Australia General Discussion Thread

[Costa Fierro]

Two words for Abbott: GET. REKT.

Also, sort your shit out Australia. Four Prime Ministers in eight years is not a good thing.

[The Republic of Pantalleria]

Two words for Abbott: GET. REKT.

Also, sort your shit out Australia. Four Prime Ministers in eight years is not a good thing.

Sigh.... This is sure to have "positive" effect on the economy... (Sarcasm)

[Vanquaria]

in the old days where ministers stayed loyal and politicians worried about the well being of the nation instead of their own personal ambitions and egos... 21st century for the win

[Mostrov]

Disappointed, I really don't trust Turnbull. Say what you like about Abbott but his policies were easily predictable and straight forward and he wasn't really capable of tricking the electorate. I think we will merely see the worst policies merely hidden behind curtains while he makes us concentrate on the populist issues that he wants us too see. Its worth noting that he has already been toppled once as leader of the party, so he can't really change too many policies that I think people here are imagining that he might do.

[New Rogernomics]

Yay! Abbott was dumped, and Australia is saved, for now.

[Vanquaria]

Yay! Abbott was dumped, and Australia is saved, for now.

U so sure bout that? I don't think Turnball can do any better either to be honest but well see.

[Registug]

RIP tone zone

all hail the turnbull pen



when can we have a centrist party? :(



Been playing with the idea of making it my ambition to start one, but I know that would never happen haha. Still though, it sucks shit agreeing with points from both side, then getting called a fence sitter in the meantime. I'm centre left, but I still feel like the current ALP is just not doing anything good in the execution. And can anyone tell me what Labor has been doing in Queensland since the election? I don't see any big changes, hell I haven't heard a single fucking thing since. Does that mean they're maintaining the status quo?

[Keyboard Warriors]

Two words for Abbott: GET. REKT.

Also, sort your shit out Australia. Four Prime Ministers in eight years is not a good thing.

I'd rather swap prime ministers out who clearly aren't doing a good enough job rather than pretending that a terrible but "stable" government (at least one on the surface anyway) is adequate.

[Geanna]

Two words for Abbott: GET. REKT.

Also, sort your shit out Australia. Four Prime Ministers in eight years is not a good thing.

Think it's time for a dissolution but meh, the Queen of the South is out.

[Marcurix]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34245005

Australia is to have a new prime minister after Tony Abbott was ousted as leader of the centre-right Liberal Party by Malcolm Turnbull.

In the dramatic late night party leadership ballot, Mr Abbott, who had been plagued by poor opinion polls, received 44 votes to Mr Turnbull's 54.

Mr Turnbull said he assumed that parliament would serve its full term, implying no snap general election.

The new leader will be Australia's fourth prime minister since 2013.

Ahead of the vote, Mr Turnbull had said if Mr Abbott remained as leader, the coalition government would lose the next election, which is likely to take place next year.

He said he had not taken the decision to launch a leadership challenge lightly, but that it was "clear enough that the government is not successful in providing the economic leadership that we need".

Ms Bishop had supported his bid to become party leader.

The last Australian prime minister to serve a full term was John Howard, who left power in 2007.

Labor Prime Minister Julia Gillard was ousted by rival Kevin Rudd in a leadership vote in June 2013 - months before a general election won by Tony Abbott's Liberal Party and its coalition partners the National Party.

Ms Gillard herself had ousted Mr Rudd as prime minister in 2010.

Mr Turnbull had previously been leader of the Liberals while in opposition, but was ousted by Mr Abbott in 2009.

Mr Abbott survived a leadership challenge in February, but his government has consistently been behind the opposition Labor Party in opinion polls.

So, if you blinked you missed it-Tony Abbot has been replaced as Australian PM.

I myself was rather shocked about the speed of which he was deposed, only having heard of the potential for a vote yesterday. I know Abbot wasn't a very popular PM, but i cant stay i know enough of the volatile nature of current Australian politics to say whether this is a good thing or not. Although, as the article points out, Abbots leadership never seemed very firm given he was also challenged in February.

