Gay Marriage Legal in North Carolina!

[Cyrisnia]

Now judges will be going outside of their bounds and striking down laws.

I really, really love this line. It is just such amazing ignorance. It should be in a museum.

You sure? Seems pretty anomalously odd. I say the SCP Foundation should take it. The reason why 106 is always grinning is because he's laughing at that quote.

[Grenartia]

There is no reason to be.

Gay marriage is a sinful abomination. And i thought my state was above it.

You actually think this is some sort of theocracy!

[Divergia]

Hooray!

Well how many states are there now? (that Gay Marriage is Legal in)

[Great Kleomentia]

He couldn't have stopped all this by I don't know... using his powers to make the Pharaoh let them all go and make Ice Cream for them? No? Ok

God could also force people to not watch pornography or tell white lies, 'small stuff' like that. But he doesn't; it's a matter of free will. God does not have zombies serving him.

But he still hates on us when we use the freedom he gave us?

[Cyrisnia]

"EVERYONE IS FREE, well, y'know, 'cept them gays. Still debating on them blacks, too."

The gays are free to do as they please, as long as they are related. *nods*

When do we hit the gray area?

[Othelos]

He couldn't have stopped all this by I don't know... using his powers to make the Pharaoh let them all go and make Ice Cream for them? No? Ok

God could also force people to not watch pornography or tell white lies, 'small stuff' like that. But he doesn't; it's a matter of free will. God does not have zombies serving him.

So then who are you to support restricting others' personal lives? When gay people marry, it isn't hurting anyone, so why do you care?

[Inzijard]

I believe the Bible hints that the people killed in the Great Flood were part-Nephillim. I believe it was Pharaoh who 'genocided' (?) the Hebrew boys because he didn't like them, and it was also Pharaoh who put the Hebrews into slavery, having them beat, and taking away their straw to make bricks (forcing them to find straw themselves, and still make the same amount). God politely had Noah go to Pharaoah and ask him to let the people go. Pharaoh denied God at least ten times. That forced God to do the punishment where all firstborn -- man and animal -- who did not have the blood of a lamb on their door -- to die.

Source: Genesis and Exodus

The Biblical laws applied to everyone. If you were a slave, they taught you how to act. If you found yourselves with slaves, they taught you what to do. They weren't condoning slavery. The Bible never encourages rebellion, which, even against slavemasters, is wrong (unless God explicitly allows it, which he did in the case of the Exodus).

He couldn't have stopped all this by I don't know... using his powers to make the Pharaoh let them all go and make Ice Cream for them? No? Ok

Yes, let's punish all the people for the Pharaoh's obstinacy.

[Nord Amour]

Hooray!

Well how many states are there now? (that Gay Marriage is Legal in)

Not enough.

[Seno Zhou Varada]

He couldn't have stopped all this by I don't know... using his powers to make the Pharaoh let them all go and make Ice Cream for them? No? Ok

God could also force people to not watch pornography or tell white lies, 'small stuff' like that. But he doesn't; it's a matter of free will. God does not have zombies serving him.

So basically your using the free will argument? Let me tell you that if your god really cared about his creations he would help them not leave them hanging in slavery, genocide, discrimination, all that stuff.

[Cyrisnia]

God could also force people to not watch pornography or tell white lies, 'small stuff' like that. But he doesn't; it's a matter of free will. God does not have zombies serving him.

So then who are you to supporting restricting others' personal lives? When gay people marry, it isn't hurting anyone, so why do you care?

It hurts Ken Ham. *Sniff*

[Benuty]

I believe you mean iron age.

Christianity and Islam are the children of Judaism, which has its roots in the Bronze Age.

Actually no, Judaism came out as a product of Yahwism when it fully reformed to resist the influences of the Cult of Marduk.

So it is iron age.

[Great Kleomentia]

The gays are free to do as they please, as long as they are related. *nods*

When do we hit the gray area?

I think we might have passed it.

[The New Sea Territory]

I really don't think, sir, that millions of gay and lesbian people have been hiding out for the last six thousand years 'in the closet'.

