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Postby Arlenton » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:50 am

I hope by unify it means have the south absorb the North.

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Postby Connori Pilgrims » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:57 am

Re: Unification, I think the South Koreans would be off their rockers to want it, if only because it risks collapsing their economy. Unification means 25 or so million extra Koreans who are on average 20 times poorer than the average South Korean joining. The resultant wage depression as well as the necessary infrastructure upgrading to accommodate them will bankrupt the country. Hell it could well bankrupt China if they had to be the ones to manage North Korea.

So really, the only one who would want Unification is the North (because it gives them access to South Korean capital and resources). And as much as their cray cray government wants to believe it, they're in no position to force the issue.
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Tue Oct 07, 2014 8:59 am

If there's any unification next year, it'll be the South absorbing the North.

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Postby Nortrom » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:17 am

Same shit every year
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Postby Ironbarrow » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:20 am

Maybe they will harness the energy of the recently claimed sun and smite the Godless South Koreans. How dare they not support the God of true Korea,fat communist blob Kim of the Sun!
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Postby Gigaverse » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:24 am

Grenartia wrote:Seems like some awfully contradictory moves on NK's part. Stepping up its aggressive rhetoric, as well as its military capabilities, while also sending diplomats to speak to SK's Unification Ministry, among other things? Something is going on, but short of some sort of Madman Strategy, I have no clue what.

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Postby Angleter » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:31 am

Grenartia wrote:Seems like some awfully contradictory moves on NK's part. Stepping up its aggressive rhetoric, as well as its military capabilities, while also sending diplomats to speak to SK's Unification Ministry, among other things? Something is going on, but short of some sort of Madman Strategy, I have no clue what.


It may be that not everyone, or every faction, in the North Korean regime is on the same page.
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Postby Mefpan » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:31 am

Can North Korean armies even cross the South Korean border before Chinese tanks arrive in Pyongyang to install a new, sane government coupled with the not-so-friendly abolishing of the old one?
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:33 am

Organized States wrote:Sources in the ROK Defense Ministry have stated that the North Korean Military has a goal of reuniting the Koreas by or in 2015. This comes after the North Korean and South Korean Navies exchanged fire.

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SEOUL, Oct. 7 (Yonhap) -- With a goal to achieve national reunification in 2015, North Korea has geared up for all-out wars by conducting tactical trainings and boosting its attack capabilities, Seoul's defense ministry said Tuesday.

"After declaring 2015 the year of completing unification, North Korea has been prepared for full-scale wars," the ministry said in a report presented to the National Assembly for an annual audit of state agencies.

The communist country has ratcheted up tensions on the Korean Peninsula by firing off a series of rockets this year, though it has made peace offensives toward the South recently. Last week, Pyongyang sent key aides to its leader Kim Jong-un to the western port city of Incheon and sat down for talks with Seoul's high-ranking officials to agree upon holding another high-level inter-Korean meeting later this month or early November.

"For that goal, the North doubled the number (of servicemembers) involved in its summer trainings compared to previous years. It has also boosted its attack capabilities in a consistent manner," the ministry noted.

North Korea also added 300 units of multiple rocket launchers over the past two years to bring the total number to some 5,100, according to the Seoul ministry.

The rockets with 240-millimeter caliber can fly some 60 kilometers to reach the capital city of South Korea, and the 300mm ones have a range of 200 kilometers to pose threats to the military headquarters in central South Korea.

This year alone, Pyongyang launched rockets 19 times, with the latest one in early September, firing a total of 111 projectiles.

In a move to counter such threats, the Seoul government devised "a timetable" to launch precise strikes against the origin of provocations on the ground, at sea and in the air but also forces supporting it and its commanders.

"South Korea has maintained a firm readiness against North Korea's limited provocations and any attempts to wage full-scale wars," the ministry said. "We are trying to boost security posture in capital areas to deter diverse and novel types of threats by the enemy."

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Apologies about the Source, I'll find a better one later hopefully.

Anyways, this is rather interesting. North Korea as many of us know (*looks at Washington Resistance Army, the resident North Korea analyst on NSG*) is on a military buildup, primarily to modernize their 1950s and 60s vintage military. However, this comments from the ROK are certainly disturbing, as I would prefer not to see the Korean Peninsula go up.

