Gay Marriage Legal in North Carolina!

[Aeternabilis]

I would ask how we got from gay marriage to the crusades, but that's pretty commonplace here. In any case, good for North Carolina. Hopefully marriage equality will spread all across the US and the world.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

:twisted: 666th post!

Deian...

[Inzijard]

So you're admitting you support violent wars for money and power?

I clearly stated in the parts that you did NOT quote(this is why you study history, children) that the motivation behind the crusades was caused by corrupties and the lies were dishonorable. Having said that, the moors were the ones going into Christian lands, attacking the Eastren Orthodox Byzantine empire and executing mass genocides against Christians. I support the fact that our crusader brothers went over there with the motive to reclaim lands taken from innocent Christians.

That's what I support.

Aren't you leaving? I'm getting mixed messages here, seeing as you said so at least twice now.

[Ifreann]

I do believe that the Muslims consider christ to be a minor prophet, the ones i spoke to in Dearborn echoed this.

So, same god.

That statement is very ignorance and in the face of amounting evidence that debunks your claim you continue to stick by it.

Let's try once more, a major point for almost all mainstream Christian denominations(non-cults) is the Holy Trinity, as I said in my quotes the Muslims believe that is nonsense and believe the divinity of Jesus Christ is BLASPHEMY!

If you exclude such a main compotent of christology then there is absoloutely no way whatsoever that you can have both of them being the same God. It's not possible theologically.

Not only are you not leaving when you said you would, you are now posting entirely off topic. Is this your Christianity?

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Only if you've got a cheaper, more efficient alternative that provides the same guarantees of the necessary rights and privileges associated with marriage.

Power of attorney and a will can be made for a reasonable cost and have a lower risk than marriage. Yes, there may be rights but if your marriage fails (which will happen 50% of the time in the USA) you are screwed. It is a high risk action and the risks might not be worth the rewards.

It is commonly claimed that half of all marriages in the United States eventually end in divorce, an estimate possibly based on the fact that in any given year, the number of marriages is about twice the number of divorces.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce_in ... of_divorce

[Atlanticatia]

holy crap you've misinterpreted the goals of the pro-LGBT rights movement.

They want equality but in this case, equality is not necessarily good. Remember, 50% of marriages fail and I doubt gays will have a much better record. Without marriage there is no divorce and many divorces themselves are quite ugly.

there's always going to be some sort of legal partnership for tax/asset/income purposes, whether you like it or not. if we just called it domestic partnerships or something, it'd still be a matter for government and there would still be a lot of legal issues when the partnership ends.
it's not like legal fights after relationships come to an end have to do with "govt marriage" at all anyway.

it's not some authoritarian thing where the state is intervening in peoples private lives. it's literally just the state providing a framework for legal partnerships for tax/inheritance/medical rights/etc purposes..

and LGBT people should have the right to be married both in a social sense and in a legal sense, and should be entitled to all the legal and social benefits as straight couples - and the right to have a divorce and legal fight after.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

I clearly stated in the parts that you did NOT quote(this is why you study history, children) that the motivation behind the crusades was caused by corrupties and the lies were dishonorable. Having said that, the moors were the ones going into Christian lands, attacking the Eastren Orthodox Byzantine empire and executing mass genocides against Christians. I support the fact that our crusader brothers went over there with the motive to reclaim lands taken from innocent Christians.

That's what I support.

Aren't you leaving? I'm getting mixed messages here, seeing as you said so at least twice now.

That's not relevant. Maybe he changed his mind. You're just being rude. Now, please, try to add something to this discussion.

[Inzijard]

Aren't you leaving? I'm getting mixed messages here, seeing as you said so at least twice now.

That's not relevant. Maybe he changed his mind. You're just being rude. Now, please, try to add something to this discussion.

Hey, it's an honest question.

[Grenartia]

Only if you've got a cheaper, more efficient alternative that provides the same guarantees of the necessary rights and privileges associated with marriage.

