Tea party separation of america wrote:First time i have felt ashamed of NC in a long while...
Watching the right's reaction to gay marriage has been amusing to no end.
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by Nord Amour » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:41 pm
Tea party separation of america wrote:First time i have felt ashamed of NC in a long while...
by Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:41 pm
by Seno Zhou Varada » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:41 pm
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Olerand wrote:Not that I find this discussion to be of any relevance whatsoever as last I checked one cannot base laws or court orders in the United States based on Biblical word...God himself has genocided humanity(Noah's flood), he has killed many many people(including but not limited to little Egyptian boys), and the Bible does in fact reference slavery and how slaves must obey their masters. Also, polygamy was practiced by some of God's favorites, but that's not "Biblical marriage" mind you.
I believe the Bible hints that the people killed in the Great Flood were part-Nephillim. I believe it was Pharaoh who 'genocided' (?) the Hebrew boys because he didn't like them, and it was also Pharaoh who put the Hebrews into slavery, having them beat, and taking away their straw to make bricks (forcing them to find straw themselves, and still make the same amount). God politely had Noah go to Pharaoah and ask him to let the people go. Pharaoh denied God at least ten times. That forced God to do the punishment where all firstborn -- man and animal -- who did not have the blood of a lamb on their door -- to die.
Source: Genesis and Exodus
The Biblical laws applied to everyone. If you were a slave, they taught you how to act. If you found yourselves with slaves, they taught you what to do. They weren't condoning slavery. The Bible never encourages rebellion, which, even against slavemasters, is wrong (unless God explicitly allows it, which he did in the case of the Exodus).
by Socialist Abania » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:42 pm
by Othelos » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:42 pm
Draica wrote:The majority of North Carolinians voted against gay marriage. The majority spoke. The Judges that are doing this are doing so under the SCOTUS's decision to not speak on Gay marriage. Judges in Idaho and Nevada have been knocking down laws left and right under the guise of the laws being "unconstituional" when the very body that decides that has not spoken.
This is an ideological move. Last year, the Court ruled that state attorneys general could simply refuse to defend state laws in favor of traditional marriage, thereby allowing the executive branch of state government to completely destroy law it doesn’t like. The Court furthermore set the predicate for future same-sex marriage rulings in United States v. Windsor, in which, as Scalia summarized, the Court declared “anyone opposed to same-sex marriage an enemy of human decency.”
Instead of upholding their duty to decide the constitutionality of laws, the Supreme court uses a political and ideological move and redirects the authority to the Appeals courts and the district courts. Judges are single-handedly using their "power" to strike down laws that have been upheld as constituional because of their personal ideological vendettas. They have no concern for the people in the states(WHO WERE IN THE MAJORITY) who voted against gay marriage and succeeded in 11 additional states.
Now judges will be going outside of their bounds and striking down laws. How dissipointing, first the Supreme Court abandoning it's duty to atleast give a ruling on this and now the forced acceptance of Gay marriage.
You know, I'm beginning to think the LGBT's motto is "tolerance and love-..If you agree with us, and if you don't you're a homophobe."
It's sad. This is sad. Our legislature needs to stand up and demand the SCOTUS do something.
by Olerand » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:42 pm
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Olerand wrote:Not that I find this discussion to be of any relevance whatsoever as last I checked one cannot base laws or court orders in the United States based on Biblical word...God himself has genocided humanity(Noah's flood), he has killed many many people(including but not limited to little Egyptian boys), and the Bible does in fact reference slavery and how slaves must obey their masters. Also, polygamy was practiced by some of God's favorites, but that's not "Biblical marriage" mind you.
I believe the Bible hints that the people killed in the Great Flood were part-Nephillim. I believe it was Pharaoh who 'genocided' (?) the Hebrew boys because he didn't like them, and it was also Pharaoh who put the Hebrews into slavery, having them beat, and taking away their straw to make bricks (forcing them to find straw themselves, and still make the same amount). God politely had Noah go to Pharaoah and ask him to let the people go. Pharaoh denied God at least ten times. That forced God to do the punishment where all firstborn -- man and animal -- who did not have the blood of a lamb on their door -- to die.
Source: Genesis and Exodus
The Biblical laws applied to everyone. If you were a slave, they taught you how to act. If you found yourselves with slaves, they taught you what to do. They weren't condoning slavery. The Bible never encourages rebellion, which, even against slavemasters, is wrong (unless God explicitly allows it, which he did in the case of the Exodus).
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Cyrisnia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:42 pm
Great Kleomentia wrote:Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
I really don't think, sir, that millions of gay and lesbian people have been hiding out for the last six thousand years 'in the closet'. I suspect that they have begun to rapidly increase in population (1) due to the pro-gay culture we live in (2) due to the desire for attention (3) the attention lavished on gay people, particularly in the media (4) God 'giving us up' over to our sins due to our continued rebellion (5) Satanic attacks (6) Sinful culture in general and (7) the lack of a strong Christian influence in America today (as a result of the last six points).
