election this time, and of the nine most competitive races, seven are currently held by Democrats. Indeed, the top challenge for the party this cycle is defending seats in several states President Obama lost in 2012.

On the other hand, Republicans historically have a difficult time knocking off Democratic incumbents. And this cycle, several vulnerable Democrats have the advantage of family legacies that they hope will shield them against the president’s unpopularity and the changing politics of their states. Indeed, Democratic incumbents have shown resiliency in the polls so far.

But that advantage may be fleeting. While no Republican challenger is leading an incumbent by a significant margin, no Democratic incumbent in a difficult race is polling above 50 percent -- a threshold that has come to signal vulnerability. Republicans view this trend as a sign of their strength heading into Labor Day weekend, after which the campaigns traditionally ramp up and constituents start to pay closer attention to the candidates.

The momentum appears to be on the Republicans’ side, as Obama’s approval rating is low, dissatisfaction with Washington is high, incumbents are showing signs of weakness, and the midterm dynamics and climate are favorable.

Three Democratic-held states already appear to be in the Republicans’ column: Montana, South Dakota, and West Virginia. If the GOP can hang on to Georgia and Kentucky, they would need to pick up just three more to win the majority. And there are a few different pathways that get them there.

One of the most recent examples came in Alaska last week, when Republicans nominated establishment-favored Dan Sullivan to take on Democratic Sen. Mark Begich. The incumbent is leading by 4.6 percentage points in the RCP average, but analysts expect the race to tighten as Sullivan’s general election campaign revs up.

In Colorado, Republican Rep. Cory Gardner cleared what could have been a troublesome GOP field, and is now just 2.5 percentage points behind Democratic Sen. Mark Udall despite months of negative ads targeting him. The Colorado race figures to be one of the closest in the country, and will keep both Republicans and Democrats on their toes up through election night. Though the state isn’t a must-win for Republicans’ hopes of claiming the majority, it will serve as an important race for the party in both the midterm and the presidential contest two years from now. President Obama won there in 2008 and 2012, and a GOP victory in 2014 could have an impact on 2016.


Republicans’ best hopes rest in states Mitt Romney won in 2012: Arkansas, North Carolina, Alaska and Louisiana.

Races in the first two are virtually tied. In Louisiana, Mary Landrieu leads the Republican field by several points, but she falls behind Republican Rep. Bill Cassidy by one point in December runoff matchups (the likely scenario if no one clears the 50 percent mark on Nov. 4). Both Landrieu and Mark Pryor in Arkansas have long-standing, well-respected legacies in their states (both have featured their popular fathers in ads), and could well hold their ground despite the unfavorable climate. Nonetheless, they still remain among the most vulnerable senators, and their Republican opponents are financially competitive.

"For the last five months, Democrats have been saying that their ‘legacy candidates’ provide an advantage, but the data shows it’s irrelevant,” said Brad Dayspring, the spokesman for the NRSC. “If it were true, Landrieu, Begich, Udall, and Pryor would be at or above 50 percent.”

Although Mitch McConnell doesn’t come from a famous Kentucky political family, it could be argued that under that logic, he is also vulnerable. The RCP average shows him leading Alison Lundergan Grimes by just three percentage points, with 47.6 percent of the support. But Republicans could win red state seats in Kentucky and Georgia and still fail to claim the majority. Their chances increase, however, if they make gains in Colorado, or Iowa, or North Carolina or even Michigan. While New Hampshire might be more of a long shot for Republicans compared to other states, a narrowing of that race over the next several weeks could signal trouble for Democrats elsewhere, including in normally dependable Democratic strongholds of Oregon and Minnesota. Democrat Jeanne Shaheen began airing her first negative ad in the Granite State this week.

Lawmakers return from recess in September, when those issues might play out more vividly.

Democrats, meanwhile, will likely reprise legislation on the minimum wage and pay equity, designed to turn out supporters on Nov. 4. Republicans don’t seem to be worried about those issues, and argue that there is little major legislation or an overarching issue to which Democratic incumbents can cling.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2014/08/28/why_republicans_will_take_the_senate_123788.html#ixzz3G4oGXjWj

Happy Days are here again. According to most polling organizations, the GOP is favored to win control of the Senate by a healthy margin. Although this might only last 2 years, 2016 is likely to shake up both chambers, still....The GOP is going to win. The users of NS leans to the left....a lot....sometimes bordering on the socialistic. So I can't imagine how this must feel for the more liberal American users, knowing that any hopes you might have had for the congress....gone *poof*. I'm not going to try to be neutral, I'm happy the GOP is going to win. I'm not a conservative, but I feel like we'd all be better off with the GOP controlling both houses. Maybe, just maybe....actual legislation will be passed. Like job saving, bank busting, tax cutting legislation. I'm looking forward to the next 2 years. But I also acknowledge this will be bad on some fronts. Alternative energy, civil liberties and civil rights will probably suffer, along with entitlement programs....but that's just the way it is.
I'm predicting GOP 52/ Dem 48

Side note, I can't stand Mitch McConnell and I wish he was gone from the Senate. He can't be the senate leader. At the same time, after watching the Kentucky debates, Grimes is terrible. Her fake politician answers, the lame ads, the empty political rhetoric. She might be worse than Mitch McConnell, I want him gone...but I don't want her either. Anybody else?

But what does NSG think? Am I wrong, will the Democrats hold on to the senate? Is a GOP majority a bad thing? What will a GOP Majority lead too? Will Obama-care be repealed? Could Obama be impeached then convicted? If the GOP can win both chambers, what does that mean for 2016? President Paul or President Christie or perhaps.....President Bush? OPINIONS! OPINIONS!

I am absolutely sure that you would be using a biased source.

Due to the previous elections and how the GOP distances itself from any race that is not white (I would list them but that list would be too long), the GOP crippled itself. The last presidential election was lost for them because they tried a candidate that was too conservative. If they continue down their path, they will not have any majorities or presidential seats.
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