Considering that we don't have records of the demographics of those times, I can't say "Millions", but I will say for sure that they were a persecuted minority. My source? Your unholy book, which was essentially the code of law for a long time in many places.

I suspect that they have begun to rapidly increase in population

Perhaps the birth rate of LGBT people is higher, but I have a feeling you'll turn this into a juicy circlejerk of religiosity and irrationality.

(1) due to the pro-gay culture we live in

Really. Tell me how they are teaching all the little children to like dick in sex ed.

(2) due to the desire for attention

No, no. To do that, all you have to do is go Tim Tebow and talk about Gawd and Jezus a bunch.

(3) the attention lavished on gay people, particularly in the media

?

(4) God 'giving us up' over to our sins due to our continued rebellion

If such an asshole were to exist, rebellion against him would be the only logical and moral thing to do.

(5) Satanic attacks

I didn't think you'd stoop this low. Satan, by the way, is a freedom fighter.

(6) Sinful culture in general and

Sinful culture has been the norm for all of human history, by your standards.

(7) the lack of a strong Christian influence in America today (as a result of the last six points).

Christianity has a pretty strong influence, considering 70% of the country is Christian.

I conclude that you have simply made up nonsense and pawned it off as an insult to logical debate everywhere.

[Draica]

The majority of North Carolinians voted against gay marriage. The majority spoke. The Judges that are doing this are doing so under the SCOTUS's decision to not speak on Gay marriage. Judges in Idaho and Nevada have been knocking down laws left and right under the guise of the laws being "unconstituional" when the very body that decides that has not spoken.

This is an ideological move. Last year, the Court ruled that state attorneys general could simply refuse to defend state laws in favor of traditional marriage, thereby allowing the executive branch of state government to completely destroy law it doesn’t like. The Court furthermore set the predicate for future same-sex marriage rulings in United States v. Windsor, in which, as Scalia summarized, the Court declared “anyone opposed to same-sex marriage an enemy of human decency.”

Instead of upholding their duty to decide the constitutionality of laws, the Supreme court uses a political and ideological move and redirects the authority to the Appeals courts and the district courts. Judges are single-handedly using their "power" to strike down laws that have been upheld as constituional because of their personal ideological vendettas. They have no concern for the people in the states(WHO WERE IN THE MAJORITY) who voted against gay marriage and succeeded in 11 additional states.

Now judges will be going outside of their bounds and striking down laws. How dissipointing, first the Supreme Court abandoning it's duty to atleast give a ruling on this and now the forced acceptance of Gay marriage.

You know, I'm beginning to think the LGBT's motto is "tolerance and love-..If you agree with us, and if you don't you're a homophobe."

It's sad. This is sad. Our legislature needs to stand up and demand the SCOTUS do something.

Basic human rights are more valuable than political freedom. The courts are simply preventing an ignorant majority from reverting to the Bronze Age.

Hail Satan.

You have not refuted a single point in my argument, infact you've proved that you have a profound lack of knowledge on constitutional law. I'm making the legal argument, and it is not within the duty for the SCOTUS to disregard their duty to rule on this stuff and give it to idealougs who seek to rip apart what legislatures have passed.

That's not how it works.

[Othelos]

So then who are you to supporting restricting others' personal lives? When gay people marry, it isn't hurting anyone, so why do you care?

It hurts Ken Ham. *Sniff*

Please, I met him, he seemed pretty able to stand on his feet against criticism.

[Divergia]

Hooray!

Well how many states are there now? (that Gay Marriage is Legal in)

Not enough.

I was referring to an actual number

[The balkens]

It hurts Ken Ham. *Sniff*

Please, I met him, he seemed pretty able to stand on his feet against criticism.

I say, isint that the fellow that dueled Bill Nye?

[Great Kleomentia]

It hurts Ken Ham. *Sniff*

Please, I met him, he seemed pretty able to stand on his feet against criticism.

Is he actually as big a idiot as his worshipers make him out to be?

[Othelos]

Basic human rights are more valuable than political freedom. The courts are simply preventing an ignorant majority from reverting to the Bronze Age.

Hail Satan.