Yeah, most gays take it up the ass because it's cool. Totally on point, mate.
OH YEAH RIGHT THERE. YEAH. YOU STRAIGHT FUCKS AIN'T GOT NUTTIN ON MY GAY SWAGGER. BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITCH. "
by Grenartia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:42 pm
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Grenartia wrote:
Speaking as a Christian who in no way endorses any of those acts, there are multiple verses of the Bible which condone slavery, and several verses of the OT in which God orders the Hebrews to commit acts of genocide.
Sources needed so they can be refuted.
by Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:43 pm
by The balkens » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:43 pm
by Nord Amour » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:44 pm
Draica wrote:The majority of North Carolinians voted against gay marriage. The majority spoke. The Judges that are doing this are doing so under the SCOTUS's decision to not speak on Gay marriage. Judges in Idaho and Nevada have been knocking down laws left and right under the guise of the laws being "unconstituional" when the very body that decides that has not spoken.
This is an ideological move. Last year, the Court ruled that state attorneys general could simply refuse to defend state laws in favor of traditional marriage, thereby allowing the executive branch of state government to completely destroy law it doesn’t like. The Court furthermore set the predicate for future same-sex marriage rulings in United States v. Windsor, in which, as Scalia summarized, the Court declared “anyone opposed to same-sex marriage an enemy of human decency.”
Instead of upholding their duty to decide the constitutionality of laws, the Supreme court uses a political and ideological move and redirects the authority to the Appeals courts and the district courts. Judges are single-handedly using their "power" to strike down laws that have been upheld as constituional because of their personal ideological vendettas. They have no concern for the people in the states(WHO WERE IN THE MAJORITY) who voted against gay marriage and succeeded in 11 additional states.
Now judges will be going outside of their bounds and striking down laws. How dissipointing, first the Supreme Court abandoning it's duty to atleast give a ruling on this and now the forced acceptance of Gay marriage.
You know, I'm beginning to think the LGBT's motto is "tolerance and love-..If you agree with us, and if you don't you're a homophobe."
It's sad. This is sad. Our legislature needs to stand up and demand the SCOTUS do something.
by Benuty » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:45 pm
Nord Amour wrote:Draica wrote:The majority of North Carolinians voted against gay marriage. The majority spoke. The Judges that are doing this are doing so under the SCOTUS's decision to not speak on Gay marriage. Judges in Idaho and Nevada have been knocking down laws left and right under the guise of the laws being "unconstituional" when the very body that decides that has not spoken.
This is an ideological move. Last year, the Court ruled that state attorneys general could simply refuse to defend state laws in favor of traditional marriage, thereby allowing the executive branch of state government to completely destroy law it doesn’t like. The Court furthermore set the predicate for future same-sex marriage rulings in United States v. Windsor, in which, as Scalia summarized, the Court declared “anyone opposed to same-sex marriage an enemy of human decency.”
Instead of upholding their duty to decide the constitutionality of laws, the Supreme court uses a political and ideological move and redirects the authority to the Appeals courts and the district courts. Judges are single-handedly using their "power" to strike down laws that have been upheld as constituional because of their personal ideological vendettas. They have no concern for the people in the states(WHO WERE IN THE MAJORITY) who voted against gay marriage and succeeded in 11 additional states.
Now judges will be going outside of their bounds and striking down laws. How dissipointing, first the Supreme Court abandoning it's duty to atleast give a ruling on this and now the forced acceptance of Gay marriage.
You know, I'm beginning to think the LGBT's motto is "tolerance and love-..If you agree with us, and if you don't you're a homophobe."
It's sad. This is sad. Our legislature needs to stand up and demand the SCOTUS do something.
Basic human rights are more valuable than political freedom. The courts are simply preventing an ignorant majority from reverting to the Bronze Age.
Hail Satan.
by Grenartia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:45 pm
Tea party separation of america wrote:First time i have felt ashamed of NC in a long while...
by Olerand » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:46 pm
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Ifreann » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:46 pm
Draica wrote:Now judges will be going outside of their bounds and striking down laws.
by Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:46 pm
Seno Zhou Varada wrote:He couldn't have stopped all this by I don't know... using his powers to make the Pharaoh let them all go and make Ice Cream for them? No? Ok
by The balkens » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:46 pm
by Socialist Abania » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:46 pm
by Olerand » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:47 pm
Tea party separation of america wrote:First time i have felt ashamed of NC in a long while...
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
by Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:47 pm
by Nord Amour » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:47 pm
Benuty wrote:I believe you mean iron age.
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