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Great Kleomentia
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Postby Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:01 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:Like there's a difference.


There defintily is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic
Not seeing it.
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Postby Smoya » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:01 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:More states are falling to this. Our great country is no longer what it used to be. :( The Domino Theory appears to be correct. People during the Red Scare would have never imagined this. Our nation is closer to communism than ever.

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NEO Rome Republic wrote:Maybe in the fantasy you reside in, but in reality, nothing like that will happen. But thanks for the amusement.

Its not a fantasy, its a reality, and your going to lose, so get ready.

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Postby Othelos » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:01 pm

Christainville wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Maybe in the fantasy you reside in, but in reality, nothing like that will happen. But thanks for the amusement.

Its not a fantasy, its a reality, and your going to lose, so get ready.

Again, I would think that conservatives would support preserving the institution of marriage.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:01 pm

Christainville wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Maybe in the fantasy you reside in, but in reality, nothing like that will happen. But thanks for the amusement.

Its not a fantasy, its a reality, and your going to lose, so get ready.

You are going against the United States Constitution, meaning you are unpatriotic, hate freedom and America. You must be a communist.

/sarcasm
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Postby Socialist Abania » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:02 pm

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:More states are falling to this. Our great country is no longer what it used to be. :( The Domino Theory appears to be correct. People during the Red Scare would have never imagined this. Our nation is closer to communism than ever.

....

Oh shut up...



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Postby Burleson » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:02 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
Burleson wrote:Great, another state denied its 10th amendment rights. Last time I checked, you can't force people to have something that the majority of them don't want in a Democracy.

Last time I checked, you couldn't deny people of their 14th amendment rights.

Gay marriage is not a 14th amendment right.
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:02 pm

Christainville wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Maybe in the fantasy you reside in, but in reality, nothing like that will happen. But thanks for the amusement.

Its not a fantasy, its a reality, and your going to lose, so get ready.


You're already embarrassing yourself enough,

Pls stahp nao.
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Postby Liberal PC Brigade » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:02 pm

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Liberal PC Brigade wrote:
The United States is a Republic, not a Democracy.

Like there's a difference.


There is.
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Postby Nerotysia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:02 pm

Krasny-Volny wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:I've given you the reasoning. If you've missed it all you had to do was say so.

Majority rule is susceptible to oppression of minorities. This is a bad thing, yes? Surely you do not want minorities oppressed.


Again, give me some proof. Why is this so hard?

Ah, finally! You've articulated something! Was that so hard?

Slavery, in the American south before the Civil War. A majority of people were in favor of slavery, which is what led to the war in the first place.

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Postby Socialist Abania » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:03 pm

Burleson wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Last time I checked, you couldn't deny people of their 14th amendment rights.

Gay marriage is not a 14th amendment right.

Marriage is no right either.
I don't see it the constitution.

In 2004, a lot of controversy began to swirl around the topic of marriage as homosexual marriage entered the news once again. In 1999, the Vermont Supreme Court ordered that the state must make accommodations for gay unions, bringing the issue into the public eye. Vermont created civil unions as a result. In 2004, the Massachusetts Supreme Court went a step further, and ruled that the state must accommodate not just an institution equal to marriage, as civil union was designed to be, but that gay marriage itself must be offered in the state. Subsequently, mayors in New York and California began to offer gay marriage in their towns and cities, citing civil rights concerns. Those opposed to gay marriage began to urge that an amendment to the Constitution be created to define marriage as being between a man and a woman only. Opponents of the amendment pointed to the failed Prohibition Amendment as a reason why such social issues should stay out of the Constitution. In the absence of any such amendment, however, marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution at any point. More information is available on the Marriage Topic Page.
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Postby Burleson » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:03 pm

Socialist Abania wrote:
Burleson wrote:Great, another state denied its 10th amendment rights. Last time I checked, you can't force people to have something that the majority of them don't want in a Democracy.

Over 50% of the population is in favor of LGBT rights.

Nationally yes, but not in North Carolina. Just in case you need a geography lesson, North Carolina is in the South.
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Postby Pandeeria » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:03 pm

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
There defintily is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic
Not seeing it.


A republic is a representative democracy.

Standard democracy is direct democracy, which doesn't work for a variety of reasons.
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In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Christainville » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:03 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Christainville wrote:I live in the state, two times the people voted on this, our state leaders did it once. It was passed and we made up our own mind on how we wanted this to be handled. At all times in this state the majority of people you talked to said they were against it. Yet, one court knocks down our law. They can knock down a law, but they will never knock us down. They can never change how we feel and change our views on things. Call us haters, call us homophobic, even call us un American. Because this fight isn't over. We will fight, and fight to have our views heard and our state ran the way we want it. No law will stop us, nothing will stop us. We chose our view and that was final. Enough of one person changing the view of the mass, but we will fight back. A few gays can marry but it will never be accepted by the mass public, no matter what law they pass. Our views or just that our own, and this fight isn't over.

