Gay Marriage Legal in North Carolina!

[Kelinfort]

Pagan?

Mhm. Non-Christian or non-Messianic Jew.

I could just arbitrarily call you a pagan according to my beliefs.

[Socialist Abania]

You should be more upset than anyone. Did Jesus not say to his followers in the Gospel of Matthew when telling them not to swear oaths by God that they should let their yes be yes and their no be no? What do you imagine your Lord and saviour would have to say about someone who says they will leave and then stays? "Let your leaving be leaving and your staying be staying"?

You've got to be kidding me. Right?

I know.
It's total bullshit that gay marriage is not allowed. But we'll get over it, once they all allow it.

[Anglo-California]

All American states will legalize gay marriage before 2020. There, we're done.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

You've got to be kidding me. Right?

What, iffy is making a point and are you not going to argue him?

He is calling it a sin to say you are going to log off on an Internet forum and later change your mind. What is to debate? He's being ridiculous.

[The New Sea Territory]

Actually, when we think about it, isn't gay marriage legal in every state? Gays can have a marriage ceremony and call themselves married without the police throwing them in jail for doing this.

It is similar to when a man in India married a dog. They were married but they didn't get it registered with the govt. The police didn't put him in jail for marrying the dog though.

The title should say 'Gay marriage legally recognized in North Carolina'

Most people understand that by "marriage" we are referring to the legal institution. One would think it was obvious, but apparently not.

"Marriage" has two forms. Legal and Religious. Other than that, it's not really "marriage".

Mhm. Non-Christian or non-Messianic Jew.

I could just arbitrarily call you a pagan according to my beliefs.

Funny thing is that Muslims aren't Pagan, and he's intentionally disregarding them from his "cool kids anti-Pagan club".

[Avenio]

All marriage should be legal and ignored by the govt. The govt. needs to get out of the marriage business.

I always found it amusing that this argument only started to rear its ugly head when the anti-equality movement started its full retreat from relevance. Mite bit convenient that now, of all times, you want to get government out of marriage.

[Olerand]

Cannot add something to the discussion when he does not answer 90% of the posts directed at him.

To whom are you referring?

Draica.

[Socialist Abania]

What, iffy is making a point and are you not going to argue him?

He is calling it a sin to say you are going to log off on an Internet forum and later change your mind. What is to debate? He's being ridiculous.

Or maybe you've been blind enough to quote the bible without seeing it to bite you back as a argument.
Respond. We won't mind.We will.

[The New Sea Territory]

What, iffy is making a point and are you not going to argue him?

He is calling it a sin to say you are going to log off on an Internet forum and later change your mind. What is to debate? He's being ridiculous.

"You call it a sin for me to enjoy sexual relations with another man. What is to debate? You're being ridiculous."

So...yeah. You can say this about anything, because sin is a meaningless word that you throw at your enemies, like "Pagan".

[Socialist Abania]

He is calling it a sin to say you are going to log off on an Internet forum and later change your mind. What is to debate? He's being ridiculous.

"You call it a sin for me to enjoy sexual relations with another man. What is to debate? You're being ridiculous."

So...yeah. You can say this about anything, because sin is a meaningless word that you throw at your enemies, like "Pagan".

Pagan goes under many definitions, so it's no wonder why it's useless

[Ifreann]

You should be more upset than anyone. Did Jesus not say to his followers in the Gospel of Matthew when telling them not to swear oaths by God that they should let their yes be yes and their no be no? What do you imagine your Lord and saviour would have to say about someone who says they will leave and then stays? "Let your leaving be leaving and your staying be staying"?

You've got to be kidding me. Right?

I didn't really expect you to respond seriously, so close enough.

[Olerand]

All marriage should be legal and ignored by the govt. The govt. needs to get out of the marriage business.

I always found it amusing that this argument only started to rear its ugly head when the anti-equality movement started its full retreat from relevance. Mite bit convenient that now, of all times, you want to get government out of marriage.

This.

And it is such a quintessentially American argument too. The refusal to admit defeat, the visceral hatred of government, and the whitewashing of wrongs and claiming of always being on the "right side".

[The balkens]

What, iffy is making a point and are you not going to argue him?

He is calling it a sin to say you are going to log off on an Internet forum and later change your mind. What is to debate? He's being ridiculous.

Its called a lie, which is a sin.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

You've got to be kidding me. Right?

What, iffy is making a point and are you not going to argue him?

When there's no coherent or cogent argument to be made, none should be made.

[The New Sea Territory]

I always found it amusing that this argument only started to rear its ugly head when the anti-equality movement started its full retreat from relevance. Mite bit convenient that now, of all times, you want to get government out of marriage.

