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by Demo-Periculum » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:19 pm

by Othelos » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:19 pm
Olerand wrote:Othelos wrote:I think that they've lost most battles in the West, at least. Our societies are much more secular than most others. The US is just a bit of an exception.
But, most unfortunately, it is that exception that is the global superpower and that likes to propagate its model unto others. With or without permission. Economically, socially, or culturally.
What I'm basically hinting at is the American homophobic orgs' heavy involvement in the setting up of the Manif Pour Tous bullshit in 2013 in France.

by Nord Amour » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:21 pm

by Socialist Abania » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:21 pm
Nord Amour wrote:Welcome to the 21st century, North Carolina.
Some future day shall look upon the current opposition to gay marriage in the same way that they will look upon pro-segregationists during the 60's.

by Pandeeria » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:22 pm
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.
In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

by Grenartia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:23 pm

by Olerand » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:23 pm
Othelos wrote:Olerand wrote:But, most unfortunately, it is that exception that is the global superpower and that likes to propagate its model unto others. With or without permission. Economically, socially, or culturally.
What I'm basically hinting at is the American homophobic orgs' heavy involvement in the setting up of the Manif Pour Tous bullshit in 2013 in France.
yeah and there is the issue of American missionaries being so obsessed with the topic, that they are going to africa to preach against same sex marriage.
There are real issues, like starvation, desolate poverty, war, and disease in Africa, and missionaries are going there to preach keeping people who love each other apart.
) my admiration of it would grow 200%.Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

by Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:23 pm
Socialist Abania wrote:Snip

by The New Sea Territory » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:23 pm
Greater Weselton wrote:Our nation is closer to communism than ever.
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"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
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by Socialist Abania » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:23 pm

by Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:25 pm
Nord Amour wrote:Welcome to the 21st century, North Carolina.
Some future day shall look upon the current opposition to gay marriage in the same way that they will look upon pro-segregationists during the 60's.

by Othelos » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:25 pm
Olerand wrote:Othelos wrote:yeah and there is the issue of American missionaries being so obsessed with the topic, that they are going to africa to preach against same sex marriage.
There are real issues, like starvation, desolate poverty, war, and disease in Africa, and missionaries are going there to preach keeping people who love each other apart.
How dare you question them and their work? That is downright unchristian and un-American.
Honestly if American could keep Evangelical Christianity and Anglo-Saxon capitalism to itself rather than shove it down our throats() my admiration of it would grow 200%.

by The New Sea Territory » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:25 pm
| Ⓐ ☭ | Anarchist Communist | Heideggerian Marxist | Vegetarian | Bisexual | Stirnerite | Slavic/Germanic Pagan | ᚨ ᛟ |
Solntsa Roshcha --- Postmodern Poyltheist
"Christianity had brutally planted the poisoned blade in the healthy, quivering flesh of all humanity; it had goaded a cold wave
of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
-Renzo Novatore, Verso il Nulla Creatore

by Othelos » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:26 pm
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Nord Amour wrote:Welcome to the 21st century, North Carolina.
Some future day shall look upon the current opposition to gay marriage in the same way that they will look upon pro-segregationists during the 60's.
See, I don't think so. There's a huge difference between the two. Opposing homosexuality =/= bigotry/racism. Gays are not going through anything close to what the blacks did, from slavery all the way until they were given their rights.

by Cyrisnia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:26 pm
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Nord Amour wrote:Welcome to the 21st century, North Carolina.
Some future day shall look upon the current opposition to gay marriage in the same way that they will look upon pro-segregationists during the 60's.
See, I don't think so. There's a huge difference between the two. Opposing homosexuality =/= bigotry/racism. Gays are not going through anything close to what the blacks did, from slavery all the way until they were given their rights.


by Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:26 pm
The New Sea Territory wrote:Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Great use of bookmarks from atheist websites. It is ironic that the Bible says nothing in support of rape, nor slavery, nor child murder, nor genocide, or anything of the kind, contrary to your claim.
Well, of course Christians don't advertise those parts of the Bible whereimaginary asshole in the skyGod condones genocide.
But the Bible does actually support all these things. Read your Bible, you might learn something.

by Olerand » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:26 pm

Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

by Grenartia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:27 pm

by Socialist Abania » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:27 pm
Olerand wrote:Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Great use of bookmarks from atheist websites. It is ironic that the Bible says nothing in support of rape, nor slavery, nor child murder, nor genocide, or anything of the kind, contrary to your claim.
Not that I find this discussion to be of any relevance whatsoever as last I checked one cannot base laws or court orders in the United States based on Biblical word...God himself has genocided humanity(Noah's flood), he has killed many many people(including but not limited to little Egyptian boys), and the Bible does in fact reference slavery and how slaves must obey their masters. Also, polygamy was practiced by some of God's favorites, but that's not "Biblical marriage" mind you.

by Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:27 pm
Cyrisnia wrote:Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
See, I don't think so. There's a huge difference between the two. Opposing homosexuality =/= bigotry/racism. Gays are not going through anything close to what the blacks did, from slavery all the way until they were given their rights.
What about gay blacks?


by Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:27 pm
Socialist Abania wrote:Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Great use of bookmarks from atheist websites. It is ironic that the Bible says nothing in support of rape, nor slavery, nor child murder, nor genocide, or anything of the kind, contrary to your claim.
It's Amazing you never bothered to read my arguments or look in the bible of yours for proof that those were real.

by Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:28 pm
Grenartia wrote:Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Great use of bookmarks from atheist websites. It is ironic that the Bible says nothing in support of rape, nor slavery, nor child murder, nor genocide, or anything of the kind, contrary to your claim.
Speaking as a Christian who in no way endorses any of those acts, there are multiple verses of the Bible which condone slavery, and several verses of the OT in which God orders the Hebrews to commit acts of genocide.

by Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:28 pm
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:Socialist Abania wrote:It's Amazing you never bothered to read my arguments or look in the bible of yours for proof that those were real.
I've read the Bible three times, and do not overlook anything in it. Your arguments are not even worth looking at, I read for a minute and then I saw the circular reasoning and had to stop. It says that they did this and that, and then (they say) that automatically means that they raped and murdered kids and young girls! And yet, it says nothing of that in the Bible -- it never happens! Anyone who would raped a child would have been punished severely, I suspect, based on the moralistic laws the Israelites followed. Have you read the whole Bible through without an atheistic or revisionist viewpoint? If not, don't you think that you should? Why or why not?

by Othelos » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:29 pm
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