You don't get to vote away people's rights.

I think we do, its called referendum, everyone votes our rights away, we can votes there's away. Its a vote, the people voted, and we will make dang sure the people's vote is upheld.

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Postby Rikatan » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:03 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:I have no proof.

In other words, what you're saying is not correct. No one will believe you if the reasoning behind your belief is 'I randomly thought I'd like to tell people that being themselves is wrong'.

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Postby Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:03 pm

Pandeeria wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic
Not seeing it.


A republic is a representative democracy.

But it is a democracy nontheless.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:03 pm

Burleson wrote:
Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:Last time I checked, you couldn't deny people of their 14th amendment rights.

Gay marriage is not a 14th amendment right.

So tell me, are gays not considered citizens then?
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Postby Socialist Abania » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:04 pm

Burleson wrote:
Socialist Abania wrote:Over 50% of the population is in favor of LGBT rights.

Nationally yes, but not in North Carolina. Just in case you need a geography lesson, North Carolina is in the South.

...
So then South Carolina is North and North Korea is South Korea.
I see no reason to take a geography lesson if I really have to point out your saying
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Postby Burleson » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:04 pm

Socialist Abania wrote:
Burleson wrote:Gay marriage is not a 14th amendment right.

Marriage is no right either.
I don't see it the constitution.

In 2004, a lot of controversy began to swirl around the topic of marriage as homosexual marriage entered the news once again. In 1999, the Vermont Supreme Court ordered that the state must make accommodations for gay unions, bringing the issue into the public eye. Vermont created civil unions as a result. In 2004, the Massachusetts Supreme Court went a step further, and ruled that the state must accommodate not just an institution equal to marriage, as civil union was designed to be, but that gay marriage itself must be offered in the state. Subsequently, mayors in New York and California began to offer gay marriage in their towns and cities, citing civil rights concerns. Those opposed to gay marriage began to urge that an amendment to the Constitution be created to define marriage as being between a man and a woman only. Opponents of the amendment pointed to the failed Prohibition Amendment as a reason why such social issues should stay out of the Constitution. In the absence of any such amendment, however, marriage is not mentioned in the Constitution at any point. More information is available on the Marriage Topic Page.

Marriage shouldn't even be regulated by the state seeing as it's a religious institution. You can't have both separation of Church and state and government control of a religious institution.
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Postby Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:04 pm

Great Kleomentia wrote:
Pandeeria wrote:
A republic is a representative democracy.

But it is a democracy nontheless.

It's the other way around. We are a Republic with democratic elements.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:04 pm

Smoya wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:More states are falling to this. Our great country is no longer what it used to be. :( The Domino Theory appears to be correct. People during the Red Scare would have never imagined this. Our nation is closer to communism than ever.

God accepts people who for who they are as long as they live a good life.


I don't know which god you worship, but my God and his servants say that being 'gay' is a sin, and that salvation cannot be attained no matter how hard you work to get it. You must have faith in Christ to be saved, and that alone will save you. Nothing else.

Ephesians 2:8,9 - For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not by works, so that no one can boast.

That's what the Bible says, at least.
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Postby Othelos » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:04 pm

Burleson wrote:
Socialist Abania wrote:Over 50% of the population is in favor of LGBT rights.

Nationally yes, but not in North Carolina. Just in case you need a geography lesson, North Carolina is in the South.

It's so sad that people can't use their location to discriminate against others. Like I'm literally crying.
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Postby Krasny-Volny » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:05 pm

Nerotysia wrote:
Krasny-Volny wrote:
Again, give me some proof. Why is this so hard?

Ah, finally! You've articulated something! Was that so hard?

Slavery, in the American south before the Civil War. A majority of people were in favor of slavery, which is what led to the war in the first place.


Then it's the people that have a problem, not the basic fundamental of democracy.
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Postby Nerotysia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:05 pm

Christainville wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:You don't get to vote away people's rights.

I think we do, its called referendum, everyone votes our rights away, we can votes there's away. Its a vote, the people voted, and we will make dang sure the people's vote is upheld.

Really? Someone voted your rights away? When? How? Who?

And no referendum do not exist to oppress minorities.

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Postby Great Kleomentia » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:05 pm

Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic wrote:
Great Kleomentia wrote:But it is a democracy nontheless.

It's the other way around. We are a Republic with democratic elements.

The very definition of a Republic is that the ruler is democratically elected.
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