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Postby Haktiva » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:26 pm

Meh. Good for them. Don't really care.
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Postby Inzijard » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:26 pm

Faustin Land wrote:So they legalize gay marriage but not the right to marry multiple people or my own dog? Shame.

THIS IS AN AFFRONT TO MY LIBERTY.
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Postby Distruzio » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:27 pm

Faustin Land wrote:So they legalize gay marriage but not the right to marry multiple people or my own dog? Shame.


One is taking advantage of the laws concerning marriage.

The other involves a "partner" incapable of giving consent.

The two are not related to homosexual unions.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:28 pm

Distruzio wrote:
Faustin Land wrote:So they legalize gay marriage but not the right to marry multiple people or my own dog? Shame.


One is taking advantage of the laws concerning marriage.

The other involves a "partner" incapable of giving consent.

The two are not related to homosexual unions.


It as a joke.

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Postby Inzijard » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:29 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Distruzio wrote:
One is taking advantage of the laws concerning marriage.

The other involves a "partner" incapable of giving consent.

The two are not related to homosexual unions.


It as a joke.

Poe's law. Tsk tsk.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:30 pm

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Of course it would be more fair, but not truly equal still. I know it isn't in all cases, but married couples can get very good tax breaks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_love

This is what I argue. There should be a separation of state and interpersonal relationships. If people want to be married, then sure, go ahead. Just don't force me to pay for your extra rights and privileges. I don't think that's an irrational opinion to hold, as I wouldn't want to force people to pay for my special rights and benefits.

They aren't special rights, they're just an easy way to have the common rights many couples want.


Married couples have rights over non married individuals. Thus, the state is incentivizing marriage, whether they intend to or not, by granted special rights to those who do get the arbitrary recognition of the government.

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How can these not be provided in non-state solutions? They could either be provided communally or through free markets.

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Postby Cherzonyl » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:31 pm

Terrible.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:33 pm

Faustin Land wrote:So they legalize gay marriage but not the right to marry multiple people or my own dog? Shame.


Can your dog legally provide consent? No? Then stop making such an idiotic comparison. As far as marrying multiple people goes, figure out how to work the bureaucratic issues regarding insurance, inheritance, and the like, and then we'll talk.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:34 pm

Cherzonyl wrote:Terrible.


Why?

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:35 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Faustin Land wrote:So they legalize gay marriage but not the right to marry multiple people or my own dog? Shame.


Can your dog legally provide consent? No? Then stop making such an idiotic comparison. As far as marrying multiple people goes, figure out how to work the bureaucratic issues regarding insurance, inheritance, and the like, and then we'll talk.



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Postby United States Kingdom » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:35 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Faustin Land wrote:So they legalize gay marriage but not the right to marry multiple people or my own dog? Shame.


Can your dog legally provide consent? No? Then stop making such an idiotic comparison. As far as marrying multiple people goes, figure out how to work the bureaucratic issues regarding insurance, inheritance, and the like, and then we'll talk.


Next thing you know, they will recommend marrying sister and brother.

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Postby Geilinor » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:35 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Geilinor wrote:They aren't special rights, they're just an easy way to have the common rights many couples want.


Married couples have rights over non married individuals. Thus, the state is incentivizing marriage, whether they intend to or not, by granted special rights to those who do get the arbitrary recognition of the government.


Non-married individuals have those rights (can have custody of a child, can inherit etc.), marriage is basically a way to "share" or hold certain rights in common.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:36 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Can your dog legally provide consent? No? Then stop making such an idiotic comparison. As far as marrying multiple people goes, figure out how to work the bureaucratic issues regarding insurance, inheritance, and the like, and then we'll talk.



Say it with me.... Jokkkeee


If it's an argument that's been made in all seriousness to the point of cliche, then I'm not sure how one is meant to determine when someone means it as a joke.

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Postby Faustin Land » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:36 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Faustin Land wrote:So they legalize gay marriage but not the right to marry multiple people or my own dog? Shame.


Can your dog legally provide consent? No? Then stop making such an idiotic comparison. As far as marrying multiple people goes, figure out how to work the bureaucratic issues regarding insurance, inheritance, and the like, and then we'll talk.

It was a joke. I tried to make it as obvious as possible, but it seems I failed.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:38 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:

Say it with me.... Jokkkeee


If it's an argument that's been made in all seriousness to the point of cliche, then I'm not sure how one is meant to determine when someone means it as a joke.


UH, there's actually a word for this type of humor. Being Facetious I think,

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:38 pm

Faustin Land wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Can your dog legally provide consent? No? Then stop making such an idiotic comparison. As far as marrying multiple people goes, figure out how to work the bureaucratic issues regarding insurance, inheritance, and the like, and then we'll talk.

It was a joke. I tried to make it as obvious as possible, but it seems Poe's law applies everywhere.


What would be the issue with marrying multiple partners?

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:38 pm

Faustin Land wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Can your dog legally provide consent? No? Then stop making such an idiotic comparison. As far as marrying multiple people goes, figure out how to work the bureaucratic issues regarding insurance, inheritance, and the like, and then we'll talk.

It was a joke. I tried to make it as obvious as possible, but it seems Poe's law applies everywhere.


It would have worked better if that weren't a commonly used response.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:39 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
If it's an argument that's been made in all seriousness to the point of cliche, then I'm not sure how one is meant to determine when someone means it as a joke.


UH, there's actually a word for this type of humor. Being Facetious I think,


Right. However, if you're using an argument like this around people who aren't familiar with your actual opinions, and expressing it in text with no accompanying disclaimer or other indication of one's lack of seriousness, then there is no context in which to see that the comment was meant facetiously.

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Postby Faustin Land » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:39 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Faustin Land wrote:It was a joke. I tried to make it as obvious as possible, but it seems Poe's law applies everywhere.


It would have worked better if that weren't a commonly used response.

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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:40 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Faustin Land wrote:It was a joke. I tried to make it as obvious as possible, but it seems Poe's law applies everywhere.


It would have worked better if that weren't a commonly used response.


Most people got it so I'd imagine it worked fine.

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Postby Soheran » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:40 pm

Cherzonyl wrote:Terrible.


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Postby Inzijard » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:40 pm

Moving on?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:40 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
It would have worked better if that weren't a commonly used response.


Most people got it so I'd imagine it worked fine.


I'm not aware that "most people" got it. At any rate, the subject is boring me to tears. Let's move on.

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Postby Atlanticatia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:41 pm

Othelos wrote:
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I've always been of the opinion that if a gay couple wants to get married, civil ceremonies are fine. If they want a church to do it though, g'luck finding one... I hear Vegas is nice.

the episcopal church does them, I think


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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:42 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Most people got it so I'd imagine it worked fine.


I'm not aware that "most people" got it. At any rate, the subject is boring me to tears. Let's move on.


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