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Postby Graknopia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:57 pm

North Korea is just... No.

They have concentration camps, little running water besides int eh capital. Electricity is scarce and common blackouts occur in the capital.
They have a nuclear program and have threatened south Korea/USA several times, and tried acting muscles by firing artillery into the sea. His propaganda makes him seem like a god, and if you speak out you get to a concentration camp. No wonder why he gets 100 percent of a vote and has a parliament that sits to introduce more shittier laws once a year. Totally isn't rigged.
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Postby Inzijard » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:58 pm

I would rather not have to source the mountain of evidence to prove that Kim is fucked up, North Korea is fucked up, and there is no Santa Claus. Frankly it's disgusting to look at, ad nauseam.
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Postby Sediczja » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:58 pm

Aurulie wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:If by "help", you mean "oppress them and starve them", then yes.

He needs a unified population, he is getting rid of unpatriotic people. He may seem flawed but he is trying.

Putting millions of people in camps =/= trying to unify the population.
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Postby Graknopia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:59 pm

Aurulie wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:If by "help", you mean "oppress them and starve them", then yes.

He needs a unified population, he is getting rid of unpatriotic people. He may seem flawed but he is trying.

When he came to power if he decided to lift human rights and begin to act kinder I guarantee North Korea would have better relations with China/Less sanctions enabling him to give more food. If he wants to help how about he give out some of his swiss cheese?
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Postby Aurulie » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:59 pm

Sediczja wrote:
Aurulie wrote:He needs a unified population, he is getting rid of unpatriotic people. He may seem flawed but he is trying.

Putting millions of people in camps =/= trying to unify the population.

Again, he is trying.

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Postby Graknopia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:00 pm

Inzijard wrote:I would rather not have to source the mountain of evidence to prove that Kim is fucked up, North Korea is fucked up, and there is no Santa Claus. Frankly it's disgusting to look at, ad nauseam.

But Santa Clause is real :(
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:01 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Sediczja wrote:Putting millions of people in camps =/= trying to unify the population.

Again, he is trying.


and you base this on... what?
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:01 pm

Aurulie wrote:
Sediczja wrote:Putting millions of people in camps =/= trying to unify the population.

Again, he is trying.

No, he's not. His goal is not to unify the population. His goal is to control them.

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Postby Nord Amour » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:01 pm

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Nord Amour wrote:It's becoming increasingly clear that Kim Jong-un does not have the "iron fist" grip over the region that his father had. I believe that some form of military coup or internal struggle is entirely possible.


He has a ham fist full of bacon and chocolate and gout. :rofl:


...And he screams at the apparent incompetence of his military advisers, spewing spit and bacon over their coats...

Inzijard wrote:I would rather not have to source the mountain of evidence to prove that Kim is fucked up, North Korea is fucked up, and there is no Santa Claus. Frankly it's disgusting to look at, ad nauseam.


It really is disgusting. I wish that the international community would do more to help the starving and poverty-stricken people that have to live under such a moron as Kim Jong-un.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:01 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Aurulie wrote:Again, he is trying.


and you base this on... what?

North Korean propaganda, I guess.

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Postby Inzijard » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:02 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SllAhbkMCiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRTjHJ93UYg

For anyone interested in the vlogbrothers. Just a scrape on the surface, and that's bad enough.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:15 pm

Nord Amour wrote:It's becoming increasingly clear that Kim Jong-un does not have the "iron fist" grip over the region that his father had. I believe that some form of military coup or internal struggle is entirely possible.

Kim Jong-il didn't have full control until a few years after he took power.
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Postby Uelvan » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:28 pm

Aurulie wrote:
The Orson Empire wrote:If by "help", you mean "oppress them and starve them", then yes.

He needs a unified population, he is getting rid of unpatriotic people. He may seem flawed but he is trying.


Intent to help doesn't change the fact that he's doing terrible things. Pol Pot was certainly trying to help his country in his twisted way, but that doesn't mean that he was a good man who helped Cambodia.
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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:33 pm

Inzijard wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SllAhbkMCiY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRTjHJ93UYg

For anyone interested in the vlogbrothers. Just a scrape on the surface, and that's bad enough.

The vlogbrothers do a pretty poor job of explaining North Korea.

The whole "blabla, explained" videos generally go against John Green's principle that "truth resists simplicity." You can't suddenly be an expert on a situation after reading a non-academic book or two or reading a few news articles. Explaining North Korea is just the way it is because "omg north korea crazy!!" is a piss poor explanation of things, and one that North Korea experts (which I do not at all claim to be) don't take at all seriously.

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- uses the word "crazy" as a reason for everything that ever happens in nk
- uses the word "crazy" in every other sentence
- says nk could invade sk anytime
- assumes nk is chinese puppet
- uses phrases such as "if nk invaded we would totally wipe them off map/turn them into glass/create a crater/other casual statement of genocide
- says things like "OMG NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT NORTH KOREA THEY COULD TOTALLY DO ANYTHING WE WOULDN'T KNOW SO CRAZY SO UNPREDICTABLE"
- says "north korea is going to bomb us the world is gonna end ww3 omg"
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Postby Vetalia » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:07 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgfbafx137A

First thing that comes to mind.
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Postby Anglo-California » Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:52 pm

Must be all of the peasants he ate. Oppressed people really put on the calories.
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Postby Deoxyribonucleic Acids » Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:54 pm

Kimmy's been stealing the damn bread again from the starving children!

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:57 pm

Someone has been eating KFC.

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Postby Upper America » Sun Oct 05, 2014 5:00 pm

Kim Jong Un: Dammit, I broke my ankles with my own weight! But this kimchi that was meant for the regular citizens is so good...

Every other North Korean: I wish I broke my ankles like that. They just break when the guards push me down the stairs.
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Postby NERVUN » Sun Oct 05, 2014 8:34 pm

Gigaverse wrote:Conspiracy theory: This is like the Elvis Presley case; but instead of putting down the door, they're putting down the entirety of Pyongyang.

= These North Gooks are smart.

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Postby Toronina » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:48 pm

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Yes.

He's the newest Stalin. The man deserves a bit of pain.


We differ in opinion, then. I may be a monarchist and anti-democratist but I'd never wish harm on any democratist. I find it outright repulsive that those who disapprove of K-JU's regime (however justifiably so) wish him harm. He is, after all, a human being.

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Postby Ganos Lao » Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:53 pm

While North Koreans starve and languish in the abject poverty of their leadership's horrid ideology, Bonnie Prince Kimmie's apparently having to contend with the side effects of unrestricted gorging on the ill gotten gains of his family.

But as we know from experience, people will go as far as to contend he's fighting for worker's rights and global socialism.

Upper America wrote:Kim Jong Un: Dammit, I broke my ankles with my own weight! But this kimchi that was meant for the regular citizens is so good...

Every other North Korean: I wish I broke my ankles like that. They just break when the guards push me down the stairs.


:rofl:

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And take money away from engorging the pockets of military fatcats? I think not! A few less dollars in the budget is a few more chances of a slipup the American imperialists and their South Korean lackeys can exploit!



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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:09 am

Just roast the man and feed the rest of the country.
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Postby Ganos Lao » Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:13 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Just roast the man and feed the rest of the country.


You could feed a couple Ethiopian villages with that, I'd wager.



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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:13 am

Ganos Lao wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Just roast the man and feed the rest of the country.


You could feed a couple Ethiopian villages with that, I'd wager.


More than likely.
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