What say ye NSG? Is this a good or a bad thing for Australia? Will this improve the coalition government's chances of reelection? Do you expect to see any change in government policy? Should those pesky Kangaroos just launch the coup d'etat and be done with it?

Discuss.

[Shrillland]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34245005

Australia is to have a new prime minister after Tony Abbott was ousted as leader of the centre-right Liberal Party by Malcolm Turnbull.

In the dramatic late night party leadership ballot, Mr Abbott, who had been plagued by poor opinion polls, received 44 votes to Mr Turnbull's 54.

Mr Turnbull said he assumed that parliament would serve its full term, implying no snap general election.

The new leader will be Australia's fourth prime minister since 2013.

Ahead of the vote, Mr Turnbull had said if Mr Abbott remained as leader, the coalition government would lose the next election, which is likely to take place next year.

He said he had not taken the decision to launch a leadership challenge lightly, but that it was "clear enough that the government is not successful in providing the economic leadership that we need".

Ms Bishop had supported his bid to become party leader.

The last Australian prime minister to serve a full term was John Howard, who left power in 2007.

Labor Prime Minister Julia Gillard was ousted by rival Kevin Rudd in a leadership vote in June 2013 - months before a general election won by Tony Abbott's Liberal Party and its coalition partners the National Party.

Ms Gillard herself had ousted Mr Rudd as prime minister in 2010.

Mr Turnbull had previously been leader of the Liberals while in opposition, but was ousted by Mr Abbott in 2009.

Mr Abbott survived a leadership challenge in February, but his government has consistently been behind the opposition Labor Party in opinion polls.

So, if you blinked you missed it-Tony Abbot has been replaced as Australian PM.

I myself was rather shocked about the speed of which he was deposed, only having heard of the potential for a vote yesterday. I know Abbot wasn't a very popular PM, but i cant stay i know enough of the volatile nature of current Australian politics to say whether this is a good thing or not. Although, as the article points out, Abbots leadership never seemed very firm given he was also challenged in February.

What say ye NSG? Is this a good or a bad thing for Australia? Will this improve the coalition government's chances of reelection? Do you expect to see any change in government policy? Should those pesky Kangaroos just launch the coup d'etat and be done with it?

Discuss.

I don't expect to see too much of a change in the Coalition's policies myself, but with the election less than a year away, Turnbull will need to get things done if he wants to stay in power.

[Geilinor]

Wow. Abbott's out even faster than Rudd. I hope Turnbull is the new prime minister.

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

Turnbull can't possibly be worse than Abbott.

[Genivaria]

Damn I thought you were talking about Greg Abbot.

[Dazchan]

By ten votes. A pretty close margin.

Considering that there were only 98 people voting, not all that close.

[Pope Joan]

It's a shame to judge national leaders according to the vagaries of the global economy, which they cannot easily control.

That said, I hope the same result occurs in Canada.

[Eol Sha]

I saw this on Wikipedia and skimmed through their Leadership spill page. What exactly does this mean not only for Australia, but also for the US and Southeast Asia.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Honestly, i know fack all about Abbott, so im not sure what to make of this. But four prime ministers since 2013? Damn.

[Knokkeheist]

Honestly, i know fack all about Abbott, so im not sure what to make of this. But four prime ministers since 2013? Damn.

Still less than Greece.

[Geilinor]

I saw this on Wikipedia and skimmed through their Leadership spill page. What exactly does this mean not only for Australia, but also for the US and Southeast Asia.

Australia usually has elections every three years so nothing much.

[Eol Sha]

I saw this on Wikipedia and skimmed through their Leadership spill page. What exactly does this mean not only for Australia, but also for the US and Southeast Asia.

Australia usually has elections every three years so nothing much.

When is the next election?

[Pope Joan]

Let's blame our leaders for the failures of the global economy. Surely our new standard bearers can fare better against those forces.

Unless you are really Socialist, you cannot.

