Gay Marriage Legal in North Carolina!

[The New Sea Territory]

I've read the Bible three times, and do not overlook anything in it.

So, either you are illiterate or you are lying.

[Federation of Trelatche]

Our nation is closer to communism than ever.

Nice one, that gave me a good chuckle.

[The New Sea Territory]

God,when did we get so stupid?

...when Ken Ham began to spread ignorance to the population.

[Olerand]

How dare you question them and their work? That is downright unchristian and un-American.

Honestly if American could keep Evangelical Christianity and Anglo-Saxon capitalism to itself rather than shove it down our throats( ) my admiration of it would grow 200%.

From my experience as an American & German, American culture has a great sense of entitlement. Who are other cultures to say that America is wrong? 'Murica is the greatest country in the world!

Calling it "entitlement" is a gross understatement. No. America is exceptional. Some might say divinely so.
And therefore, it must go around the world imposing itself on others. To make them like it. Better.

[Great Kleomentia]

i'm confused as to how crossdresser = gay

Because straight guys love dressing up as women.

[Othelos]

i'm confused as to how crossdresser = gay

Because straight guys love dressing up as women.

because gay guys love dressing up as women.

[Socialist Abania]

It's Amazing you never bothered to read my arguments or look in the bible of yours for proof that those were real.

I've read the Bible three times, and do not overlook anything in it. Your arguments are not even worth looking at, I read for a minute and then I saw the circular reasoning and had to stop. It says that they did this and that, and then (they say) that automatically means that they raped and murdered kids and young girls! And yet, it says nothing of that in the Bible -- it never happens! Anyone who would raped a child would have been punished severely, I suspect, based on the moralistic laws the Israelites followed. Have you read the whole Bible through without an atheistic or revisionist viewpoint? If not, don't you think that you should? Why or why not?

I've read the Bible. In Filipino, English, and Spanish.
I've also read most of the Qu'ran, 4 of the 5 books of Torah, most of the books of Nevi'im, and the books of Ketuvim. The 24 books of Judaism.
I've also read the The God Delusion.
And I obviously don't know shit.

[Cyrisnia]

What about gay blacks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArtVj5ujN-w

[Othelos]

From my experience as an American & German, American culture has a great sense of entitlement. Who are other cultures to say that America is wrong? 'Murica is the greatest country in the world!

Calling it "entitlement" is a gross understatement. No. America is exceptional. Some might say divinely so.
And therefore, it must go around the world imposing itself on others. To make them like it. Better.

yep.

[Great Kleomentia]

Because straight guys love dressing up as women.

because gay guys love dressing up as women.

No, but guys that do dress up as women are usually gays.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Great use of bookmarks from atheist websites. It is ironic that the Bible says nothing in support of rape, nor slavery, nor child murder, nor genocide, or anything of the kind, contrary to your claim.

Not that I find this discussion to be of any relevance whatsoever as last I checked one cannot base laws or court orders in the United States based on Biblical word...God himself has genocided humanity(Noah's flood), he has killed many many people(including but not limited to little Egyptian boys), and the Bible does in fact reference slavery and how slaves must obey their masters. Also, polygamy was practiced by some of God's favorites, but that's not "Biblical marriage" mind you.

I believe the Bible hints that the people killed in the Great Flood were part-Nephillim. I believe it was Pharaoh who 'genocided' (?) the Hebrew boys because he didn't like them, and it was also Pharaoh who put the Hebrews into slavery, having them beat, and taking away their straw to make bricks (forcing them to find straw themselves, and still make the same amount). God politely had Noah go to Pharaoah and ask him to let the people go. Pharaoh denied God at least ten times. That forced God to do the punishment where all firstborn -- man and animal -- who did not have the blood of a lamb on their door -- to die.

Source: Genesis and Exodus

The Biblical laws applied to everyone. If you were a slave, they taught you how to act. If you found yourselves with slaves, they taught you what to do. They weren't condoning slavery. The Bible never encourages rebellion, which, even against slavemasters, is wrong (unless God explicitly allows it, which he did in the case of the Exodus).

[Grenartia]

Welcome to the 21st century, North Carolina.

Some future day shall look upon the current opposition to gay marriage in the same way that they will look upon pro-segregationists during the 60's.

See, I don't think so. There's a huge difference between the two. Opposing homosexuality =/= bigotry/racism. Gays are not going through anything close to what the blacks did, from slavery all the way until they were given their rights.

We weren't "given" our rights. We earned their recognition through hard work, sacrifice, and blood, sweat, and tears, just like black people.

Also, yes, LGBT people have gotten majorly shafted historically speaking.