1. Power of attorney and a will can be made for a reasonable cost and have a lower risk than marriage. 2. Yes, there may be rights but if your marriage fails (which will happen 50% of the time in the USA) you are screwed. 3. It is a high risk action and the risks might not be worth the rewards.

1. More expensive, and don't guarantee shit as well as marriage does.

2. Not necessarily.

3. Sounds like a total load of bullshit to me.

[United States Kingdom]

Yet the Christian nations such as the UK and France colonized multiple parts of the world including where I come from.

And where is that? (He asks, risking the chance that is somewhere that France has slaughtered people)

Also, I love the new spin on the Crusades, where it's an attempt by the Christians to protect themselves by pre-emptively fighting a war that is not near their lands, and that they actually did it all for the Jews! Oh, won't someone think of the oppressed Jews!

I must say, this is a first. I have genuinely never heard this.

May I recommend that you intellectuals send your theory to the Christian Democratic Party here in France? I'm sure cousin-lover Christine Boutin would appreciate the new fresh air of demagoguery.

Because they did. Ever heard of colonialism.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9tif ... _relations

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Hey, it's an honest question.

Maybe he changed his mind.

[Avenio]

Having said that, the moors were the ones going into Christian lands, attacking the Eastren Orthodox Byzantine empire and executing mass genocides against Christians.

The Christians of the Middle East during the time of the invasion of the Rashidun Caliphate were no friends of the Byzantines. They were predominantly non-Greek, non-Chalcedonian Christians who had been consistently persecuted by the Chalcedonian imperial authorities for centuries. The first caliphs, in contrast, were completely willing to leave them alone to practice their religion as they wished so long as they paid their taxes and didn't cause trouble. You ever wonder why there weren't any serious revolts against Muslim rule in places like the Levant and Egypt during the first few centuries of the caliphate, even though the Christians were by far the dominant religious group? That's why.

[Ifreann]

Aren't you leaving? I'm getting mixed messages here, seeing as you said so at least twice now.

That's not relevant. Maybe he changed his mind. You're just being rude. Now, please, try to add something to this discussion.

You should be more upset than anyone. Did Jesus not say to his followers in the Gospel of Matthew when telling them not to swear oaths by God that they should let their yes be yes and their no be no? What do you imagine your Lord and saviour would have to say about someone who says they will leave and then stays? "Let your leaving be leaving and your staying be staying"?

[The New Sea Territory]

So you're admitting you support violent wars for money and power?

I clearly stated in the parts that you did NOT quote(this is why you study history, children) that the motivation behind the crusades was caused by corrupties and the lies were dishonorable. Having said that, the moors were the ones going into Christian lands, attacking the Eastren Orthodox Byzantine empire and executing mass genocides against Christians. I support the fact that our crusader brothers went over there with the motive to reclaim lands taken from innocent Christians.

That's what I support.

When you try to rationalize and defend the crusades, it shows that you're really just trying to make sense of the actions of your religion and defend them at all costs, even if they are horrible.

You really think Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, would support the Crusades?

[Olerand]

Aren't you leaving? I'm getting mixed messages here, seeing as you said so at least twice now.

That's not relevant. Maybe he changed his mind. You're just being rude. Now, please, try to add something to this discussion.

Cannot add something to the discussion when he does not answer 90% of the posts directed at him.

[Freiheit Reich]

Actually, when we think about it, isn't gay marriage legal in every state? Gays can have a marriage ceremony and call themselves married without the police throwing them in jail for doing this.

It is similar to when a man in India married a dog. They were married but they didn't get it registered with the govt. The police didn't put him in jail for marrying the dog though.

The title should say 'Gay marriage legally recognized in North Carolina'

[Olerand]

And where is that? (He asks, risking the chance that is somewhere that France has slaughtered people)

Also, I love the new spin on the Crusades, where it's an attempt by the Christians to protect themselves by pre-emptively fighting a war that is not near their lands, and that they actually did it all for the Jews! Oh, won't someone think of the oppressed Jews!