You have not refuted a single point in my argument, infact you've proved that you have a profound lack of knowledge on constitutional law. I'm making the legal argument, and it is not within the duty for the SCOTUS to disregard their duty to rule on this stuff and give it to idealougs who seek to rip apart what legislatures have passed.

That's not how it works.

So if the public/legislature of Mississippi passed a resolution that reinstated slavery, the courts should just stand aside?

[Grenartia]

Right. Being threatened with death for hundreds of years isn't oppression.

I really don't think, sir, that millions of gay and lesbian people have been hiding out for the last six thousand years 'in the closet'. I suspect that they have begun to rapidly increase in population (1) due to the pro-gay culture we live in (2) due to the desire for attention (3) the attention lavished on gay people, particularly in the media (4) God 'giving us up' over to our sins due to our continued rebellion (5) Satanic attacks (6) Sinful culture in general and (7) the lack of a strong Christian influence in America today (as a result of the last six points).

Yeah, no. Speaking as somebody who's lived this shit (on both sides), I can safely that's all total bullshit.

[Cyrisnia]

When do we hit the gray area?

I think we might have passed it.

....oh my.

Please, I met him, he seemed pretty able to stand on his feet against criticism.

Is he actually as big a idiot as his worshipers make him out to be?

I'm wondering this too.

[Olerand]

The majority of North Carolinians voted against gay marriage. The majority spoke. The Judges that are doing this are doing so under the SCOTUS's decision to not speak on Gay marriage. Judges in Idaho and Nevada have been knocking down laws left and right under the guise of the laws being "unconstituional" when the very body that decides that has not spoken.

This is an ideological move. Last year, the Court ruled that state attorneys general could simply refuse to defend state laws in favor of traditional marriage, thereby allowing the executive branch of state government to completely destroy law it doesn’t like. The Court furthermore set the predicate for future same-sex marriage rulings in United States v. Windsor, in which, as Scalia summarized, the Court declared “anyone opposed to same-sex marriage an enemy of human decency.”

Instead of upholding their duty to decide the constitutionality of laws, the Supreme court uses a political and ideological move and redirects the authority to the Appeals courts and the district courts. Judges are single-handedly using their "power" to strike down laws that have been upheld as constituional because of their personal ideological vendettas. They have no concern for the people in the states(WHO WERE IN THE MAJORITY) who voted against gay marriage and succeeded in 11 additional states.

Now judges will be going outside of their bounds and striking down laws. How dissipointing, first the Supreme Court abandoning it's duty to atleast give a ruling on this and now the forced acceptance of Gay marriage.

You know, I'm beginning to think the LGBT's motto is "tolerance and love-..If you agree with us, and if you don't you're a homophobe."

It's sad. This is sad. Our legislature needs to stand up and demand the SCOTUS do something.

The majority of North Carolinians voted against interracial marriage. The majority spoke.

How dare the ideological courts overturn their democratic decisions?

You know, I'm beginning to think the Blacks' motto is "tolerance and love-..If you agree with us, and if you don't you're a racist."

[Socialist Abania]

You have not refuted a single point in my argument, infact you've proved that you have a profound lack of knowledge on constitutional law. I'm making the legal argument, and it is not within the duty for the SCOTUS to disregard their duty to rule on this stuff and give it to idealougs who seek to rip apart what legislatures have passed.

That's not how it works.

So if the public/legislature of Mississippi passed a resolution that reinstated slavery, the courts should just stand aside?

The Constitution prevents them

[Greater Beggnig]

I'll be honest, the conflation of communism and homosexuality is not one I've ever understood.

Neither have I. Also, don't we already have a thread for this?

Yes, we do and I made it. I didn't think it was going to get so popular.

[Inzijard]

God could also force people to not watch pornography or tell white lies, 'small stuff' like that. But he doesn't; it's a matter of free will. God does not have zombies serving him.

So basically your using the free will argument? Let me tell you that if your god really cared about his creations he would help them not leave them hanging in slavery, genocide, discrimination, all that stuff.

Apparently the sexual orientation of people is more important than, y'know, them not being imprisoned/tortured/murdered for one reason or another.