Execution, forced castration, imprisonment, electroshock torture, etc. All the various inhumane forms of treatment LGBT people have historically faced just from the government of this country alone.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Also, polygamy was practiced by some of God's favorites, but that's not "Biblical marriage" mind you.

True. It was practiced until the practice was officially outlawed in God's laws, around the time of the New Testament.

[Tea Party Separation of America]

First time i have felt ashamed of NC in a long while...

[Cyrisnia]

Not that I find this discussion to be of any relevance whatsoever as last I checked one cannot base laws or court orders in the United States based on Biblical word...God himself has genocided humanity(Noah's flood), he has killed many many people(including but not limited to little Egyptian boys), and the Bible does in fact reference slavery and how slaves must obey their masters. Also, polygamy was practiced by some of God's favorites, but that's not "Biblical marriage" mind you.

I believe the Bible hints that the people killed in the Great Flood were part-Nephillim. I believe it was Pharaoh who 'genocided' (?) the Hebrew boys because he didn't like them, and it was also Pharaoh who put the Hebrews into slavery, having them beat, and taking away their straw to make bricks (forcing them to find straw themselves, and still make the same amount). God politely had Noah go to Pharaoah and ask him to let the people go. Pharaoh denied God at least ten times. That forced God to do the punishment where all firstborn -- man and animal -- who did not have the blood of a lamb on their door -- to die.

Source: Genesis and Exodus

The Biblical laws applied to everyone. If you were a slave, they taught you how to act. If you found yourselves with slaves, they taught you what to do. They weren't condoning slavery. The Bible never encourages rebellion, which, even against slavemasters, is wrong (unless God explicitly allows it, which he did in the case of the Exodus).

Niphillim? What?

[Nord Amour]

Welcome to the 21st century, North Carolina.

Some future day shall look upon the current opposition to gay marriage in the same way that they will look upon pro-segregationists during the 60's.

See, I don't think so. There's a huge difference between the two. Opposing homosexuality =/= bigotry/racism. Gays are not going through anything close to what the blacks did, from slavery all the way until they were given their rights.

1.) "Gays are not going through anything close to what the blacks did"... They actually are, just not in the United States.

2.) "Opposing homosexuality =/= bigotry/racism." Homophobia is, by definition, a form of bigotry. As a form of bigotry, it is a cousin of racism.

3.)"...from slavery all the way until they were given their rights." Gays have a long history of dealing with ignorance too.

[Neo Rome Republic]

Can we stop this debate and go back to what we are doing?I see NO progress,only that we are angering one another.God,when did we get so stupid?

New to NSG huh?

[Great Kleomentia]

Also, polygamy was practiced by some of God's favorites, but that's not "Biblical marriage" mind you.

True. It was practiced until the practice was officially outlawed in God's laws, around the time of the New Testament.

Who writes these God's laws anyway?

[Grenartia]

See, I don't think so. There's a huge difference between the two. Opposing homosexuality =/= bigotry/racism. Gays are not going through anything close to what the blacks did, from slavery all the way until they were given their rights.

Oh so just because gay people aren't lynched, we shouldn't have equal rights?

Except LGBT people have been, and still are being lynched, even in America.

[Socialist Abania]

See, I don't think so. There's a huge difference between the two. Opposing homosexuality =/= bigotry/racism. Gays are not going through anything close to what the blacks did, from slavery all the way until they were given their rights.

We weren't "given" our rights. We earned their recognition through hard work, sacrifice, and blood, sweat, and tears, just like black people.

Also, yes, LGBT people have gotten majorly shafted historically speaking.

Execution, forced castration, imprisonment, electroshock torture, etc. All the various inhumane forms of treatment LGBT people have historically faced just from the government of this country alone.

Still doesn't equal what they used to do

[Smoya]

First time i have felt ashamed of NC in a long while...

There is no reason to be.

[Tea Party Separation of America]

First time i have felt ashamed of NC in a long while...

There is no reason to be.

Gay marriage is a sinful abomination. And i thought my state was above it.

[The New Sea Territory]

See, I don't think so.

...aaaand that would be incorrect.

There's a huge difference between the two. Opposing homosexuality =/= bigotry/racism.

Well, certainly not racism, because LGBT people aren't a race, but it is bigoted by definition, thus, you are promoting bigotry and so is your unholy book.

Gays are not going through anything close to what the blacks did, from slavery all the way until they were given their rights.

Right. Being threatened with death for hundreds of years isn't oppression.

[Othelos]

because gay guys love dressing up as women.

No, but guys that do dress up as women are usually gays.

source?

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

Niphillim? What?

Genesis 6:1,2 - Now it came about, when men began to multiply on the face of the land, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful; and they took wives for themselves, whomever they chose.

Genesis 6:4 - The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.