This.

And it is such a quintessentially American argument too. The refusal to admit defeat, the visceral hatred of government, and the whitewashing of wrongs and claiming of always being on the "right side".

Lol. That's actually not true, as anarchists in the 1800s argued for such things. I've almost always argued for separation of state and relationships.

[Ifreann]

Most people understand that by "marriage" we are referring to the legal institution. One would think it was obvious, but apparently not.

"Marriage" has two forms. Legal and Religious. Other than that, it's not really "marriage".

And in this context I would have thought it obvious that we are talking about the legal institution of marriage. What with all the talk of court decisions and judges and attorneys and it saying "Legal" in the title.

[The balkens]

What, iffy is making a point and are you not going to argue him?

When there's no coherent or cogent argument to be made, none should be made.

Hmm....good point.

[The New Sea Territory]

"Marriage" has two forms. Legal and Religious. Other than that, it's not really "marriage".

And in this context I would have thought it obvious that we are talking about the legal institution of marriage. What with all the talk of court decisions and judges and attorneys and it saying "Legal" in the title.

Of course, I wasn't disagreeing, just adding to your statement.

[Draica]

Having said that, the moors were the ones going into Christian lands, attacking the Eastren Orthodox Byzantine empire and executing mass genocides against Christians.

The Christians of the Middle East during the time of the invasion of the Rashidun Caliphate were no friends of the Byzantines. They were predominantly non-Greek, non-Chalcedonian Christians who had been consistently persecuted by the Chalcedonian imperial authorities for centuries. The first caliphs, in contrast, were completely willing to leave them alone to practice their religion as they wished so long as they paid their taxes and didn't cause trouble. You ever wonder why there weren't any serious revolts against Muslim rule in places like the Levant and Egypt during the first few centuries of the caliphate, even though the Christians were by far the dominant religious group? That's why.

I'm aware that the crusaders were no friends of the Byzantines. Infact, the Crusaders trampled all over the Byzantines lands and eventually established Crusader states in the heart of the Empire and in outlying pieces of it which were centered near Jerusalem. I did not need to know this again. And no, I do not wonder. The Muslims had more than a capable military force that would have crushed any Christian rebellions, even though the first caliph were plauged by more problems than the fear of the Christians uprising.

It doesn't change the fact that they invaded Europe, that they took Christian lands over, that they invaded Jerusalem and killed thousands while doing so(yes, the crusaders were no better as they also killed thousands in the multiple attempts to re-take Jerusalem,). They were not nice people. They were radicals who had immense power and immense sway and used that to their advantage against the European and non-muslim cultures in their scope.

[Socialist Abania]

You've got to be kidding me. Right?

I didn't really expect you to respond seriously, so close enough.

We still waiting :3

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

He is calling it a sin to say you are going to log off on an Internet forum and later change your mind. What is to debate? He's being ridiculous.

Its called a lie, which is a sin.

It's the same thing as saying you are going to get pickles at the grocery store, then changing your mind when you get there. It's not a lie.

[Freiheit Reich]

Actually, when we think about it, isn't gay marriage legal in every state? Gays can have a marriage ceremony and call themselves married without the police throwing them in jail for doing this.

It is similar to when a man in India married a dog. They were married but they didn't get it registered with the govt. The police didn't put him in jail for marrying the dog though.

The title should say 'Gay marriage legally recognized in North Carolina'

Most people understand that by "marriage" we are referring to the legal institution. One would think it was obvious, but apparently not.

The Polygamists in Utah only have one legally recognized marriage but in the eyes of God they have several wives. For them, it is likely God's views matter more than man's.

[Inzijard]

What, iffy is making a point and are you not going to argue him?

When there's no coherent or cogent argument to be made, none should be made.

This is true.

[The New Sea Territory]

I always found it amusing that this argument only started to rear its ugly head when the anti-equality movement started its full retreat from relevance. Mite bit convenient that now, of all times, you want to get government out of marriage.

This.

And it is such a quintessentially American argument too. The refusal to admit defeat, the visceral hatred of government, and the whitewashing of wrongs and claiming of always being on the "right side".

...and if you guys are trying to imply that only homophobes argue that govt should be out of marriage...I'm bisexual and support government out of all marriage.

[Olerand]

This.

And it is such a quintessentially American argument too. The refusal to admit defeat, the visceral hatred of government, and the whitewashing of wrongs and claiming of always being on the "right side".

Lol. That's actually not true, as anarchists in the 1800s argued for such things. I've almost always argued for separation of state and relationships.

Alright, with exceptions for anarchists noted.