[The United Colonies of Earth]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34245005

Australia is to have a new prime minister after Tony Abbott was ousted as leader of the centre-right Liberal Party by Malcolm Turnbull.

In the dramatic late night party leadership ballot, Mr Abbott, who had been plagued by poor opinion polls, received 44 votes to Mr Turnbull's 54.

Mr Turnbull said he assumed that parliament would serve its full term, implying no snap general election.

The new leader will be Australia's fourth prime minister since 2013.

Ahead of the vote, Mr Turnbull had said if Mr Abbott remained as leader, the coalition government would lose the next election, which is likely to take place next year.

He said he had not taken the decision to launch a leadership challenge lightly, but that it was "clear enough that the government is not successful in providing the economic leadership that we need".

Ms Bishop had supported his bid to become party leader.

The last Australian prime minister to serve a full term was John Howard, who left power in 2007.

Labor Prime Minister Julia Gillard was ousted by rival Kevin Rudd in a leadership vote in June 2013 - months before a general election won by Tony Abbott's Liberal Party and its coalition partners the National Party.

Ms Gillard herself had ousted Mr Rudd as prime minister in 2010.

Mr Turnbull had previously been leader of the Liberals while in opposition, but was ousted by Mr Abbott in 2009.

Mr Abbott survived a leadership challenge in February, but his government has consistently been behind the opposition Labor Party in opinion polls.

So, if you blinked you missed it-Tony Abbot has been replaced as Australian PM.

I myself was rather shocked about the speed of which he was deposed, only having heard of the potential for a vote yesterday. I know Abbot wasn't a very popular PM, but i cant stay i know enough of the volatile nature of current Australian politics to say whether this is a good thing or not. Although, as the article points out, Abbots leadership never seemed very firm given he was also challenged in February.

What say ye NSG? Is this a good or a bad thing for Australia? Will this improve the coalition government's chances of reelection? Do you expect to see any change in government policy? Should those pesky Kangaroos just launch the coup d'etat and be done with it?

Discuss.

Good riddance.
Kangaroo coup d'etat? I could get behind that.

[Eol Sha]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-34245005



So, if you blinked you missed it-Tony Abbot has been replaced as Australian PM.

I myself was rather shocked about the speed of which he was deposed, only having heard of the potential for a vote yesterday. I know Abbot wasn't a very popular PM, but i cant stay i know enough of the volatile nature of current Australian politics to say whether this is a good thing or not. Although, as the article points out, Abbots leadership never seemed very firm given he was also challenged in February.

What say ye NSG? Is this a good or a bad thing for Australia? Will this improve the coalition government's chances of reelection? Do you expect to see any change in government policy? Should those pesky Kangaroos just launch the coup d'etat and be done with it?

Discuss.

Good riddance.
Kangaroo coup d'etat? I could get behind that.

Why good riddance?

[Sternberg]

I admit, I was a little surprised at how quick events in Canberra turned out yesterday evening. But I suspect you'll find me dancing on the hard-right conservatives' political graves for a little while, along with a certain percentage of the federal electorate.

If there's anything that should be taken out from Mr Abbott's term (as well as on again, off again Mr Rudd's time in office), it is this: Australian Prime Ministers are just that - "first ministers" of the Australian Parliament. They are not Presidents of Australia (such as in the style of the President of the United States, who has far more power invested into their office) and, thus, should not govern in the style of a president, without the consultation and support of the government of the day or by alienating the electorate.

(Mind, I'm sure there were other, probably more vital factors that had prompted the downfall of the Abbott leadership)

Now the next question (though probably the first of many over the next 11 months) is whether the newest incumbent, Malcolm Turnbull, can turn the Liberals around for the better before the next election. Equal chances for both 'yes' and 'no', but at least it can't be said that Mr Turnbull won't be rolling up his sleeves and getting stuck in now he has the chair.

Best of luck to the newest incumbents of the Prime Ministership ... and "so long and thanks for all the gaffes", Mr Abbott.