I must say, this is a first. I have genuinely never heard this.

May I recommend that you intellectuals send your theory to the Christian Democratic Party here in France? I'm sure cousin-lover Christine Boutin would appreciate the new fresh air of demagoguery.

Because they did. Ever heard of colonialism.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A9tif ... _relations

I am more than aware. Some of my extended family members where pieds noirs. So, where are you from?

And I'm asking in a genuinely non-hostile way.

[Olerand]

Actually, when we think about it, isn't gay marriage legal in every state? Gays can have a marriage ceremony and call themselves married without the police throwing them in jail for doing this.

It is similar to when a man in India married a dog. They were married but they didn't get it registered with the govt. The police didn't put him in jail for marrying the dog though.

The title should say 'Gay marriage legally recognized in North Carolina'

Fascinating. Riveting.

[The balkens]

Actually, when we think about it, isn't gay marriage legal in every state? Gays can have a marriage ceremony and call themselves married without the police throwing them in jail for doing this.

It is similar to when a man in India married a dog. They were married but they didn't get it registered with the govt. The police didn't put him in jail for marrying the dog though.

The title should say 'Gay marriage legally recognized in North Carolina'

Nice try, but not the same thing.

[Inzijard]

That's not relevant. Maybe he changed his mind. You're just being rude. Now, please, try to add something to this discussion.

Cannot add something to the discussion when he does not answer 90% of the posts directed at him.

To whom are you referring?

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

That's not relevant. Maybe he changed his mind. You're just being rude. Now, please, try to add something to this discussion.

You should be more upset than anyone. Did Jesus not say to his followers in the Gospel of Matthew when telling them not to swear oaths by God that they should let their yes be yes and their no be no? What do you imagine your Lord and saviour would have to say about someone who says they will leave and then stays? "Let your leaving be leaving and your staying be staying"?

You've got to be kidding me. Right?

[Socialist Abania]

Pagan?

Mhm. Non-Christian or non-Messianic Jew.

Thank you.
You may now crusade as you please. Not that you've gained my respect or anything

Actually, when we think about it, isn't gay marriage legal in every state? Gays can have a marriage ceremony and call themselves married without the police throwing them in jail for doing this.

It is similar to when a man in India married a dog. They were married but they didn't get it registered with the govt. The police didn't put him in jail for marrying the dog though.

The title should say 'Gay marriage legally recognized in North Carolina'

It is not recognized by state, so any marriage made will be nulled and vioded.

[The New Sea Territory]

Actually, when we think about it, isn't gay marriage legal in every state? Gays can have a marriage ceremony and call themselves married without the police throwing them in jail for doing this.

It is similar to when a man in India married a dog. They were married but they didn't get it registered with the govt. The police didn't put him in jail for marrying the dog though.

The title should say 'Gay marriage legally recognized in North Carolina'

When we are talking about "Marriage", we usually mean state-sanctioned marriage.

Of course, I support government being out of marriage entirely, but until then, marriage should be equal.

[The balkens]

You should be more upset than anyone. Did Jesus not say to his followers in the Gospel of Matthew when telling them not to swear oaths by God that they should let their yes be yes and their no be no? What do you imagine your Lord and saviour would have to say about someone who says they will leave and then stays? "Let your leaving be leaving and your staying be staying"?

You've got to be kidding me. Right?

What, iffy is making a point and are you not going to argue him?

[Ifreann]

Actually, when we think about it, isn't gay marriage legal in every state? Gays can have a marriage ceremony and call themselves married without the police throwing them in jail for doing this.

It is similar to when a man in India married a dog. They were married but they didn't get it registered with the govt. The police didn't put him in jail for marrying the dog though.

The title should say 'Gay marriage legally recognized in North Carolina'

Most people understand that by "marriage" we are referring to the legal institution. One would think it was obvious, but apparently not.

[Othelos]

Actually, when we think about it, isn't gay marriage legal in every state?'

No, civil marriage is not available to same sex couples in every state.