Anyways, what do you think NSG? Is Korean War round 2 imminent? Is 2015 a year for peaceful integration? Is North Korea off its rocker (as usual)?

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What the fuck happened to Joseon.

Also, what the fuck generally. ROK and DPRK began talks like three days ago.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Tue Oct 07, 2014 9:53 am

Oh please don't let this be another attempt at "ein frischer, fröhlicher Krieg".
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Postby Muzztopia » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:00 am

while it is a possibility it highly un likely. Mostly because the north can not rely on Chinese backing in the conflict in a war they know would be national suicide.

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Postby Mefpan » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:01 am

European Socialist Republic wrote:Oh please don't let this be another attempt at "ein frischer, fröhlicher Krieg".

Oh please, they'll be home by Dear Leader's Present Day, I'm sure of it.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:48 am

Xsyne wrote:Christ people are gullible as shit.


What do you mean?

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Postby Grenartia » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:00 am

Gigaverse wrote:
Grenartia wrote:Seems like some awfully contradictory moves on NK's part. Stepping up its aggressive rhetoric, as well as its military capabilities, while also sending diplomats to speak to SK's Unification Ministry, among other things? Something is going on, but short of some sort of Madman Strategy, I have no clue what.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:07 am

Grenartia wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:One word: Ingsoc.


I never got the chance to read 1984.

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Postby Gezi Park » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:14 am

About time. I think they can find some common ground, nobody has to force its system into other. I like both countries.
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:40 am

The Rich Port wrote:
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What do you mean?

It's prolly fake
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Postby Planita » Tue Oct 07, 2014 11:47 am

I found this
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Postby Des-Bal » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:32 pm

Arumdaum wrote:It's prolly fake


That's interesting because it's got substantially more proof behind it than most news stories that people implicitly trust. Not only is this a thing it's kind of a big fucking deal right now.
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Postby Cyrisnia » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:44 pm

Dalcaria wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:Someone has been eating KFC.

"In recent news, BBC has learned from emailed reports by KFC executives that 75% of the company is missing. This includes properties, farms, corporate buildings, and employees. Where have they gone mysteriously gone? BBC has learned from an inside source that it has almost been confirmed that it has all made it's way into Kim Jong-Un's belly. How the man fit it in there is a concept science may never be able to answer, but it's suspected the North Korean dictators appetite will only grow. In the next 5-8 months, he will likely eat Madagascar. In a year to a year and a half, he will have likely swallowed most of East Asia and Eurasia. In 2-5 years, Kim Jong Un will be completing a hearty meal of the Andromeda galaxy. How do we stop this mad beast? We don't. This is how the world ends. This is the Deranged Chicken man for BBC news."

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Postby UBS » Tue Oct 07, 2014 12:48 pm

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North Korean leader in hospital as his feet fail to take the strain of his ever-increasing weight, newspaper claims

Kim Jong-un, the North Korean dictator, has become so fat while in office that his ankles have fractured under his own weight, it was reported on Tuesday.

The 31-year-old, who has looked increasingly portly since taking power, had to undergo a hospital operation after putting too much strain on his ankles during a gruelling round of official engagements.

The treatment has also been linked to his unexpected failure to attend a recent session of the Supreme People's Assembly, according to a Pyongyang source who spoke to the Chosun Ilbo newspaper in neighbouring South Korea.

Unlike other members of North Korea's political elite, for whom a sudden absence from public life often means they have been killed or imprisoned, in Kim Jong-un's case it is said to be down to Elvis-style weight gain as a result of his unhealthy diet.


Source: the Telegraph http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... nkles.html

Although this is a reference to the 'Pyongyang Under Lockdown' Thread, I thought it'd be fun to share this. So anyways, what are your thoughts on this, NSG?

Poor guy :( he only eats so much to cope with the loss of his mother

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Postby Greater Weselton » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:30 pm

I would rather see Korea unified under South Korea's rule.
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Postby Rio Cana » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:40 pm

No. They had a SK. professor who said that NK. wants to survive has a separate state while South Korea is its own separate state. In other words, two states united but politically separate. Seems like a confederation. They say SK. plan is to absorb NK. just like how West Germany absorbed East Germany.
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Postby Rio Cana » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:42 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:One word: Ingsoc.


I never got the chance to read 1984.


The general idea is something like in this video.
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